Naushad’s Long-distance Duets of Separation

August 19, 2015

NaushadHindi films have a very neat structure. They can be divided into three parts – romance, conflict and resolution. The lovers meet, or childhood friends grow up into lovers and dance around trees and sing romantic songs. Then the villain strikes, who lusts for the girl or her wealth, and kidnaps her; or the girl’s Daddy cannot stand the boy and locks her up; therefore, the lovers sing sad songs. In the end all the misunderstandings are removed, or the villain is beaten to pulp, and the lovers unite singing happy songs again. If eight or nine songs are divided evenly, about two or three should fall under the sad part. Some movies have weepy endings, especially if they happen to star a ‘Tragedy King’ or ‘Tragedy Queen’, which means that there could be proportionately more sad songs.

Where Bollywood takes a giant leap is in creating long-distance duets of separation in which the lovers, hundreds of miles apart, sing the same song with matching lyrics, meter and tune, in perfect sync. People often wonder how this is possible. We know our ancestors had reached the pinnacle of scientific and technical achievement, and had invented everything thousands of years ago, which the modern science is discovering only now – Live TV: Sanjay narrating the Great War to Dhritrashtra; Aircraft: Pushpak Vimaan; Antibiotics: Sanjeevani Buti; ICBM: Agneyaastra; Nuclear Bomb: Brahmaastra etc. Long distance duets of separation are a similar technological feat of Bollywood, several decades before the communication revolution made video chat possible through Skype, Facebook or some such platform.

SoY is celebrating 2015 as the Year of Naushad, and incidentally the inaugural post of the year had one of the greatest LDDS: Saawan ke baadalo unse ye ja kaho by Karan Dewan and Zohra Ambalewali (Rattan, 1944). There are earlier duets of Naushad prior to Rattan, which sound like LDDS. There could be other composers who created LDDS before Naushad. But without their video clip, it would be difficult to say anything with certainty. One song I always visualised as a long distance duet of separation is Morey balapan ke saathi chhaila bhool jaiyo na (Tansen, 1943), but both parts of the duet are picturised on KL Saigal and Khursheed when they are together (the sad first part when Saigal is taking her leave, and the second happy part when he returns to meet her). In later years, every composer created LDDS. But Naushad was a pioneer and the greatest sculptor of this special type of songs, each such song being a masterpiece. I continue my tribute to him with the Master Sculptor’s great Long Distance Duets of Separation.

1. Baras gayi Ram baras gayi from Station Master (1942) by Rajkumari and GM Durrani, lyrics PL Santoshi

This song also has GM Durrani’s two solo versions (happy/romantic and sad). The video clip of this duet of Rajkumari and GM Durrani looks like an LDDS (Arunji may please confirm). Thus, this predates Saawan ke baadalo, but is equally beautiful, and incidentally, also with rains and clouds motif. When the lovers are separated, the rains make the pangs of sadness more acute. This seems to be the earliest available video link of an LDDS.

 

2. Bhool gaye kyun de ke sahara by Mukesh and Shamshad Begum from Anokhi Ada (1948), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni 

You can’t get a more perfect long distance duet of separation. An amnesic Naseem Bano, following a train accident, has lost all memory of her past lover Prem Adib; she is now convalescing at Surendra’s place, who is becoming the new man in her life. A betrayed, dishevelled and forlorn Prem Adib can only roam about aimlessly in the streets in the night, singing भूल गये क्यों दिल को सहारा. By some device this reaches the ears of Naseem Bano far far away to make her restless, and she is able to sing her part in perfect tune and meter.

 

3. Mera dil todnewale by Mukesh and Lata Mangeshkar from Mela (1948), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni

Dilip Kumar and Nargis’s love affair has reached an irredeemable end, but the lovers have nothing but good wishes even if they have lost everything. Another outstanding LDDS. Can you think of any other composer who comes anywhere close?

 

4. Zaalim zamana tujhko mujhse chhuda raha hai by Shyam Kumar and Suraiya from Dillgai (1949), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni

Shyam and Suraiya’s romance had encountered a roadblock at the hands of heartless relatives. The separated lovers are able to sing their duets in perfect sync, though miles apart. Naushad continues with his mastery over the genre. As some readers have observed in my post on Suraiya’s songs by Naushad, Dillagi was the apogee of Naushad-Suraiya combination. We have discussed several songs from this film. Here is another gem of a song.

 

5. Kaise baje dil ke sitar by Rafi and Shamshad Begum from Chandni Raat (1949), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni

This link has only audio, but lyrics make it a quintessential LDDS. Arunji and other experts may please confirm. This is one of the most beautiful Rafi-Shamshad Begum duets. Therefore, I am tempted to put it in my list. Naushad continues creating masterpiece after masterpiece.

 

6. Duniya badal gayi meri duniya badal gayi by Talat Mahmood and Shamshad Begum from Babul (1950), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni

One tragedy king was enough. But this film had Munawwar Sultana, too, whose love affairs were always jinxed. She would end up losing her man in film after film. The presence of Nargis created unnecessary complications. For no convincing reason, the lovers Dilip Kumar and Munawwar Sultana get separated, but we have this outstanding LDDS as compensation. One runs out of superlatives when it comes to Naushad.

 

7. Dekh liya maine kismet ka tamasha dekh liya by Md Rafi and Lata Mangeshkar from Deedar (1951), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni

This is an impossible tangle to solve. Dilip Kumar is now back to her childhood lover, Nargis’s place. While his love is as intense, she has lost all memories of the childhood. The new woman, Nimmi in his life, is left behind to sing her part, far away in the countryside, with Dilip Kumar singing in the comfort of Nargis’s drawing room, with a tinge of melancholy as she is not able to recognise him. Another superb LDDS.

 

8. Eid ka din tere bin hai pheeka by Rafi and Lata Mangeshkar from Sohni Mahiwal (1958), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni

Folk love legends have tragic endings; perhaps that is a reason for their perennial appeal. There is something charming in the lovers, who could not meet in this world, dying in union. A less known composition, but worth listening.

 

9. Dil todnewale tujhe dil dhoondh raha hai by Lata Mangeshkar and Rafi from Son of India (1962), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni

Kumkum uses her TV performance to tell the state of her heart to Kamaljit. Kamaljit sings his lines after watching her on the TV. Therefore, though it is a long-distance duet of separation, the sync in the duet is helped by technology (I am not sure if we had colour TV telecast in 1962). It has the class of Naushad even in a small banner film.

 

10. Yaad mein teri jaag jaag ke hum raat bhar karwatein badalte hain by Md Rafi and Lata Mangehskar from Mere Mehboob (1963), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni

Separation and pining was integral to a ‘Muslim social’, where the hero could get the alluring glimpse of the eyes of the lady only through a veil. Mere Mehboob was another landmark for Naushad, and this long distance duet of separation is one of his best.

 

11. Kisne mujhe sada di kisne mujhe pukara by Rafi and Suman Kalyanpur from Saaz Aur Awaz (1966), lyrics Khumar Barabanqvi

A real man and the spirit of the lady. This can qualify as an LDDS.

 

SOME UNIQUE LONG DISTANCE SONGS OF NAUSHAD

Female sad-happy duet

12. Betab hai dil by Uma Devi and Suraiya from Dard (1947), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni

Suraiya is happy, and the perennial loser Munawwar Sultana is sad, because you must have guessed it – their love for the same man has contradictory outcomes. With this film Shakeel Badayuni joins first time with Naushad, which would lead to a strong professional and personal bond.

 

Happy-sad duet on three artistes

13. Dil ko teri tasweer se bahlaye huye hain by Rafi and Suraiya from Dastaan (1950), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni

Raj Kapoor and his elder brother love the same girl, Suraiya, Rafi giving playback for both. One’s affair is on the upswing, the other knows the situation has become delicate. The eldest sister, Veena, is a killjoy, who would wreak destruction on everyone.

 

Near but far (blind) sad duet together

14. Mera pyar bhi tu hai by Mukesh and Suman Kalyanpur from Saathi (1968), lyrics Majrooh Sultanpuri

The lead actors, Rajendra Kumar and Vyjayanthimala, are together but sad. A third angle Simmi looms large over Rajendra Kumar’s memory, and as was his wont, he had also become blind in the meanwhile. Majrooh Sultanpuri, who had almost vanished from Naushad, makes a nice comeback after a long gap with this movie. Naushad was past his prime, but we have a saying – हाथी मरा भी तो सौ मन का. This film had some excellent songs, but these could not save the film from commercial failure. I am ending with this song which may be described as a hybrid LDDS.

{ 120 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Mahesh August 19, 2015 at 10:58 am

https://youtu.be/l1TXT8MAIPA

A triad, but certainly fits the bill.

Many Thanks for keeping us on our toes again. I am sure many more songs will follow.

2 Ravindra Kelkar August 19, 2015 at 11:54 am

AK Ji,
Nice topic & wonderfully contructed article.

3 Dinesh K Jain August 19, 2015 at 12:25 pm

That was quick, AK, writing on a theme! Thanks.

However, I wish I had your understanding and appreciation, too, to like all these songs!!

Let me suggest a few others: the incomparable Seene mein sulagte hain armaan from Taraana, Rajdhani’s bhool ja sapne suhane; Parasmani’s Woh jab yaad aaye; Aah’s Aaja re ab mera dil pukara; Laila Majnu’s Aasman wale teri duniya, Dekh li aye ishq teri and Baharon ki duniya pukare; Naushad’s own Awaz de kahan hai from Anmol Ghadi; Armaan’s Bol na bol aye jaane wale; Barsat’s Chhod gaye balam, and if I may say, many more, even if beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.

Yes, it is Naushad’s year on the SoY, and for someone I know Naushad is the ultimate in film music, and I have no complaint against your choices, just as I am sure you will not quarrel with mine. My point is simple, there is many a composer who came not even close to Naushad in the genre of LDDS but even surpassed him. Our Bollywood Hindi music, especially ‘music of yore’, was so rich in melody and music that it would seem like an overkill to try to label any one person as “the best”. Just a matter of opinion.

4 AK August 19, 2015 at 2:58 pm

Mahesh,
Door koi gaaye dhun ye sunaye fits in perfectly. It is also a happy-sad song. It also belongs to another category of a triad which is actually a duet, because Rafi’s presence is just formal.

Ravindra Kelkar,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation.

5 AK August 19, 2015 at 3:06 pm

Dinesh,
Tere phoolon se bhi pyar, tere kaanton se bhi pyar. Thanks a lot. You could guess my state, I am surprised if someone is not excited by Naushad.

But loking at it objectively, is there any other music director whose dozen LDDS we can reel off, which are of superb quality? Every major MD has composed LDDS, as I have mentioned. All the songs you have mentioned are my great favourites, most of which have appeared on SoY, and we can make a list of 10-20 superb LDDS. But you would need the combined might of others to take on Naushad in this special class of songs. (Don’t provoke a Naushad fan. :))

6 gaddeswarup August 19, 2015 at 5:35 pm

AKji, A query. I do not remember any two-way (and simultaneous) messenger poems from the literature I am aware of; I have very little knowledge of Urdu or Persian literature. Is this a filmi invention? If so is Naushad the first?

7 mumbaikar8 August 19, 2015 at 5:45 pm

AK,
Naushad is best at LDDS or not I do not know but your creativity is reaching greater heights with each Naushad article.
I would like to quote the famous saying “जहाँ न पहुंचे रवि वहां पहुंचे कवि”.
I think this triad should fit the bill.
Mere ghar se pyaar ki palki:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uoe7CVaXPQA

8 AK August 19, 2015 at 7:05 pm

Gaddeswarupji,
Meghdoot is, of course, a messenger poem, but probably this is not what you mean. You are looking for equivalent of LDDS in literature. I can’t off hand think of any LDPS (long distance poetry of separation). But the lovers synchronously pining for each other is quite common in literature.

It is difficult to say who is the first to introduce LDDS in films. Firstly, most of the early era songs are lost. Of the ones which are available, in many cases only audio is available, and one has to guess from the lyrics. You have given a good topic for experts like Arunji.

9 AK August 19, 2015 at 7:15 pm

Mumbaikar8,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Mere ghar se pyar ki paalki chali gayi fits in perfectly in the theme. Those who doubt if Naushad was the best in LDDS are invited to mention 10 LDDS each of the other top MDs, then we can seriously make the comparison.

10 gaddeswarup August 19, 2015 at 7:31 pm

AK Ji, Yes and also the messenger explicitly addressed by both, I assume that is what is happening in the Rattan song sawan me badaloo . At least in a similar song in the Telugu film Malliswari
both address the clouds.

11 Ashok M Vaishnav August 19, 2015 at 9:42 pm

AKji has now excelled in expanding the Naushad’s creative boundaries.

LDDS was indeed a very favorite way of expressing the sorrow. in Hindi Films.

But, ……. yes, reeling off a dozen songs from other MD(s).. even as prolific ones as SJ or LP …. and each one a gem, better than the earlier one….. may be a very difficult challenge to rise upto.

Just to make an humble beginning, here are a few of SJ duets:
Tum Bin Sajan – Gaban (1966)
https://youtu.be/snYSiPrJlwc

Awaz Deke Hamen Na Bulao, Mohabbat Mein Hum ko Na Itna Tadpao – Professor (Not very long distanced-one, but nonetheless…
https://youtu.be/zMfMgexTfi8
Aaj Kal Mein Dhal Gaya Din Hua Tamaam Tu Bhi So Ja Gayi Rang Bhari Shaam – Beti Bete
https://youtu.be/Peh-Hz0kVB0

12 AK August 19, 2015 at 9:51 pm

Ashokji,
Very sporting of you to take up the challenge. That makes SJ’s three, plus two Dinesh has added: Aa ja re ab mera dil pukara and Chhod gaye baalam. After we have ten each of some MDs, we will look at quality comparison.

13 Anu Warrier August 19, 2015 at 10:04 pm

Though not a Naushad fanatic myself (my favourite MDs are very, very different), I do like many of his compositions. I do not know whether he is the ‘best’ at LDDS or just plain composition or not, but I do know better than to challenge a real fan. 🙂

For me, as I think I mentioned before, ‘best’ is a very subjective opinion. Not fact. And that is precisely why I never have a ‘Best of’ list on my blog. I mean, nobody can quibble with you saying these are some of your favourite songs. (Well, some do try, but that’s another matter.)

I will, therefore, enjoy all the songs you have posted, and all the songs (from other composers as well) that have been posted in the comments, and sit back and enjoy the discussion. There is surely place for quiet participation in the SoY adda?

p.s. I have to say, I love the theme. And I’m kicking myself for not having thought of it myself! Hats off to you.

14 Anu Warrier August 19, 2015 at 10:14 pm

Just to add some support to Dinesh. 🙂
1. Chhod gaye balam from Barsaat
https://youtu.be/pOd_l7LgCKk

2. Ramayya Vastavaiyya from Shree 420
https://youtu.be/DlrOUiL_3oM

15 ksbhatia August 20, 2015 at 12:05 am

AK’ ji;
Once again a beautiful and very entertaining theme . All the songs of Naushad sahib are my fav.
Naushad’s other great song ……. Kisi ke dil mein rahena tha …… by Lata and Shamshad from Babul should find a place in the list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAzOP2MsOBs
Here are two songs from other MD’s booty
1 Teri duniya se door ……. by Lata and Rafi from Zabak with Chitrgupt as MD .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGuHno7cHFk

2 Hamsafar saath apna chhoad chale….. By Rafi, Asha from Aakhri dao
with Madan mohan as MD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCt2PeLwKTU

16 ksbhatia August 20, 2015 at 12:08 am

……in continuation, just want to know if the song ….. Patli kamar hai …. from Barsaat fits the bill .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPhjCfvnDTo

17 ksbhatia August 20, 2015 at 12:16 am

AK’ji;
Just found one more of a song from Naushad’s booty.

Mohabbat ki bas itni daastan hai from Baradari

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsxNo8rEFoU

18 Jignesh Kotadia August 20, 2015 at 12:56 am

Novel theme..you brought Akji !!
So.. Duets have various distances too And some MDs have also mastered particular distance ! Long distance, medium distance(River banks distance : Tu ganga ki mauj mai), short distance(Room distance : Kabhi dil dil se takrata to hoga), Very short distance(Piano distance : Milte hi aankhen dil), no distance duet(yun to aapas me bigadte hai)…wow ! Also infinite distance (after the death of one of the duo..e.g..Sabhi ahal e duniya ye kehte hai humse, ke aata nahi koi mulk e adam se)

All the duets you selected are gems… 1,2,8,11,12 heard first time even if i have these songs in my storage !! All are melodious ! Dekh liya maine is one of my personal choices.

19 AK August 20, 2015 at 6:36 am

Anu,
So there is one more who is not a Naushad fanatic! You can challenge me with facts and figures, but एक एक कर के आओ (produce a dozen LDDS of one MD, then we shall talk).

Chhod gaye baalam Dinesh also added. Ramaiya vastavaiya is a very interesting hybrid LDDS. It is a chorus of enjoyment, in which there is a sad component. We are discovering a large number of happy-sad LDDS, which can be considered a separate sub-category.

Don’t kick yourself. You have to leave something for others too.

20 AK August 20, 2015 at 6:41 am

KS Bhatiaji,
Beautiful songs you have added. Patli kamar hai fits in perfectly. It is a unique song, as Premnath is quite oblivious and has fun with Cuckoo, where as Nimmi is pining for him.

A small correction – Baradari is composed by Nashad, and not Naushad.

21 AK August 20, 2015 at 6:45 am

Jignesh,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation.

And there are other types too: Happy-sad; Two for a third person; Both for different persons etc.

22 Mahesh August 20, 2015 at 12:06 pm

Cheating !!!.

I thought we will confine to Naushad atleast for a couple of days before letting in other MD’s. But AK ji opened the flood gates on day one itself.

Anyway, let me join in now.

Mukesh-Lata in Malhar
https://youtu.be/CbBGkRqdRwc

Talat-Lata in Taranna
https://youtu.be/GMlTeyN3zo4

Mukesh-Lata in Shair
https://youtu.be/4kCNpZuCdAw

Mukesh-Lata in Aah
https://youtu.be/sver9O8K3t8

Mukesh-Lata in Haryali Aur Rasta
https://youtu.be/uqTXfoLsXjA

and this great song which fits the bill to the T.

Mukesh-Lata in Saraswati Chandra
https://youtu.be/WtU389r6uys

There are several dozens more I am sure…..

23 AK August 20, 2015 at 1:20 pm

Mahesh,
The readers forced open the floodgates. There are a large number of LDDS of stunning beauty. Finally, we can try to put them MD-wise to see if Naushad has any competition.

24 ksbhatia August 20, 2015 at 2:44 pm

AK’ Mahesh[jis] ;
Naushad’s songs will have no competition and will be the winner hands down even if we put SJ’s strong brigade of Lata’s songs like

1 Rasika balma ……. chori chori

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4HdSygZrnc
2 Tera jaana ………..Anari

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URfoTtyxOdU

3Bedardi balma …….Arzoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMIA8pdhLvg

There are trio of songs from Dekh kabira roya pinning for Madan mohan……. meri beena tuj bin roye , Ashkoan se teri humne tasveer banaye hai, tu pyar kare ya thukraye hum hain to tere deewanoan mein …….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHL9FxHJPlU

Another beauty from Madan mohan…… Likh kar tera naam zamin per……from Laila majnu .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otBwrv5vCQo

25 AK August 20, 2015 at 3:47 pm

KS Bhatiaji,
We are limiting ourselves to only LDDS. Naushad becomes even more unassailable.

26 mumbaikar8 August 20, 2015 at 6:28 pm

AK,
I do not intend to take up the challenge, only accepting your invitation and trying to collect some songs for the challengers.
I am not a fanatic of SJ either. I can sit back, relax enjoy good songs.
Make my beginning for SJ with
Aaja ke intezar me Halaku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=21&v=NH1B4jWkxR4
Jab jab phool khile Shikast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMlPY9x4GK8
Yadd kiya dil ne Patita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuxP3lFIGco

27 AK August 20, 2015 at 11:38 pm

Mumbaikar8,
Yaad kiya dil ne kahan ho tum does not seem to be an LDDS. Dev Anand and Usha Kiran are together in the video. All the songs are excellent. SJ did about twice the songs of Naushad, therefore one can find their ten. We are very close.

28 Jignesh Kotadia August 21, 2015 at 12:20 am

Akji..
i am trying to define LDDS 🙂 If you see any miss in it plz amend and revise it.

“An LDDS can be defined as a song that has been sung by two parties securing atleast a distance that they can not see each other even after they set upright on a flat ground and with the help of a 10x binocular, either one of them dead or both dead or both alive, either in sad, happy, comic or patriotic mood, in which first party sings in a unique pitch that it becomes clearly audible to the other party located at any far distance without any aid of available voice conveying technologies, hence he/she can reciprocate in the same tune to the first party.”

29 mumbaikar8 August 21, 2015 at 5:30 am

Ak,
The lyrics clearly suggest Yaad kiya dilne kahan is LDDS, their togetherness is I think symbolic.

30 AK August 21, 2015 at 5:51 am

Jignesh,
Kya baat hai! You have been seeing 3 Idiots recently? Perfect, but you need to add the words ‘or more’ between ‘two’ and ‘parties’ in the first sentence.

31 AK August 21, 2015 at 5:52 am

Mumbaikar8,
You must be right. I have not seen the movie.

32 Anu Warrier August 21, 2015 at 8:53 am

mumbaikar, unfortunately Yaad kiya dil ne kahan ho tum is a plain romantic duet. Not a LDDS, whatever the lyrics suggest. 🙂

33 Siddharth August 21, 2015 at 12:31 pm

AKji,
This is an interesting post with all the lovely songs.
I would like to add 2 more brilliant songs here -(Do they qualify?)

1.Aa ab laut chalein – Jis Desh main ganga behti hai -SJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Fu_O7y-dg

2. O chand jahan woh jayen – Sharda- CR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTgrg09W7eg

I think Patita song may qualify as Near bu Far duet (like song #14).
My favourite in this category is the one from Shikast (Jab jab phool khile)which Mumbaikarji has already posted.

34 mumbaikar8 August 21, 2015 at 5:23 pm

Anu,
I am not a movie buff any more, I do not remember seeing this movie, the lyrics certainly suggest that it its LDDS, IF it is not, let us replace it with this Harliyali Raasta song, which I think does not match in quality but will certainly qualify.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9skcQBCMuHY

35 AK August 21, 2015 at 6:22 pm

Siddharth,
The second song fits more clearly. The first one is one of the best of SJ, but probably is not a good example of LDDS.

36 Jignesh Kotadia August 22, 2015 at 12:43 am

एकेजी

After reading Mumbaikarji and Siddharthji’ plausible comments and your suggestion i think the condition should be : ” A song that has been sung by two or more parties securing at least a Physical distance..” for a PLDDS. But i doubt, would involvement of third party spare that song in Duet category !? (Neend ud jaaye teri chain se sonewaale..Juaari..1968).

It seems that LDDS has two Subdivisions
1. PLDDS – Physically ldds
2. MLDDS – Mentally ldds
I think Yaad kiya dil ne falls in mldds and also the sad version of Mera pyar bhi tu hai.

yes, i have seen 3 Idiots but not recently. Recently i have seen PK..and i gladly surprized when i heard 3 melodious songs from 50’s in it on different ocassions.
1. Abhi to main jawaan hun
2. Zaahid sharaab peene de
3. Aasmaan pe hai khuda
The man Raju Hirani is exceptional brain. He knows how to make a class as well as mass film without vulgarity and violence. Use of these 3 songs in his movie shows how deep he is connected to Ohfm. He knows where the treasure of melody lies.

37 Ashwin Bhandarkar August 22, 2015 at 12:45 am

Here’s an SDDS from Kalyanji-Anandji’s ouevre:

‘Neend na mujhko aaye’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG3i3InLEUo

38 Jignesh Kotadia August 22, 2015 at 12:50 am

एकेजी
सुझाव और सराहना के लिये शुक्रिया

i wrote such headlines in my previous comment but sadly the second line didnt display !!

39 Ashwin Bhandarkar August 22, 2015 at 12:50 am

Another SDDS from KA, once again with Lata and Hemant:

“Tumhen yaad hoga kabhi hum mile the’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByS-vbeocUM

40 Ashwin Bhandarkar August 22, 2015 at 2:06 am

On a related topic….

Most separations in our movies are not for ever, and we usually have a happy ending with a tearful reunion, the reunion usually being triggered when the hero/heroine hears the now grown-up and hitherto unrecognized lover/sibling break into a song that they used to sing together when they were tiny tots. We can neatly divide these songs into two categories – SCRL and SCRS – depending on whether the parties getting reunited are lovers or siblings. Here are some examples:

Song from childhood that reunites lovers (SCRL):

‘Jeet hi lenge baazi hum tum’ from ‘Shola aur Shabnam’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e11lqpcp-tk

There are times when the SCRL does not result in the expected outcome:

‘Bachpan ke din’ from ‘Deedaar’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgbXTK5y3ts

Song from childhood that reunites siblings (SCRS):

1. ‘Phoolon ka taaron ka sabka kehna hai’ from ‘Hare Raama Hare Krishna’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygeZfOExejA

2. ‘Yaadon ki baaraat’ from ‘Yaadon ki baaraat’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g_Chf1K6sU

41 AK August 22, 2015 at 6:06 am

Jignesh, Ashwin
Thanks a lot for adding new dimensions to the topic. My point was that long-distance sync is a unique technological feat. Therefore, while MDDS, SCRL and SCRS are interesting categories, they do not evoke such wonder as a scientific achievement.

42 Dinesh K Jain August 22, 2015 at 9:02 am

Dear AK, I do not know how you find so much time for your creation SoY besides your mundane but principal duties, but since you are here, and are the raison etre for all of us here too, let us continue on.

You threw down the gauntlet when for your Mela LDDS you added, “Can you think of any other composer who comes anywhere close?” In response, I cited a few LDDSs which at least to my ears were sweeter than many or most of the Naushad’s in your list. A few more such examples have been added by others too subsequently, apparently in support of my point. Now, as if by a sleight of hand, you have converted this into a challenge for the number of songs by one single MD. Let me say that quantity for quality was never the point!

Among your own Naushad’s LDDSs, only 9 & 10, and 14 to some extent, are among my favourites, whereas at least 5 of those I had never heard before (!) arguably indicating their lack of relative popularity (and therefore quality?). On the other hand, in my opinion, while the Taraana number (Seene mein sulagte) is among the all-time top songs on any lists, even the Aah and Parasmani songs I cited hold an unbeatable challenge to most of Naushad’s songs.

Please take care that I am not trying to run down Naushad, or your esteem for him, but simply that in our opulently rich Hindi film music world, there are far too many bright constellations to place the crown on anyone of them alone.

43 AK August 22, 2015 at 10:11 am

Dinesh,
SoY has now also become a challenge in the face of my ‘mundane and principal duties’. Since so many knowledgeable readers continue their patronage, I have to find out ways to overcome the hurdles. Thanks a lot for your support.

On Naushad, probably we have to agree to disagree. When I thought of LDDS, his ten songs came to me naturally. All major composers have created superb LDDS, but I needed some effort to think of ten songs of a single MD. My guess is only SJ would qualify because of his volume.

I am surprised that you had not heard of many songs of this list, because our sources were the same – the radio. One reason could be self-selection. You must have heard, but didn’t took much notice because you were not thrilled. Many lovers of old film music are not able to relate to the 40s and earlier. Somehow I became fascinated by the vintage sound.

Thanks again.

44 gaddeswarup August 22, 2015 at 12:26 pm

Any possibility of looking at LDDS from other languages? Though I generally like Hindi film songs better than Telugu ones, my favourite LDDS is still the one from Malliswari 1951.

45 AK August 22, 2015 at 3:19 pm

Gaddeswarupji,
If you can post LDDS which are based on the tune of a well known Hindi song, that would be indeed interesting. Otherwise, most of us might find it difficult to relate to the song.

46 ksbhatia August 22, 2015 at 3:53 pm

AK’ji;
I think gem of a duet song of Naushad sahib by Surendra and Shamshad…. Kyun uneh dil diya ….. from Anokhi Ada should qualify for SDDS / LDDS song as their lyrics suggest …to be dreaming together but distant apart .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKWNkL4guR4

47 ksbhatia August 22, 2015 at 4:19 pm

……..in continuation . Another duet by Noor jahan and Surender …… Awaz de kahan hai …..from Anmol ghadi should also qualify .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohtGKeXeWvg

48 Ashwin Bhandarkar August 22, 2015 at 4:32 pm

Here’s a pretend-LDDS:

‘Mere piya gaye Rangoon’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pumMzP-gbP4

49 AK August 22, 2015 at 4:41 pm

KS Bhatiaji,
An exquisite song. Kaun bhoola hua aaj yaad aa gaya does indicate that the melody has stirred Naseem Bano’s memory of her earlier love. So it could be termed as SDDS.

Aawaz de kahan hai is, of course, one of the best LDDS. I was keeping it for some other theme.

50 AK August 22, 2015 at 4:45 pm

Ashwin,
A nice variation to the theme.

51 Mahesh August 22, 2015 at 4:47 pm

I don’t think any other MD including SJ will come close as far as LDDS is concerned. Naushad stands tall.

52 gaddeswarup August 22, 2015 at 6:26 pm

Let me give it a try. A Telugu LDDS in Rag Abheri http://youtu.be/nS75H7ygnnw
Film songs in different languages in Abheri http://dhanyasy.org/go/2011/08/21/indian-film-songs-in-abheri-bhimpalasi/

53 Anu Warrier August 22, 2015 at 6:39 pm

Please take care that I am not trying to run down Naushad, or your esteem for him, but simply that in our opulently rich Hindi film music world, there are far too many bright constellations to place the crown on anyone of them alone.

Can I just say that I not only agree with this statement (as I agree with the rest of his comment), but am also giving Dinesh a long-distance standing ovation?

54 Dinesh K Jain August 22, 2015 at 6:52 pm

I take the bow, Anu, however undeserved, and even though I am not quite sure what for.

And in my turn, I do thank you for your valuable support.

55 AK August 22, 2015 at 7:21 pm

Mahesh,
Undoubtedly. But I find some dear friends don’t agree without saying who comes close on LDDS.

56 AK August 22, 2015 at 7:23 pm

Gaddeswarupji,
The song from Mallishwari is mesmerising. But the last part of the song does not seem to be Abheri. Any idea what raga that could be?

57 gaddeswarup August 22, 2015 at 7:33 pm

No idea AKji. I looked up for the raga just to see similar songs. At one time I could recognise malkauns but not any more.

58 AK August 22, 2015 at 7:43 pm

Dinesh, Anu,
The ‘crown’, if you will, was with respect to LDDS. SJ would have good number of such songs. Any other MD you can think of who has ten excellent LDDS?

Your mutual back-slapping makes it a Naushad versus anti-Naushad issue. I have featured forgotten composers very prominently. I am celebrating Year of Naushad in the fifth year of my blogging. What Dinesh says is unexceptionable, but Anu, do I see glee in your comment?

59 ksbhatia August 22, 2015 at 11:16 pm

Mahesh’ji;
I think next to SJ could be Madan mohan or C . Ramchander . Its worth exploring on the side line .
I am not sure whether ……. Apni kaho kuchh meri suno……. a duet of Lata/Talat from Parchaian qualifies for SDDS song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpH4RyfObSw

60 Ashwin Bhandarkar August 22, 2015 at 11:35 pm

‘O chaand jahaan woh jaaye’ from Sharada would qualify better as an LDDR (Long Distance Duet by Rivals). Another example of LDDR is
‘Bol papihe bol re’ from Taraana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f37YIJhLcw0

61 Anu Warrier August 22, 2015 at 11:37 pm

AK, not at all. Why shouldn’t you like Naushad above everyone else? We all have our favourites. It’s just that I think (and perhaps I do you an injustice here and if so, I apologise sincerely) that you were quick to place Naushad above all, and seemingly disagree that any other MD could be as good – even in an LDDS. I do disagree with that, and concur with Dinesh that quantity and quality are mutually exclusive things. That is all.

I’d written something more, because I feel passionately about this, but putting it here is tantamount to setting up a canon to fire, standing in front of it, and then saying, ‘Ready? Aim! Fire!’

I do not want to stoke a controversy, or set anyone’s back up; suffice it to say that agreeing with Dinesh does not mean that you’re wrong in the way you think. Our opinions are ours. Subject to our own biases.

62 Anu Warrier August 22, 2015 at 11:39 pm

p.s. Agreeing with Dinesh also doesn’t mean that we are ‘mutually backslapping’ which reeks of some sort of a conspiracy or cohesive action against you. It just means that I share his opinion on this matter. Who knows? Tomorrow, we might disagree on something else.

63 AK August 23, 2015 at 6:16 am

Ashwin,
LDDR addressed to a third party.

64 AK August 23, 2015 at 6:26 am

Anu,
Just as Dinesh was surprised by the standing ovation, I am surprised by the apology. What for? It was an enjoyable discussion. Perhaps I should have put a smiley in my comment. 🙂

65 gaddeswarup August 23, 2015 at 7:11 am

AKji, Rearding the Malliswari song, a list gives the Ragamalika “bhImpalAs, kaLangada, kIravANi, hamsanandi” http://rksanka.tripod.com/music/songlist.html

66 AK August 23, 2015 at 7:23 am

Gaddeswatupji,
Now it is clear, because I was surprised that the later parts were so different from Abheri/Bhimpalasi.

67 mumbaikar8 August 24, 2015 at 5:04 am

AK, ksbhatiaji,
Am surprise how we missed this quintessential LDDS.
Jugnu : yahan badla wafa ka.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnreG77FbUI

68 AK August 24, 2015 at 6:17 am

Mumbaikar8,
Yes, it is one of the greatest. Now we have to work on locating pre-1942 LDDS.

69 s p sinha August 24, 2015 at 11:23 am

AKji,
1.tum mujhe bhul bhi jao from DIDI and 2. shiqayat kya karu from KUNDAN , are they good examples of LDDS ?

70 AK August 24, 2015 at 2:13 pm

SP Sinha,
The first one woul definitely figure in the list of best LDDS.

71 Dinesh K Jain August 24, 2015 at 3:14 pm

Also “Rahi Matwale…” from Waris (1954), the other version when Suraiya had lost Talat, though it might not have been released commercially.

72 ksbhatia August 24, 2015 at 3:56 pm

AK’ji ;
Here is one of a gem of a duet song by Mubarak begum and Rafi from old movie Daera ………Devta tum ho mera sahara…….with Jamal sen as MD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p609uIE2jCk

This song could be a short distant symbolised duet song with prayer as via media . Rafi rendering is very close to Talat’s style .

73 Ravindra Kelkar August 24, 2015 at 5:25 pm

AK ji,
You have put a great emphasis on the number of LDDS songs composed by Naushad & that he was the best. I have a small query on this. Is it because he got an opportunity to score music in these films where the director of the film(or story of the film)created a situation for LDDS or that, after Naushad had created the tune, Naushad suggested that it fits better as an LDDS & then the director of the film created the situation for the song? Generally speaking, as far as my knowledge goes, the director of the film explains the situation of the song to the music composer & then the composer creates the tune to fit the situation. If we accept this logic, then it means that Naushad was lucky to come across 12-15 films having LDDS situation & got opportunity to compose them & this resulted in such a large number of LDDS songs from Naushad. So my view is that, it does not imply other music directors were incapable of creating similar quality & quantity of LDDS tunes ( I may be wrong, but in your comments, you imply that Naushad had a unique talent for LDDS tunes).

74 arvindersharma August 24, 2015 at 5:57 pm

AK Ji,
Another excellent article and a thought provoking one, LDDS being a part of film folklore, but a less discussed subject.
The song which I liked immensely from your list was Kaisse baje dil ka sitar, for me a first time hearing.
The regulars at SoY have given many great LDDS, but I was wondering as to why everyone ignored some of the erlswhile stalwarts, who were prominent at the vintage/golden era juncture, but faded later on.
AK Ji,
Relishing your challenge to compile at least ten songs per composer, here I start with Ghulam Mohammed.
1 Bhigi palkein utha from Do Gunde, Rafi Lata

https://youtu.be/whuQAX2zNVY

2 Aansoo thi meri zindagi from Bikhre Moti, Amirbai and Rafi.

https://youtu.be/3_btDuLeq7A

3 Duniya me nahi koi yaar from Amber, Rafi Lata

https://youtu.be/k9VVIfLORHY

4 Teri yaad aa rahi hai from Hazaar Raatein, Rafi Asha.

https://youtu.be/hjaheXZ7F7A

5 Aasman waale teri duniya se jee ghabra gaya, from Laila Majnu, Lata Talat

https://youtu.be/EGNFi0XStf8

6 Taaron bhari raat hai from Kaajal, Suraiyya Rafi

https://youtu.be/gCc45_d1L3k

7 Dile nadaan tujhe hua kya hai

75 arvindersharma August 24, 2015 at 6:35 pm

Continuing,
but my first comment is awaiting moderation, and my seven songs are stuck there.

https://youtu.be/rQfQlSaUMt4

8 Ek bewafa ko dil ka sahara samajh liya from Ajeeb Ladki, Lata Talat.

https://youtu.be/6-oHEQTLizI

9 Baharon Ki duniya pukare Tu aaja from Laila Majnu, Asha Talat

https://youtu.be/GPWF9O8P2u8

10 Dekh li ae Ishq teri meharbani Dekh li from Laila Majnu, Asha Talat

https://youtu.be/ByfGwumZjbQ

11 Hazaron pyar karte hain, nibhana Kisko aata hai from Shayari, Mukesh and Lata

https://youtu.be/4kCNpZuCdAw

12 Dil le ke chupne wale Tu hai Kahan bata de from Paras, Rafi Lata

https://youtu.be/IgxzuIttSQg

76 AK August 24, 2015 at 7:59 pm

Dinesh,
Excellent LDDS.

KS Bhatiaji,
A very good song. I think, physical separation is important to qualify as LDDS.

77 AK August 24, 2015 at 8:17 pm

Ravindra Kelkar,
If I have given the impression that Naushad has unique talent for creating LDDS, that needs to be corrected. I agree with you that it is more the case that he got such opportunities. One thing can be granted about him without any controversy that he had a very high percentage of creating songs that became landmarks. We have seen a large number of LDDS by SJ, obviously because he was very prolific. Now seeing Arvinder Sharmaji’s list, I have to place Ghulam Mohammad very high.

Arvinder Sharmaji’s,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. You have made a very timely mention of Ghulam Mohammad. He was out of everyone’s radar screen, we all thought of SJ. Now, seeing your list, at least six songs – Bheegi palkein utha, Aansoo thi meri zindagi, Duniya mein nahi hai pyar, Aasmanwale teri duniya she jee ghabara gaya, Baharon ki duniya pukare tu aa ja, Dil-e-Nadan tujhe hua kya hai would rank as high as the best given by any composer, including Naushad. I would rate him as a more worthy challenger than SJ.

78 ksbhatia August 24, 2015 at 11:26 pm

Arvinder sharma’ji;

Thanks for coming up with such a wonderful hidden songs of a worthy Asstt MD of Naushad sahib , throwing a challenge to all of us in one go . I think I have to orient myself and focus on such hidden gems of Ghulam Mohd.

79 arvindersharma August 25, 2015 at 12:14 am

AK Ji,
Thanks for your kind words. But of the remaining six, at least four are my very favorites.
Now coming back to another stalwart of the same era, I’m presenting ten LDDS of Husnlal Bhagatram.
1 Sun mere saajna from Aansoo, Rafi Lata

https://youtu.be/bldCXykhVTY

2 Paas aake hue Hum door from Meena Bazaar, Rafi Lata

https://youtu.be/y-Su8_tNjdY

3 Khushi ka zamana gaya from Choti Bhabhi, Rafi Lata

https://youtu.be/pWATAkhkzXg

4 Beqarar hai koi from Shama Parwana, Suraiyya Rafi

https://youtu.be/elVtl9yjEy8

5 Tum aankhon se door from Mirza Sahibaan, Noorjahan GM Durrani

https://youtu.be/q6yDym1TDOU

6 Ae Ishq hamein barbaad na kar from Naach, Suraiyya Rafi

https://youtu.be/DYHfYxGEkgw

7 Apna bana ke chod nahi Jana from Meena Bazaar, Rafi Lata

https://youtu.be/gPbIlzc5KZI

8 Duniya hai barbaad dil Ki from Meena Bazaar, Rafi Lata

https://youtu.be/MEq4YsSAaPs

9 Har dam tumhi ko pyar Kiye ja rahi hoon main from Apsara, Asha Talat

https://youtu.be/IRdjm8YT73I

10 Hamein duniya ko dil ke zakhm dikhlana nahi aata from Aadhi Raat, Rafi Lata

https://youtu.be/QOLjKPiwkH0

These songs, I feel are just a notch below Ghulam Mohammed’s compositions, but melodious they are.
The beauty of some of the songs is that they are very rarely heard, virtually a discovery for someone unfamiliar but infatuated with vintage era music, like me.
And thanks Bhatia Ji for your appreciation, I truly cherish it, Sir.
And I should thank you again AK Ji, as preparing these lists made me aware of so many rare gems, and adding them to my playlists was an additional pleasure.

80 mumbaikar8 August 25, 2015 at 6:10 am

AK,
Ghulam Mohammed is giving tough fight after shramaji’s onslaught!
Mahesh had added one gem too Shair’s yeh duniya hai.

I am sorry I cannot help in locating songs pre 1945. As for me Golden era is 1951 to 1965 from 1945 to 1950 it is the uphill crossover and 1965 to 1970 downhill crossover, there are good songs in earlier and later period but I would not invest my time because the returns are not as lucrative.
Pre 1945 songs I like to enjoy when I get it on the platter:)

Arvindersharmaji,
Kya baat hai der aaye durust aaye!

81 AK August 25, 2015 at 7:40 am

KS Bhatiaji,
‘Worthy assistant of Naushad’ sounds patronising and minimises Ghulam Mohammad. He was highly talented and several years senior to Naushad in the industry, but it was a quirk of fate that the movies failed, in spite of outstanding music, and he had to assist Naushad concurrently with his independent assignments. I am his huge admirer.

Arvinder Sharmaji,
Sun mere saajana re is among the tops of tops. Rest of the songs require discovery. So I am not sure how close we treat HB, but Ghulam Mohammad is there with Naushad. SJ are there because of numbers, but I would put them in the next bracket on impact. You do deserve thanks for highlighting Ghulam Mohammad.

Mumbaikar8,
Now the Holy Grail is the earliest LDDS, therefore you have to go to pre-1942. Being the Master Explorer on the SoY, you can do it. Sean Connery and Harrison Ford didn’t bother about the rewards.

82 Mahesh August 25, 2015 at 12:11 pm

Arvinder Sharma ji,
Naushad, Ghulam Mohammed and HB are all kingmakers of melody.
Though I was aware of most of these songs, its sort of news that they belong to LDDS category since I often listened to them rather watch the video clips.
All Mohd. Rafi-Lata duets for HB are on a very high platform.
Many Thanks for the discovery.

83 arvindersharma August 25, 2015 at 1:53 pm

AK Ji,
Thanks once again for your appreciation.
I have really liked Beqarar hai moi, Paas aake hue Hum door, Hardam tumhi ko pyar, Hamein duniya ko dil ke zakhm and Apna bana ke out of these songs. Some of the other songs, like ones from Choti Bhabhi, Naach and Mirza Sahibaan seem good to me. But once again, musical preferences are very personal and vary from one to another.
Mumbaikar8,
Shair song is a rare Mukesh gem from GM, and I included that one as well in my list at 11, though it was Mahesh Ji, who mentioned it first.
Now AK Ji,
I’ll list some of the CR numbers to see where he stands in this scrutiny.

1 Humko tumhara Hi aasra, from Saajan, Lalita. Deulkar Rafi

https://youtu.be/RJIL6e9ECBc

2 Tu chupi hai Kahan, from Navrang, Manna De Asha

https://youtu.be/alfm4VgXyKg

3 Veeran mera dil hai, from Literature, Rafi Lata

https://youtu.be/kNnd7yjc2do

4 Tadpa ke mujhe ab chorr diya from Namoona, by Rafi Lata

https://youtu.be/v2FA_zpA8gk

5 Tum apni yaad bhi dil se from Yasmin by Lata Talat

https://youtu.be/I6pfi8eSbu0

6 Kise maloom tha ik ‘din mohabbat from Saqi, Lata Talat

https://youtu.be/qNPptEgKiws

7 Mohabbat me aise zamane bhi aaye from Sagai, Lata Talat

https://youtu.be/JDeY98tYlkI

8 Mere dil Ki ghadi kare tik tik tik from Albela, Chitalkar Lata

https://youtu.be/UX_IRnhQKI4

9 Ae aankh Ab na Rona from Sipahiya, Chitalkar Lata

https://youtu.be/mqoN54ivZAE

10 Dekh Hame aawaz na dena, the sad version of the song from Amardeep, Rafi Asha

https://youtu.be/k2WnyPgfqUQ

AK Ji, if I couldn’t convince you with my HB ten, I think this compilation is some food for thought.
Mahesh Ji,
Thanks for being on the same page as me.
I’ll try to bother the SoY readers with one more collection, and that will be another surprise.
One song, a great CR Lata duet could not be accommodated here for technical reasons.
It’s the gem from Nadaan.
Aisa kya qusoor kiya, and the reason being the name of the composer, Chik Chocolate, who was the assistant to C Ramchandra, and credited as the MD of Nadaan.

84 AK August 25, 2015 at 2:28 pm

Arvinder Sharmaji,
CR list is very impressive with the following songs:
1. Humko tumhara hi aasra
2. Mohabbat mein aise zamane bhi aaye
3. Dekh humein aawaz na dena
4. Kise maaloom tha ek din
5. Tu chhupi hai kahan
6.
Tum apni yaad bhi dil se
7. Ae aankh ab na rona

Mere dil ki ghadi – the lyrics are light-hearted, the entire mood in Albela was joyous. Therefore, though the song is nice to listen to, as all the songs of the films were, I would not like to put it in the category of great LDDS.

On HB, I will have to listen to the songs again carefully.

One general problem is that in many songs videos are not available, and we are inferring on the basis of lyrics.

Some readers don’t like the idea of ranking. If you don’t have strong objections, my ranking so far is as follows:
1. Naushad
2. Ghulam Mohammad
3-4. Shankar-Jaikishan and C Ramchandra

Thanks a lot again for your comments.

85 arvindersharma August 25, 2015 at 2:31 pm

AK Ji,
Veeran mera dil hai is from Lutera and the typo error is regretted

86 arvindersharma August 25, 2015 at 4:19 pm

AK Ji,
When I went about compiling these lists from my memory, cassettes and YouTube respectively, I was surprised to find some excellent LDDS from relatively lesser known and a couple of unknown composers, and it was a sad feeling to know that such beautiful compositions and the creators are consigned to the dustbin of history.
If you permit me. I’ll put some compositions, a fair number, in my further comments.
I agree with your observation about Mere dil Ki ghadi kare tik tik tik that it’s a light hearted song, and not an LDDS.
Mumbaikar8.
I forgot to acknowledge your very encouraging comments of appreciation.
Many thanks for the same.

87 AK August 25, 2015 at 4:50 pm

Arvinder Sharmaji,
Please go ahead. But if we get the videos, that would be superb.

88 ksbhatia August 25, 2015 at 11:21 pm

AK’ji ;

I entirely agree with you . Ghulam mohd had Identity of his own, only fate was the hunter . His contribution to hindi films was immense . With no ill will, I take my words back .

89 ksbhatia August 25, 2015 at 11:31 pm

Arvinder sharma’ji;
First G M , then H B and now C R . What a collection ! Really amazing ! I think your store must be like Alladin’s ; only you know how to whisper ” khulja sim sim ” .

90 arvindersharma August 25, 2015 at 11:44 pm

AK Ji,
Another compilation of ten songs, the MD being another stalwart composer, Anil Biswas.

1 Baar baar tum soch rahe ho, from Girl’s School, Shankar Dasgupta Lata

https://youtu.be/drzZo9vSEXc

2 Pee bin soona ri from Hamdard, Manna De Lata

https://youtu.be/Gpw7Pq_SDvA

3 Seene me sulagte hain ‘armaan from Tarana, Lata Talat

https://youtu.be/nk_0ML7iuVE

4 O saajna, choota hai jo daman Tera from Heer, Lata Hemant

https://youtu.be/bgFWQmXY_GI

5 Zamane ka dastoor hai ye purana from Laajawab, Lata Mukesh

https://youtu.be/7z33QTl-erU

6 Ab yaad na kar bhool ja from Anokha Pyar, Mukesh Lata

https://youtu.be/8wOuyNk-CmE

7 Aa jao tumhe dil ka afsana from Heer, Rafi Asha

https://youtu.be/oysDUDR4MKo

8 Dil hai beqaraar kyon from Jalti Nishani, Lata Mukesh

https://youtu.be/Hc9GueI8JhE

9 Aa mohabbat Ki basti basayenge hum from Fareb, Lata Kishore

https://youtu.be/WtpOamH2Rkw

10 Zindagi ka ajab afsana hai from Choti Choti Baatein, Mukesh Lata

https://youtu.be/f1FttHqB–8

I was a bit sceptical about posting Dil hai beqaraar kyon, because I felt that it is both cheerful and sad, but I leave the judgement to you and SoY readers.
Another aspect of Anil Biswas’s music is the variety of male singers, virtually all the top male singers of the golden era along with Lata, Asha and Geeta Dutt are there in the LDDS.
My only regret is that I could not do justice to the vintage era singers due to my lack of awareness.
Bhatia Ji,
Thanks again for your special words of appreciation. It’s a real pat on my back and I love it, Sir.

91 Jignesh Kotadia August 26, 2015 at 1:01 am

Akji
the visuals of these great Roshan songs are not available on YT but it seems they would be LDDSs.

1. Mat chhed zindagi ke khamosh taar so ja
Dil e beqarar so ja (RaagRang)

2. Falak milega tujhe kya hame mitane se
Ke muhabbat na mitegi kabhi zamaane se
(Ghar Ghar Me Diwali)

His “Jo wada kiya wo” is already an ultimate LDDS. I havent seen video of “kahan ho tum zara aawaz do” of Malhar so i dont know whether it is an ldds or not.

92 Jignesh Kotadia August 26, 2015 at 1:25 am

Sharmaji
you have unleashed the ldds bundles one by one so sweetly !! Wah wah

93 AK August 26, 2015 at 6:13 am

Arvinder Sharmaji,
Another very good compilation. In most songs where video is not available, we are left to guess.

Jignesh,
Roshan is another extremely melodious composer. His best compares with the best of any composer.

Now we need to look at the best of Khayyam, Madan Mohan, Chitragupta.

To all,
While we search the earliest LDDS, is there a last LDDS? There has to be one, because I can’t visualise LDDS fitting in current movies.

94 mumbaikar8 August 26, 2015 at 6:48 am

AK,
Is this closest we can get to LDDS in recent times?
I do not watch latest movies, nor do I watch promos.
Can you consider this one from Guru, this is the latest I can think about.
Oh humdum bin ter kya jeena.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ_oCGYxPSk

95 AK August 26, 2015 at 9:49 am

Mumbaikar8,
But in the dream sequence they are together. Good song, but does not seem to be a good LDDS. So our search on both ends continues.

96 arvind August 26, 2015 at 10:15 am

sharing
https://youtu.be/NL83GRm5bjQ

jab bhi ye dil udas hota hai/seema/1971/rafi+sharda/SJ/gulzar

97 Ravindra Kelkar August 26, 2015 at 3:50 pm

Arvinder Sharmaji,
Hats off to you, for coming up with these lists for various MDs. Very impressive indeed. After listening to most of the songs from your compilation, I unhesitatingly rank ABs songs as number one, (that too by some distance) assuming they qualify as LDDS & CR songs as number two.

98 arvindersharma August 26, 2015 at 8:58 pm

AK Ji,
Many thanks for your appreciation again.
Jignesh,
Mat ched zindagi ke, Falak milega tujhe mentioned by you and Kahan ho tum by Mahesh Ji, composed by Roshan are my ever favorites.
Many thanks for your Wah Wah !
It’s a Jignesh Kotadia trademark on SoY and loved by all.
Ravindra Kelkar Ji,
Many thanks for your words of appreciation.
Comparative analysis of these LDDS is a very subjective matter, and personal preference plays a great role in determining the best.
I feel that Naushad’s plus point as well as a handicap was his popularity, as readers here, and the common music listeners are much aware of his works, whereas others like AB, GM or HB present a pleasant surprise, because of the unknown quality of their work.
Will come back with some more in a day or two.

99 Hans August 27, 2015 at 11:16 pm

Yet another innovative idea which has brought interested response from fellow readers and Arvinder Sharma has excelled them all. Naushad was truly a master of sad songs so LDDS has to be his strength. But, I would agree with Dinesh and Anu that instead of quantity, quality should be taken into account because the situations are not in the control of the MDs. I here give LDDS from other MDs, This list contains 3 by Chitragupta. One from him has been mentioned by Bhatiaji. All the four are absolute gems, which emphasises the need to look at quality.

1. Man ki gagaria men tu chamka – Piya Milan Ki Aas – SN Tripathi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvfgFonNeiQ
2. Zara samne to aa o chhaliye – Janam Janam Ke Phere – SN Tripathi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtX8KCqGp7Q
3. Jise banana use mitana kaam tera – Shiv Bhakta – Chitragupta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZNIG6tX1bI
4. Mehlon ne chheen liya – Zabak – Chitragupta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akYb_46sMrk
5. Laagi chhoote na ab to sanam – Kali Topi Lal Rumal – Chitragupta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCf86_drVt8
6. Tum rooth ke mat jana – Phagun – OP Nayyar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxCJUCGb2_c
7. Wo jab yad aaye bahut yad aaye – Parasmani – Laxmi-Pyare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJti8tOpG0o

to be continued

100 Hans August 27, 2015 at 11:29 pm

continued
Now there are three from Ravi
1. Mujhe gale se laga lo – Aaj Aur Kal – Ravi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjlS6rB_t3Y
2. Kabira nirbhaya ram jape – Kaajal – Ravi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIKK6FJWaTM
3. Tumhari nazar kyun khafa – Do Kaliyan – Ravi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No9tYskTDzI

In addition to these there are four different type of LDDS listed below
1. Pyas kuchh aur bhi bhadkadi – Lala Rukh – Khayyam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbFzujRgUSM
2. Hum intejar karenge tera – Bahu Begum – Roshan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dnwrerQoRQ
3. Sajna sath nibhana – Doli – again from Ravi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWHe7NOg7_w
4. Rafta rafta wo hamare – Hum Kahan Ja Rahe Hain – Basant Prakash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_cAULXN0jg

101 Hans September 2, 2015 at 6:04 pm

I posted a number of songs, but nobody seems to be interested. Not even a formal acknowledgement. Perhaps they were not upto the level of those posted by others. I had more than a dozen others lined up, but I have held them back.

102 Jignesh Kotadia September 3, 2015 at 1:13 am

Akji,
a recent effective LDDS i could remember is from “Rang de basanti”(2006), which is a very painful duet of Mother and her dead Son.
sung by Lataji and ARRahman.

Luka chhupi bahot hui..saamne aaja na
kahan kahan dhundha tujhe
thak gai hai ab teri maa
aaja saanjh hui mujhe teri fikar
dhundhla gai dekh meri nazar aaja na..

Kya bataoon maa.. kahan hoon main
Yahan udne ko mere khula aasmaan hai
Tere kisso jaisa bhola salona jahaan hain yahan sapno vala
Meri patang ho befikar ud rahi hai maa
Dor koi loote nahin beech se kaate na

103 gaddeswarup September 3, 2015 at 5:19 am

Hansji at #101. Yesterday I was about to listen to some of those songs but got caught up in lengthy articles about refugees in Europe and China financial crisis. It takes time to listen to them and assimilate in the general context(s) of the posts which sometimes change in the course of the comments. I do not have enough knowledge of films or Hindi to comment meaningfully, but I have been following many of these links to songs that I have not been aware of. I do not think that these links will be wasted.

104 AK September 3, 2015 at 2:29 pm

Jignesh,
‘Playful’? – it is poignant. Not exactly an LDDS, because it is an atmospheric song, and the mother and the body of the son are at the same place.

105 ksbhatia September 3, 2015 at 11:19 pm

Hans ‘ji @ 101 , Both you and Arvinder sharmaji must be having a very strong suction pump. Since most of the gems and jewels have gone in their booty I have to look at places where by chance I had got it hidden them from myself. Hans ji , here are a few songs from Ravi, Chitragupt and others ;of course some of them must have appeared in the long list of comments .

1. Rangeen fiza hai……. MK and Ashaji….Ravi…..Bahu beti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gb08RGgGrI
2.Mehlon ne cheen liya……Mukesh, Lataji…..Chitragupt……Zabak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akYb_46sMrk
3.Woh jab yaad aaye……Lata, Rafi…..LP…..Parasmani
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJti8tOpG0o
4. Chhupa lo dil mein yun pyar mera……Hemant, lata …Roshan…Mamta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXgKgZt9Jik
5.Neend na mujhko aaye……Hemant, lata…KA….Post box999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG3i3InLEUo
6.Tumhen yaad hoga ….Hemant, Lata…. KA….Satta bazar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByS-vbeocUM
7′.Aaj ki raat badi ….Rafi, asha….Roshan… Nai umar ki nai fasal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHGVFi1vMo0

AK’ji,
I am posting two songs as , third angle duet songs, which are a deviation from the original and still are part of the main theme .
1.Ja Ja re Ja saajna……Lata, Asha….MM….Adalat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoG9ZY8pMjU
2.Chali kaun se desh…..Asha, Talat…..SJ…..Boot polish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUgDuvdkmbk

Do they fall or fit in ?

106 mumbaikar8 September 4, 2015 at 6:36 am

Hans,
You are fond of cricket, you should know that a ton registered after double century goes unnoticed. It is you bad timing that you posted your songs after Sharmaji so do not blame us.:)
Holding dozen songs back? Isn’t this बचकाना:) we are all matured adults and should not behave like children:)
Let us get the remaining twelve.

107 AK September 4, 2015 at 10:48 pm

Jignesh,
Ref your last comment. How could I be so blind! Noticed your ‘painful’.

108 ksbhatia September 4, 2015 at 11:58 pm

….in continuation of#105 , one duet from Barsaat by Lata and Mukesh……
chhod gaye balam mera pyar bhara dil tod gaye……SJ’s first movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8i2d9lWFHs

109 Jignesh Kotadia September 5, 2015 at 12:08 am

🙂 🙂 perhaps you were in a hurry

110 Hans September 9, 2015 at 12:34 am

Mumbaikar8,
Thanks for the friendly advice. But, I dont feel bachkana in saying anything when talking with my fellow SoY readers whom I consider part of the family.

Here is my additional list.

1. Piya kaise milun tujhse – Saranga – Lata, Rafi – Sardar Malik
2. Tere bin soone nayan – Meri Surat Teri Ankhen – Lata, Rafi – SDB
3. Aaja aaja tera intezaar hai – Saza – Talat, Lata – SDB
4. Chandni raten pyar ki baten – Jaal – Lata, Hemant – SDB
5. Kismat men bichhadna tha – Shabnam – Geeta, Mukesh – SDB
6. Chahe paas ho chahe door ho – Samrat Chandragupta – Lata, Rafi-KA
7. Dil todne wale yaad rahe – Namoona – Lata, Rafi – CR
8. Nai zindagi se pyar karke dekh – Shikast – Lata, Rafi – SJ
9. Apni nazar se door wo – Bazaar – Lata, Rafi – Shyam Sunder
10. Aapse humko bichhade hue – Vishwas – Manhar, Suman – LP
11. Main is paar tu us paar – Agnirekha – Lata, Rafi – KA

Now there are 3 happy LDDS
12. Do ankhiyan jhuki jhuki si – Prempatra – Lata, Mukesh – Salil
13. Itna to yaad hai mujhe – Mehboob ki Mehndi – Lata, Rafi – LP
14. Ye zulf kaisi hai – Piya Ka Ghar – Lata, Rafi – LP
15. Loji sunlo tumse kahte hain – Sunehre din – Mukesh, Surinder Kaur – Gyan Dutt (In this film Rehana listens to the record of Raj Kapoor, who is a singer, and sings with the record and thus it becomes a duet).
16. Tere ghar ke samne ik ghar – Tere Ghar Ke Samne – Lata, Rafi – SDB (In this song Dev Anand sings with a peg in hand and sees Nutan in the wine replying to his singing. This should qualify as LDDS)
17. There is another similar song Ankhiyon ka noor hai tu from Johar Mehmood In Goa (music KA) where Sonia Sahni sings in the voice of Suman and Johar is shown as moving as a Flower and singing in the voice of Mukesh.

111 mumbaikar8 September 9, 2015 at 5:30 pm

Hans,
Thanks for taking it as a friendly advice.
बहुत देर कर दी मेहरबान आते आते, my stress level was rising:)
I was looking for SDB LDDS, you have come out with four of them.

112 Hans September 11, 2015 at 10:01 pm

Mumbaikar8,
Sorry for the delay. I am a little busy these days. SDB’s ‘aaja panchhi akela hai’ is also quite close, because for the most part the hero sings in the bathroom and the heroine in the room or outside.

There is another one from Nashad ‘mohabbat ki bas itni’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRn8-0vZ-eo

I think if a list of best 20 is made out, very few of Naushad’s LDDS would be included.

113 ksbhatia September 12, 2015 at 12:11 am

Hans ji;
A great listing of Sad and happy duets . Include…. Phool tumehen bhaija hai khat mein …. in the happy catg.

114 Mahesh September 13, 2015 at 4:24 pm

Lata-Rafi in Gaban 1966.
I am not sure if anyone has posted it earlier.

https://youtu.be/nwBvPQln1ik

115 AK September 13, 2015 at 7:25 pm

Mahesh,
Fits the theme perfectly. Thanks.

116 Mahesh September 15, 2015 at 11:11 am

https://youtu.be/iyaSVRmT9TE
Mukesh-Lata in Pardesi.

117 AK September 15, 2015 at 2:25 pm

Mahesh,
Not only a perfect LDDS, but also right among the tops.

118 Mahesh September 15, 2015 at 3:05 pm

I am sorry. The MD is Pardesi and the duet is from the 1960 film “Banjaran”.

119 ksbhatia September 15, 2015 at 11:35 pm

AK’ji;

Mil ke bhi hum mil na sake…….. Talat, Lataji …..from Sunhari nagin….. KA as MDs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_XI7lSjS3A

120 AK September 16, 2015 at 6:46 am

KS Bhatiaji,
Good song. Very awkward actors.

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