Multiple Version Songs (3): Both versions by male playback singers – Different Moods

January 29, 2013

Guest article by Ashok M Vaishnav

(In his last post Mr Ashok Vaishnav covered a sub-category of multiple version songs in which the two versions are sung, generally, by the same male playback singer, one version being happy, and the other sad. At times, the two versions are not so clearly differentiated – the variation in moods is more subtle than simple happy-sad division. You can trust Mr Vaishnav to peel the layers of meaning – in the third part of his mega series he makes a superfine analysis of this sub-sub category of multiple version songs. – AK)

Multiple version songsThe most frequent and popular use of hybrid songs in the same film is to depict a happy and a sad mood situation. We have covered a set of songs rendered by all male singers in our last episode. Today we will take a slightly different journey through a specific sub-category of multiple version songs in Hindi Films – all versions rendered by male playback singer(s) – Different Moods.

A. Two different shades of the same mood

This is a rather interesting use of different versions – to depict different shades of the same mood.

1. Aa teri tasveer bana lun by Talat Mahmood from  Nadaan (1951), lyrics PL Santoshi, music Chic Chocolate

 

This song has another version, for which the credit of composition is given to C Ramchandra in this video clip. Here is an interesting background information provided by the uploader of the video clip – “This song was made by C. Ramchandra’s assistant, a man named ‘Chic Chocolate’ who was C. Ramchandra’s full time assistant till early 50s. Notice the C. Ramchandra style in it”.   Dustedoff has written quite an interesting article on Chic Chocolate here.

 

2.  Kaun aya mere man ke dware by Manna Dey from Dekh Kabira Roya (1957), lyrics Rajendra Krishna, music Madan Mohan

Here is a song which has been subject of a good deal of ‘trivia’ discussion at several forums. Madan Mohan is said to have ‘bribed’ Manna Dey through a self-cooked dinner for this song.

In the first version, the male protagonist (Anoop Kumar) literally waits for his ‘someone’ to re-arrive at the office, where he eagerly keeps on pacing the arrival. The second version is what is available on records, where the song is now rendered for another lady. The lyrics and subtle variations in the delivery of the lyrics match the nuances of the varying situations in the two settings.  Enjoy the two versions in this composite video.

3. Mere mehboob qayamat hogi by Kishore Kumar from Mr. X In Bombay (1964), lyrics Anand Baxi, music Laxmikant Pyarelal

Both are pensive songs, but rhythms and lyrics are different, as different are the moods and contexts of the two versions.  In the first version, only Kumkum is visible, the ‘invisible’ Kishore Kumar (one of the inspirations for Mr India, the other being Brahmchari?) sings to her.  In the second version, only Kishore Kumar – now visible – is in the frame, ambling down the landmarks of Bombay, forlorn, singing this song.

4. Dil tham chale hum by Mohammad Rafi from Love In Simla (1960), lyrics Rajendra Krishna, music Iqbal Quershi 

The video clip has titled this as 2nd version, but obviously, this is the way song comes first in the film, where the hero is happily trudging forward to realise the title of the film.

 

And we have a small clip with which the film happily ends with the same song, with a difference in the ‘dil’ that our hero holds with himself in the two situations.

5. Aane se uske aaye bahar by Mohammad Rafi from Jeene Ki Raah (1969), lyrics Anand Baxi, music Laxmiknat Pyarelal 

This song is on the outer limit of the normal time line scope of this blog, but since the film is said to have Telugu version too, the song may also have a Telugu version.  Therefore, I have included it here, hoping that some knowledgeable reader introduces us to that version.   One can ‘listen’ to different moods – carefree enjoyment in the first version, whereas a pleading, counseling, with a touch of seriousness in the tone in the second. The two versions have different lyrics to suit the respective moods. 

B. RK- SJ signature use of different versions of the title song

RK – SJ combination have developed this very unique style, wherein the title song is tweaked – sometimes by using a very small piece in a different style, sometimes a full song in a different style – for ending of the film. Here is an example of its all-male different version:

6. Jis desh mein Ganaga baheti hai  by Mukesh from JDGBH (1960), lyrics Shailendra, music Shanker Jaikishan 

The more popular version on records is Hothon pe sachchai raheti hai, jahan dil mein safai raheti hai….jis desh mein Ganga baheti hai.

 

Here is a different version, having different rhythm and scale of the song, filmed towards the climax sequence of the film:

C. More than two versions of the same song

7. Tum bin jaun kahan from Pyar Ka Mausam (1969), lyrics Majrooh Sultanpuri, music R D Burman

This is one melody, three versions for three different situations and moods.  In the composite link below, the first version by Rafi is a soft romantic song lip-synched by Shashi Kapoor, strumming the mandolin  in the garden, as Asha Parekh watches him from her window, and gingerly approaches towards him.  The middle part is by Kishore Kumar, lip-synched by Bharat Bhushan.  KK for Bharat Bhushan, especially the yodelling has come in for a good deal of discussion in the last post. The last version is again by Rafi – this one is now a party song by Shashi Kapoor on the piano.  This is a clichéd setting for the hero to pour out his (misconceived) grievances against the lady, until the things are sorted out in the climax.

 

And, as is the wont of Bengali music directors, it has a Bengali version as well, by Kishore Kumar, Ek din pakhi ude: 

D. A solo and a chorus version

I have one of my all-time emotion-stirring songs in the category here:

8. Watan ki raah mein watan ke naujawaan shaheed ho from Shaheed (1948), lyrics Raja Mehdi Ali Khan, music Ghulam Haider

The first, a happy version is a rousing patriotic chorus song led by Mohmmad Rafi and Khan Mastana.

 

And its extremely sad version, the second version is a solo by Mohammad Rafi where the whole nation wept over the death of a young, brave martyr along with the beloved one of that youth in a stream of silent tears. The same feeling of loss, but having different emotional reasons.   As the film ends with this heart wrenching song, Ram Prasad ‘Bismil’s iconic couplet Shaheedon ki chitaaon par lagenge har baras mele, watan par marne walon ka yahi baqi nishan hoga comes in voice over.

 

E. A classic ‘cover version’

9. Chal ud ja re panchhi by Mohammad Rafi from Bhabhi (1957), lyrics  Rajendra Krishna, music Chitragupta

This songs has a happy and a sad version, both by Rafi. 

 

And here is this cover version rendered by Talat Mahamood, which  remains a classic example of a version song as understood in the West. However, as commented by Subodh Agrawal earlier, the motivation for this particular song is not conclusively established.

 

We had quite a lively discussion in the previous category.  Obviously, since the entire road map is not known, it is quite likely that some of the songs that I have planned to include in the subsequent posts would appear in the ‘comments’.   However, I have generally retained/added them in my final presentation so as to maintain the records in order, on the same page.

Looking forward to some more exercise to the grey cells to enrich this series. Au Revoir,  Shabba Khair .

{ 42 comments… read them below or add one }

1 n.venkataraman January 30, 2013 at 10:03 pm

Ashok Vaishnavji,
Continuation of your journey, from where you had left last time, only reveals your boundless energy and penchant for unearthing subtle variations in this category.
I too joined your journey yesterday, before I strayed off. You had provided two diversions (welcome), one on Chic Chocolate and the other on Hindi film trivia, both by Dusted Off. Both were informative and made good reading. Thanks to you and Dusted Off.
All the 5 pairs of songs presented under the category ‘Songs on the same mood’, were good. Was both versions of the song #1 were included in the film, or only the one with video clipping was there in the film? Song #4 was also good and was not aware of the second version. Regarding the other 3 songs I have mentioned earlier and once again I express my regrets for goofing up. I can understand the dampening effect after such tireless effort. This time I will refrain from jumping the queue.
You have added four more sub categories/ songs. If my memory serves me right, in the song ‘O basanti pawan pagal’ strains of the BGM from Awara were used. Need to check. Whatever be the motivation of Talat Mahmood, his rendition of Md.Rafi’s song (#9) was quite good.
The journey is turning to be exciting and more roads to be covered, hope to follow you in your footsteps.
Thank you once again.

2 ASHOK M VAISHNAV January 31, 2013 at 12:42 pm

@N. Venkatraman
Neither you nor any other active reader of SoY is ‘jumping the queue’, simply because this such a vast ocean that one may not be able to find all gems by diving in single-handedly.

So help and guidance from all quarters is more than welcome.

3 jignesh kotadia January 31, 2013 at 9:19 pm

Dear Ashok vaishnavji….. Highly applaudable series. Cheers 4 these incessant efforts of representing our hidden treasure with interesting themes. I believe lucky myself 4 being joined with u people on SoY pages.

4 jignesh kotadia January 31, 2013 at 9:32 pm

and yes,, u said right,, one cant find out all gems from the vast ocean of melody.,, a single birth is not enough to listen all gems produced betwn 1933-75. But we r with u in this ‘Mission Melody’ to discover gems as possible as…

5 Naresh P. Mankad February 4, 2013 at 6:20 pm

The series has been very interesting. It has been satisfying, yet leaving us yearning for more. This sort of result can be achieved only by great effort combined with a deep interest in old Hindi film songs. If one of the two was missing, the result would not be so impressive. Well done, we’ll look forward to many more such ideas from Shri Ashok Vaishnav.

6 ASHOK M VAISHNAV February 5, 2013 at 10:36 pm

Thanks Jignesh Koatadia and Naresh Mankad:

The journey does have challenges and corresponding joy. The joy gets compounded with the knowledge that there are many to share, add value and relish the fruits.

7 Kuldeep Chauhan February 8, 2013 at 5:58 am

Dear Vaishnavji,

Aapka dil se abhinandan karna chahunga for such a good collection of duo version of songs. I am also an ardent fan of Indian music and more so of film sangeet. I came to know about this page through Arunkumar Deshmukji’s link on Facebook. I may have missed certain portion or a series of your article of double version. I would like to add some more songs to the collection, just in case you have not mentioned of the songs that I have mentioned below.

Panchamda (R.D. Burman) has composed a lovely song for the film – Mehbooba. The song – Mere Naina Sawaan Bhaadon composed in the notes of Shivranjani was sung by Lataji (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3pmenmUtaQ) in its pure hindustani classical form, the same song is picturised on Rajesh Khanna also, for which Panchamda used Kishoreda’s voice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enyjSSHdZVA). The difference in both the versions are very clear, Lata an ardent exponent of classical music sang the song in it’s hindustani classical version with the alaap of Shivranjani. Kishoreda a natural singer, was given the modern version of the song. Both the versions are equally good. Kudos to Panchamda, Lataji and Kishore Kumar.

Later on Laxmikant Pyarelal did a great job of du0 version in Ek Duje ke Liye. The song Tere Mere Beech main, kaisa hai yeh bandhan is picturised on Rati Agnihotri and sung by Lataji (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUAFuOWCpmw), the same song in its sad version picturised on Kamal Hasaan is sung by S P Balasubramaniam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzTLahpOhNE). The songs have different mood, but are composed well and the arranger (Pyarelalji) brought out the mood very well with the different instruments in the antaras. The male version has an excellent use of mouth organ. Interestingly the common factor is the Raaga of the song, again Shivranjani.

More modern version of Duo songs – Kal Ho na Ho – the title song beautifully rendered by Sonu Nigam and my compliments to the trio Shankar Ehsaan and Loy for the subtle music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83m_ihvWjsQ). The other version, a sad version, a full blown punjabi style rendered by Richa Sharma, Alka Yagnik and Sonu Nigam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Y48_5u8Tc). The difference is so very pronounced in the mood, and it is due to the use of words (lyrics-Javed Akhthar) and the lovely theme tune and the instruments.

Further down the years, more recently, the film Vicky Donor has the song Paani da rang sung by the lead actor and hero Ayushmaan Khuraana (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiItLWWxgOI) and the same song in it’s more poignant form by a relatively new singer Sukanya Purkaayastha speaks of a different mood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPaj4UzZqZI). both the songs have different scale. The song has been created by Ayushamaan Khuraana, Rochak Kohli and the music director duo Abhishek-Akshay. Do listen to both the versions and see the difference.

Well the list can go on. I really liked the topic. Thanks for picking up the subject. I have given the links for the songs to be seen, courtesy You Tube. Just copy the link in the browser and watch the songs to get the taste of the music
I may come sometime later with a different topic. Hit songs and their source of origin. Some day will sit down and prepare the article for everyone. Good Night, Shubh Ratri, Shabba Khair from Kuldeep Chauhan (Casablanca, Morocco)

8 ASHOK M VAISHNAV February 11, 2013 at 1:40 pm

@Kuldeep Chauhan
Thanks for adding to the rich treasure of this seires of Multiple Version Songs from the contemporary period of HFM. Diiferent forms of such types songs have added to the richness of HFM. You may also like to visit an aerlier post – Twin songs: A front runner and a laggard – on SoY, which has a very detailed and varied discussions on this specific category.

9 ASHOK M VAISHNAV February 11, 2013 at 1:49 pm

I share the clips from YT relating to a Mohammad Rafi song, composed by Avinash Vyas, for Chakradhari (1954) Aaj Achanak Ruthke Chale Gaye – the first clip, http://youtu.be/P2pRzl0Uep0, is an audio and mentions version 1 its title, wher as the second clip is a full video of the song – http://youtu.be/GIxbKQmKxSA.

The song is quite new to me, so I cannot really vouch for the songs to be truly a version song.

Nonetheless, I have presented these for bringing the records on same page.

10 AK February 11, 2013 at 7:15 pm

Ashokji,
To me the two ‘said’ versions sound identical. My hunch is this may be just one song. Unless we get video upload, it would be difficult to confirm that these are two differnt versions. However, the song is outstanding. Thanks for bringing it to our notice.

11 n.venkataraman February 11, 2013 at 9:28 pm

Here are two clips from the film Changez Khan (1957), Lyrics Qamar Jalalabadi, Music Hansraj Behl, Singer Md.Rafi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBWujjC_jUg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zPGJJmu6cxg#!

12 ASHOK M VAISHNAV February 12, 2013 at 3:23 pm

We can see a Part (iii) of this song on YT – http://youtu.be/PF6PQRNwxcQ.
It seems that the last 1.04 min. portion of the original song may have been used, with telling effects, in these different situations. I have always listened to this song as a full one song on the original Extended Long Play record or as two part song on Radio. Not having seen the film, it becomes difficult to positively state whether these are different versions (do not appear to be so) or merely a portion of the song used used in different situations in the film.
Both the cases are seen in several films.
Be that as it may, there is hardly any debate that this is one of the great Rafi songs, known for the ease with of his ability to hold sur and throw of words at very high scales.

13 AK February 12, 2013 at 8:02 pm

A great multiple version song I just discovered, which I guess may be ‘new’ to most readers. We all know that Teri yaad ka deepak jalta hai is a song by Talat Mahmood in the film Gawaiya (1954), composed by Ram Ganguly. But it appears he had more than one version in the film.

Teri yaad ka deepak jalta hai by Talat Mahmood from Gawaiya, multiple versions

But this is not what is exciting. We have this version by Surendra. I always thought he stopped singing (or the composers stopped using him in 50s onwards). He continued acting though, in character roles. He was in this film too, and he sang three songs – most likely for himself. But surprises do not end. A comment on YT says that besides these songs, Surendra also had a song by Talat as playback on him!

Teri yaad ka deepak jalta hai by Surendra from Gawaiya

14 n.venkataraman February 12, 2013 at 8:53 pm

AK Ji,
A great find indeed. Thanks.
But I think the first clipping seems to have 3 versions of Talat Mamood’s rendition (not Surendra). Actually the 3rd version (6:06 to 8:46) is a repetition of the 1st version (upto 2:41). The second version (2:42 to 6:05) is a slower version. Both are beautiful. The second clipping of Surendra rendering the same song is equally beautiful.

15 AK February 12, 2013 at 10:16 pm

Yes, I thought so.

16 ASHOK M VAISHNAV February 13, 2013 at 10:49 am

@AKji,
What a find.
I heard it for the first time!

17 N Venkataraman February 14, 2013 at 4:56 pm

Another version of ‘Tum bin jaaun Kahan’ by Kishore Kumar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qln4cChfg8

18 mumbaikar8 February 14, 2013 at 6:40 pm

@ Akji,

Very good find, what a beautiful song. Thanks.

@ Vaishnavji,

Your song #5 from from Jeene ki Raah had has a 3rd version .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26f6UL3xUxA&feature=player_detailpage

19 ASHOK M VAISHNAV February 14, 2013 at 10:56 pm

@ n.venkatraman & mumbaikar8:

Version songs, in HFM is just an ocean where every dip will yield a gem, and if more and more divers undertake such journeys, the yield will always be bountiful.
Thanks for enriching the treasure.

20 mumbaikar8 February 15, 2013 at 6:35 pm
21 n.venkataraman February 15, 2013 at 8:21 pm

@mubaikar8
A good find. But this should be included under the following category of Multiple Version songs (2).
A. One version seems to have been recorded, but another version finally gets the nod in the film.
As per my knowledge the Mukesh’s version of this song and another duet by Mukesh and Geeta Dutt from this film Ek Jhalak (1957) were recorded, but ultimately the Hemant Kumar’s versions for both songs were included in the film. I think we should present both the versions of the duet (Hemant Kumar/Mukesh and Geeta Dutta) at the appropriate post. If Ashokji permits, then I will present this duet here.

22 ASHOK M VAISHNAV February 15, 2013 at 9:52 pm

@mumbaikar8.
This series like an Axyapatra – every time we dip into it, we return with a gem.

@n.venkataraman
By all means.

23 ASHOK M VAISHNAV February 20, 2013 at 12:55 pm

Here are two songs filmed on a similar situatution – common elemnts are Mehmood, Manaa Dey and R D Burman .
First one Nir Ta Ta is from Chandan K a Palna – 1967 – http://youtu.be/F-89tuRr1mU
and its image song is
Ek Chatur Naar – Padosan – http://youtu.be/9HwrMGpFaik

24 ASHOK M VAISHNAV February 20, 2013 at 2:20 pm

And, now am I seeing similarities between Log Kehte Hai Tu Sachch Hi Kehete Honge, from 1963 film Yeh Dil Kisko Dun (Music director – Iqbal Qureshi) –

http://youtu.be/Y-hCvbTjcvQ

and Jab Jab Phool Khile song Hum Ko Tum Se Pyaar Aaya –

http://youtu.be/lwKgAdAmSfo.

25 n.venkataraman February 20, 2013 at 7:32 pm

Ashok Vaishnavji,
First, let me tell you I liked all the four songs. The song ‘Nir Ta Ta’ was new to me. A very good song similar to that of ‘Padosan’. But the intensity in depiction is less, if you compare it to the song from ‘Padosan’.
In the next two ‘similar situation-mood songs’ clips the energy level of the singer and the actor is awesome.
I do agree that there are common elements.
1. Close similarities in situation.
2.Both the songs rendered by same male singer or
at least one male singer is common where there are more than one male singer.
3. The mood of both the versions are same and not different.
4. There are common actor(s) in both the versions.
You must be wondering why I am beating round the bush.
In my humble opinion, both the pair of songs should be considered under a separate category where at least the first three points, which I have mentioned above, must be present.
Your second article on this subject covers two categories namely
A. One version seems to have been recorded, but another version finally gets the nod in the film, where the both the versions have male singers.
B.Happy and sad versions of the same song by male singers.
In this article you have included both the versions by male playback singers – Different Moods.
The above two pairs of songs you have presented (Comment #23 and 24) does not fit into any of these categories.
Similarly, we can follow the same pattern for the female version songs.
We can have a separate categories for
1.Male/Male duets
2.Female/Female duets
3.Male solo/Male-Female duet.
4.Female solo/Male-Female duet.
5.Male solo/Male-Male duet.
6.Female solo/Female-Female duet.
Each of these categories need not have separate post, but two or more categories can be clubbed under one article.
I would like to humbly state that this is in context to my comment earlier that the entire task, which is monumental, should be well organized and documented.
I am placing this suggestion to you and Akji.
We may agree or agree to disagree.

26 AK February 21, 2013 at 12:38 am

Ashokji,
Nir ta ta is a very interesting song. Heard for the first time. As for the inspiration for Ek chatur naar, its tune is taken from a song with the same mukhada sung by Ashok Kumar in Jhoola (1941). I have given its link in my earlier post on Kishore Kumar’s wild, crazy and comic songs.

Venkataramanji,
As for the first part of your comments, these songs would not fit in ‘Multiple Version Songs’, though if we come across sufficient number of songs, we may write a post under a suitable title. I am sure Ashokji would be creating a song bank for use later. The more parameters are common, the more interesting the list would become.

As for the second part, the clearest distinct categories are male/female, all males or all females but different voices, and multiple versions in different languages. A solo and a duet or more singers for the same song is also an interesting category. In your list isn’t 1 same as 5, and 2 same as 6? In any case same gender duets, also having a solo version would be quite rare. Therefore, these can be put under one generic category – solo and same gender duet. No 3 and 4 would be more common. Depending on how many songs we get, it can be two or one post – ‘One version solo and other version (s) duet or more singers’.

But let me also add, both of you are genius.

27 n.venkataraman February 21, 2013 at 9:04 pm

I am presenting two version of an ‘Inspirational Song’ .
‘Apne liye Jiye toh kya jiye’ by Manna Dey from the film Badal(1966), lyrics Javed Anwar, Music Usha Khanna
1st version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPA-VBqnCSQ
2nd version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEuqkLVnL8

28 Kuldeep Chauhan February 22, 2013 at 8:49 pm

Dear Friends,

I am not clear as where do I post this.
Let me present you two songs which have a striking similarity in terms of the notes.
The songs are 1) Yeh Hawa Yeh Raat Yeh Chandani – sung by Talat Mehmood and composed by Shajjat Hussain for the film Sangdil

The second song 2) Tujhe Ky sunaun mein dilruba – sung by Mohammed Rafi composed by Madan Mohan for the film Aakhri Dao.

Yeh Hawa Yeh Raat starts as “Sa Sa Re Sa Ni Dha Ma Ma Pa Dha Pa Ma Ga” where as Tujhe Kya Sunaoon is a bit complicated and it starts with “Sa Ni Pa Dha Ma Pa Ma Ga Ma Dha Ni Dha”. Film was released in 1958 under the banner of Movie Stars. The song Tujhe kya sunaun is in a little vilambit taal.

Please listen to the two versions in the given links.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68hGgXZXpvQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgpnCC1oCIo&playnext=1&list=PLkavFT11XksD_jdm1IbKmB8ct5Jod3mgs&feature=results_video

The links for you to enjoy the songs.

I don’t know whether this finds a place here, nevertheless, I am sure you will enjoy the striking similarity of the songs.

Regards,
Kuldeep Chauhan

29 ASHOK M VAISHNAV February 23, 2013 at 10:52 am

@ Kuldeep Chauhan
These, and some other songs, did come to our knowledge while working initially for this series.

However, these songs are not a case of simple versions, they can, at best, be classified, as ‘inspired’ songs. AKji has also pointed out, on SoY, some examples of ‘creative self-inspiration ( or plagiarism).

Nonetheless, point well taken. Thnaks.

May I suggest that we use e-mail (to AKji) for directing the information, not directly related to the subject matter of the post, so as to enable him to build a repository of such inputs ( subject, of course, to Shri AKji’s concurrence or to any other mechanism that he may suggest.)

30 Kuldeep Chauhan February 23, 2013 at 11:40 am

Dear Ashokji,
Thanks for the acknowledgement and for taking note of the message.

Regards,
Kuldeep Chauhan

31 ASHOK M VAISHNAV April 7, 2013 at 10:34 am

This ocean of multiple version songs does not seem to have a bottom.
Every dip (search) on YT doe s throw up a song or tow- and quite a few them either not head at all or the ones that have faded in the memory.

Here is one more set of songs:

Karam Gat Taare Naah- Milan (1958) – Hansraj Behl – Manna Day – three versions:
http://youtu.be/GVbD3qPmrzs ;
http://youtu.be/fxXX16SY5bc ;
http://youtu.be/nBrThsql8tk

32 mumbaikar8 April 9, 2013 at 5:05 pm

One more dip. This is like Railway Platform song
Once with the titles and repeated in the movie later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IaCNVExE2s0

33 ASHOK M VAISHNAV April 9, 2013 at 5:41 pm

Yes, this is more like a theme song, it is played many times over in the film, particularly when another symbol, the clock striking a half-hour chime.
Thanks.

34 ASHOK M VAISHNAV April 22, 2013 at 1:46 pm

While listening to my past collections, I came across this song:
Mujhe Apana Yaar Bana Lo – Boyfriend – Shanker Jaikishan Mohammad Rafi -a lilting peppy version, with a typical SJ violin ensemble prelude

http://youtu.be/W6KJ__KLAEc ,

a second version, in the same mischievous mood , party song, where all other party-goers simply do not know what role they need to play

http://youtu.be/9FX_SFkuvhI

and a third, pensive version

http://youtu.be/KhlM9or5sTk

So, I thought of sharing it here.

35 mumbaikar8 May 27, 2013 at 7:31 am

On Dutt Saheb’s anniversary, listening to his songs I wondered how I could forget to post this song in happy and sad song category, better late than never.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVnf7o8_szw&feature=player_detailpage

36 ASHOK M VAISHNAV May 27, 2013 at 9:22 am

@ mumbaikar8,
Truly, a song that can never be missed at any discussion on of a song that reflects two moods.
The first part is epitomizes the deep anguish of the expectations belied, which in the second part take on visible symptoms.
Thanks for the song.

37 arvindersharma June 22, 2014 at 11:44 pm

Ashok Vaishnav Ji,
Two very interesting pieces of information I would like to share here.

The famous Rafi song from ‘Do Badan’, ‘raha gardishon me hardam’, was also recorded in Mukesh’s voice for film ‘Ghoonghat’.
Music for both the films was by Ravi.

Another famous Rafi song, ‘main ye soch kar uske dar se utha tha’ was initially recorded by Iqbal Qureshi for film ‘Panchayat’, but was later used by Madanmohan for film ‘Haqiqat’

I will here present a song which I have liked since my childhood, and not only the main song, but the ‘Taaleem’ part of the song, which I presume, makes it eligible to be included here.

poochho na kaise maine rain bitayi..Manna Dey-Sha…: http://youtu.be/s0XXy00dEvU
Sung by Manna De from ‘Meri Soorat Teri Aankhen’, music by S D Burman.

A pair of songs from ‘Kabhi Kabhi’, sung by Mukesh, music by Khayyam.

Main Pal Do Pal Ka Shayar Hoon (Eng Sub) [Full Vi…: http://youtu.be/bI10wgbeXgc
and the less famous no
Main har ek pal ka shaayar hoon – Kabhi Kabhie: http://youtu.be/-uaRZCO5vv8

I have already transgressed the ‘Golden Era’ limit but there has to be some exceptions to the rules.

This triplet of songs, seems to be a well deserved case of inclusion in your post.
Film ‘Aap To Aise Na The’,music by Usha Khanna.

Mohammed Rafi sings in a joyous mood,
Tu Is Tarah Se Meri Zindagi Main Shaamil (The Gre…: http://youtu.be/oaSN3Ol7WA8

Now Manhar Udhaas sings romantically,
Tu Is Tarah Se Meri Zindagi Mein (Male) – Aap To …: http://youtu.be/rbmPWO4DMjs

and Hemlata sings
http://youtu.be/jDTvgX8bMuA

38 AK June 25, 2014 at 6:20 pm

Sharmaji,
I could not help joining in your conversation with Ashokji. Was Raha gardighon mein hardam said to be recorded in Mukesh’s voice used in Ghoonghat?. HFGK does not list it, nor could I locate it on YT. It would be absolutely amazing if you can link it.

Main ye sochkar uske dar se utha tha from Panchayat is not available on YT either even though some other songs from the film are available, but it is listed in HFGK. Manek Premchand also mentions in ‘Yesterday’s Melodies Today’s Memories’ its first use in Panchayat. It would be interesting to know if it had the same tune we are familiar with. In that case should we not credit this great composition to Iqbal Qureshi, rather than Madan Maohan?

The triplet of the song Tu is tarah se meri zinagi mein shaamil hai is interesting. I find Manhar’s version the best.

Ashokji has opened a window to a special type of songs. I am sure there are many more Versions to come from him in the series.

39 ASHOK M VAISHNAV June 26, 2014 at 3:41 pm

#arvindersharma
Thanks for adding a great churn and richness to the froth of the discussion.

I have taken up ‘Poochho Na Kaise Maine Rain Bitayi’ in a future article where one of the songs is a male solo and the other one is duet.

I have penned an article on triple versions as well, which is now in the pipeline.

Going beyond Golden Era calls for listening to the current songs and then sort out the exceptions. But, fathoming out gems for any part of the sea is worth its while.

40 arvindersharma June 27, 2014 at 11:02 am

A K Ji,
I am very pleased with your barge in.
Regarding ‘raha gardishon me’ by Mukesh in ‘Ghoonghat, HKFM does mention it in its ‘Khand’ 3, (page no.1059) where the film ‘Ghoonghat’s’ songs are mentioned. A small caption underneath mentions that this song was recorded in Mukesh’s voice but not used in the film.
I tried to get the song but have not succeeded till date.
Regarding ‘main ye soch kar’, I have similar thoughts about the credits of the song.
Iqbal Qureshi certainly deserves it if he had so graciously loaned it to Madanmohan.
Ashok Vaishnav Ji,
I would certainly have refrained myself from adding triple version songs had I known of you of being so resourceful as to writing a full blog on the subject.
I am simply amazed by your knowledge.
Apologies for my eagerness.
By the way, another contribution from my side,
an interesting pair of songs.
First, we have Mohammed Rafi singing a song from film ‘Paisa’, music Ram Ganguly.
Paisa hi rang roop hai paisa hi maal hai (VERY HE…: http://youtu.be/03RCpnuodqI
and Kishore Kumar in his comic melody from film ‘Paisa Hi Paisa’ music Anil Biswas.
Paise Ka Mantar song – Paisa Hi Paisa: http://youtu.be/iOLsGEz8MZEiOLsGEz8MZE
I refrained myself from using another similar duet from ‘Paisa Hi Paisa’, due to the novelty factor of the Rafi song from ‘Paisa’.

41 AK June 27, 2014 at 11:30 am

Sharmaji,
Yes, I saw the footnote. I was looking for it in the song-list. Thanks a lot. But if the songs are not recorded or released, such trivia, to my mind, do not have much value.

It seems Main ye sochkar in Panchayat was also in the same category. Mumbaikar8, the familiar active participant on SoY, was apparently following our conversation, and she contacted the ‘official’ website of Madan Mohan. They have responded to her, which she forwarded to me, that this song was not used in Panchayat (though planned), and they are not sure if its record was issued.

42 arvindersharma June 27, 2014 at 2:00 pm

Thanks AK Ji and mumbaikar8 for the information and the follow up.

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