Ode to the Great Indian Family

24 March 2016

Wishing a very Happy Holi to everyone

Great Indian FamilyHoli was the time when one went to one’s ‘native’ place – everyone belonged to a place where he came from. In the olden days, going to the native place might involve using multimodal transport – by train to the nearest railhead, from there by bus, and the last mile by tonga, bullock cart, tractor-trailer or foot. ‘Native’ places are disappearing fast. We might have a job or be located somewhere, but we do not belong to any place.

Holi was an eagerly awaited occasion when all the cousins and uncles and aunts converged at the native place. Indians are a large extended family. West has one generic Uncle. We have at least five – Chacha (father’s younger brother), Taau (father’s elder brother), Mama (mother’s brother), Mausa (mother’s sister’s husband), Phoofa (father’s sister’s husband). The relations need not be related by blood or marriage. Every neighbour, plus minus 10 years of father’s age, is a Chacha (the most famous being Nehru Chacha). Below this range, they would be Bhaiya, and above, Baba. Same with the ladies, who would be Chachi, Mausi, Kaaki, Bhabhi or Dadi, depending on the difference in age from the person establishing the relationship. While neighbourhood vendors calling you as Bhaiya or Didi sounds endearing, you may find being gradually addressed as Uncle or Auntie, which is a signal that you are not getting younger. Hindi films do a good job of having songs for most of these relations. Let me wish Happy Holi to all the readers with songs of the Great Indian Family.

1. Ma: Tu kitni achhi hai kitni pyari hai

Mere paas Ma hai – the most famous four words ever uttered on the film screen shows the pinnacle the Ma occupies among all the relations. In contrast, what is the best Hollywood has to offer? Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn. Pooh! Bollywood Ma is loving, caring and all sacrificing. But she is also a Divine Goddess who, like Durga slaying the demon, would not hesitate to shoot her dearest son to establish the Good over the Evil (Mother India, Deewar). If I were to select the best Ma song, I would probably put Mat ro mata laal tere bahutere (Bandini) at the top. But Tu kitni achhi hai kitni pyari hai is a more appropriate ode to the quintessential Bollywood Mother, Nirupa Roy, whose only blemish was that she was a bit careless, often losing her children in a crowded fair or natural calamity, who would reunite in the last reel after a great deal of ordeal. In Raja Aur Rank, too, there is a mix-up, but for once she is not to blame; the prince and the pauper decide on their own to swap places, thinking life to be greener on the other side.

Tu kitni achhi hai by Lata Mangeshkar from Raja Aur Rank (1968), lyrics Anand Baxi, music Laxmikant Pyarelal

2. Father: Papa kahte hain bada naam karega

Fathers stand nowhere compared to the mothers. The mothers, too, missed no chance to rub it in. Even on her deathbed, the mother would tell her grieving husband to not only look after ‘her’ son like a father but to give him Ma ka pyar (Saza). A father can dote on the daughter, but with the son he is stern, always pestering him about what he proposed to do in life, and when he would settle down to doing something useful. If the father loved the son it was hidden beneath his tough exterior. In many films, it would not be until the very last scene when he would embrace the son with a heart-rending Beta (Awara). Papa kahte hain, lip-synched by Aamir Khan at a college stage function, describes a typical father who hopes his son would bring name and fame to the family, while the son declares he is more concerned with the matters of heart.

Papa kahte hain bada naam karega by Udit Narayan from Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak (1988), music Anand-Milind

3. Beta (son): Chanda hai tu mera suraj hai tu

Chanda hai tu mera suraj hai tu is the reciprocal of Tu kitni achhi hai kitni pyari hai. The unwed mother Sharmila Tagore seeks employment in Abhi Bhattacharya’s household who has adopted her abandoned child from the orphanage, so that she could shower all her motherly love on the child. Aradhana is a landmark film which marked the transition from the Old to the New era of music with the resurgence of a new Kishore Kumar and decline of the stalwarts like Rafi, SJ and Naushad.

Chanda hai tu mera suraj hai tu by Lata Mangeshkar from Aradhana (1969), lyrics Anand Baxi, music SD Burman

4. Beti (daughter): Mahalon ka raja mila ki rani beti raaj karegi

The sole concern about the Beti was to get her married. It was quite common to hear the father, after having married off all his daughters, proclaim with great relief that now all his liabilities were over. The midwife would be embarrassed if a daughter was born, and she would comfort the family, अगली बार सब ठीक हो जायेगा. The daughters, understanding the situation, often agreed to unwelcome marriages. Today, such fathers would be berated for being so gender-insensitive. Zahida, lip-synching this poignant song composed by Roshan, beautifully expresses the situation.

Mahlon ka raja mila by Lata Mangeshkar from Anokhi Raat (1968), lyrics Indivar, music Roshan

5. Dadi (Father’s mother): Dadi amma dadi amma maan jao

Mothers, with all their household chores, could be at times nagging and irritable with the children. But Dadi is always loving, telling bedtime stories and giving them protection from the mother’s wrath. Even Lalita Pawar can be a playful Dadi.

Dadi amma dadi amma maan jao by Asha Bhosle and Kamal Barot from Gharana (1961), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni, music Ravi

6. Baba (Father’s father): Baba man ki ankhen khol

The best Baba song is without doubt this KC Dey classic.

Baba man ki ankhen khol by KC Dey from Dhhop Chhaon (1935), lyrics Pt Sudarshan, music RC Boral

7. Nani (Mother’s mother): Nani teri morni ko mor le gaye

Nanis are the other side of Dadis. You would go to Dadi or Nani place for vacation. Whether you visited one or the other more depended on the family’s relationships and logistics. Nani teri morni ko mor le gaye is one of the legendary children songs, sung by Ranu Mukherji, the daughter of Hemant Kumar when she was 6 years old. This must be one of the rare children songs by a real child, because mostly we get children songs in the voice of Lata Mangeshkar or other female singers.

Nani teri morni ko mor le gaye by Ranu Mukherji from Masoom (1960), lyrics Shailendra, music Robin Banerji and Hemant Kumar

8. Nana (Mother’s father)

I have not yet come across a proper Nana song. Na na karte pyar tumhi se kar baithe would not pass even as a PJ. I am sure the knowledgeable readers would be able to find one.

9. Mama (mother’s brother): O natkhat nanhi ladli tujhe dekhe tera mama chanda mama

Since I have decided not to use Na na karte pyar as a Nana song, I would refrain from using Re mama re mama re, which instantly comes to mind, as a Mama song. Mama can be almost as loving as Ma; the beautiful Chanda (moon)’s metaphor as a Mama shows the high regard Mama has in the Great Indian Family. (Strangely, there is another aspect of Mama or Mamu – as an object of ridicule in Hindi films, especially, with regard to the bumbling cops.) There are many outstanding Mama or Chanda Mama songs in Hindi films. O natkhat nanhi ladli tujhe dekhe is charming for its picturisation – the mother Padmini trying to feed her unwilling small daughter ward Baby Rani, invoking that Chanda mama is watching her. The little girl makes Padmini around and also do sit ups. The three dacoits – Pran, Ajit and Anwar – also cannot help being moved by this loving scene.  (Please see comment #51 by Sandeep Pahwa for a description of this scene.)

O natkhat nanhi ladli tujhe dekhe by Lata Mangeshkar, from Nanha Farishta (1969), lyrics Sahir Ludhiyanavi, music Kalyanji Anandji

10. Bahan (Sister): Meri chhoti si bahan

After the mother, she is the most loving relation. You can share your secrets with her which you would be hesitant to do with the parents. She can also be helpful in love affairs, carrying love letters to and fro between the hero and the heroine. At times, the love interest is the saheli of the sister. Given the importance of sisters, Hindi films cover the whole range of them – starting from KL Saigal’s My Sister (1944), you have Badi Bahan (1949), Chhoti Bahan (1959), Do Bahne (1959), Didi (1959), Majhli Didi (1967), Badi Didi (1969) etc. Besides pursuing his love interest, the other major concern of the hero Bhaiya is to see his sister getting properly married. The representative song of this genre is Meri pyari bahaniya banegi dulhaniya, but as a piece of music the best song for the chhoti bahan is this beautiful duet.

Mere chhoti si bahan dekho gahne pahan by Lata Mangeshkar and Geeta Dutt from Toofan Aur Diya (1956), lyrics Bharat Vyas, music Vasant Desai

11. Didi (Elder sister): Sun sun didi tere liye

When the marriage proposal comes for the Didi, she would be bashful. But the younger sister has no such constraints; it is left to her to express exuberance with this teasing song.

Sun sun didi tere liye ek rishta aya hai by Asha Bhosle from Khoobsoorat (1980), lyrics Gulzar, music RD Burman

12. Bhaiya (Elder brother): Rakhiya bandha la bhaiya

Rakhi is a festival of great importance in large parts of India, symbolising the protective relationship between the brother and the sister. Tying Rakhi by the sister on her brother’s wrist is one of the enduring images in our films. The most well known song in the genre is Bhaiya mere rakhi ke bandhan ko nibhana from the film Chhoti Bahan. I presume everyone knows this song, therefore, I am presenting Rakhiya bandha la bhaiya from the Bhojpuri film Laagi Nahi Chhute Raam. Early 60s saw the emergence of Bhojpuri films whose distinguishing feature was music by the great melody maker Chitragupt. Despite belonging to a region, his melodious music made the songs of this, and other Bhojpuri films of the period, all-India super hits.

Rakhiya bandha la bhaiya by Lata Mangeshkar from Laagi Naahi Chhute Ram (1963), lyrics Majrooh Sultanpuri, music Chitragupta

13. Bhabhi (Elder brother’s wife): Meri ayin hain teen bhabhiyan

Some actresses past the heroine’s age, but too young to be a mother, chose to be a Bhabhi in the interim. Some were always considered more appropriate for a Bhabhi (or a Bahan role) – from this originated the pejorative word, Bahanji type, on campuses, to describe girls who were not considered mod enough. Very often, if there was a big difference in the age of two brothers, and if they had lost their parents at a young age, Bhaiya and Bhabhi were surrogate father and mother to the hero. This stereotype Bhabhi emerged in the 60’s in what were called “Mahaan paarivarik film” in posters. The Bhabhi could also be a vamp like Shashikala, and later Bindu, whose soul aim in life was to sow discord in the family. Ekta Kapoor presented some monstrous Bhabhis in her soaps stretching your credulity.  Dev Anand’s debut movie Hum Ek Hain seems to be the original Amar Akbar Anthony. Three youngsters belonging to different faiths are brought up by Durga Khote as her sons. They marry girls from their respective faiths at the same time. We have a very sweet song in which the Nanad (husband’s sister) is excited to welcome her three Bhabhis. The vintage female singers transport you to another era. Husnlal Bhagatram were the top duo until they were dethroned by Shankar-Jaikishan.

Meri ayi hai teen bhabhiyan by Zohra Ambalewali and Rajkumari from Hum Ek Hain (1946), lyrics PL Santoshi, music Husnlal-Bhagatram

14. Pati (Husband): Tumhi mere mandir tumhi meri pooja tumhi devta ho

There was a golden age, before the feminists were born, when the husband was God. And there were ideal wives like Nirupa Roy and Meena Kumari, who would worship not only a good husband, but also one who was a debauch, alcoholic and uncaring, and sing for him Piya aiso jiya mein samaay gayo re ki main tan man ki sudh budh gawaan baithi. But can anything beat You are my temple, you are my worship, you are the God, you are the God as the ode to the Pati Parmeshwar? Nutan enacts the worshipping wife perfectly. Ravi won the Filmfare award for the best music, and this song befittingly won – and I believe with the blessings of the Husband God – the best female singer award for Lata Mangeshkar and the best lyricist award for Rajendra Krishna

Tumhi mere mandir by Lata Mangeshkar from Khandan (1965), lyrics Rajendra Krishna, music Ravi

15. Patni (Wife): Priye praneshwari hridayeshwari

There is no corresponding obligation on the husband to reciprocate wife’s worship. Wives are the most common butt of jokes after Santa-Banta on WhatsApp. This one has been picturised as a comic song, but Kishore Kumar’s singing, the lyrics, Vinod Khanna’s acting and KA’s music are all outstanding, making this song a treat.

Priye praneshwari by Kishore Kumar from Hum Tum Aur Woh (1971), lyrics Verma Malik, music Kalyanji Anandji

16. Devar (Husband’s younger brother): Haye mora chhota sa devar pukaare

Did you say Didi tera devar deewana? Hum Aapke Hain Kaun covers all sundry relations who surface during the Grand Indian Wedding. It would be disappointing if we could not find any other Devar song, because he has an important place in folk-lore, very different from the mother-son imagery from Sita-Lakshman, and beaten to death in family melodramas from South. Holi is the occasion to push the envelope under the cover of playing colours. Accordingly, Bhojpuri Holi songs, too, stretch the boundaries. In some songs, the lady rues that her piya is in pardes (Calcutta was pardes for Rahi Masoom Raza’s Adha Gaaon), but the devar is too small to share her heart’s desires with. This vintage song about a chhota sa devar is quite clean. He conveys to the new bride Bhaiya’s restlessness and desire to meet her. The lady is helpless because Saas and Nanad are keeping guard.

Baanke nainon se kar ke ishaare haye mora chhota sa devar pukaare by Naseem Akhtar from Tadbeer (1945), lyrics Swami Ramanand Saraswati, music Lal Mohammad

17. Saali (Wife’s sister): Dulhe ki saaliyo hare dupattto waliyo

There is a common saying in North India – Saali aadhi gharwali. You can be sure the Great Indian Wedding video Hum Aapke Hain Kaun would have everything. In a trite marriage custom, the saali’s have hidden the groom’s shoes which they would not return unless they are paid their ritual shagun.

Dulhe ki saaliyo hare dupatte waliyo by SP Balasubramanyam and Lata Mangeshkar from HAHK, music Ram Laxman

18. Samadhi/Samdhan (Parents of son/daughter’s in-laws): Aaj hamare dil me

You may get tired but HAHK has endless supply of relation songs. Who could have thought that there could be a Samadhi/Samdhan song as well? Ignoring the carping critics, the Indian audience made this family wedding video one of the biggest hits ever.

Aaj hamare dil me from HAHK

19. Chacha (Father’s younger brother): John chacha tum kitne achche tumhe pyar karte sab bachche

David was the Chacha before AK Hangal who entered movies rather late. He helps Baby Naaz and Ratan Kumar, the two kids uncared by their aunt and forced into begging, get on with their lives with dignity by taking up boot polish. I have not been able to get a proper video link of the beautiful song John chacha tum kitne achche. The one below is three songs with different slides put together; Raat gayi segues into John chacha song.

John chacha tum kitne achche tumhe pyar karte sab bachche by Asha Bhosle from Boot Polish (1953), music Shankar Jaikishan

20. Chachi (Father’s younger brother’s wife): Chachi akad gayiji

This small kid is witness to the Chachi’s sulking, and Chacha trying to humour her. Panchayat is the film in which Iqbal Qureshi gave an all time great song Ta thaiya karte aana. He is among the composers who did not get their due in the film world commensurate with their talent.

Chachi akad gayi ji chachi bigad gayi by Usha Mangeshkar from Panchayat (1958), lyrics Shakeel Noomani, music Iqbal Qureshi

21. Phoofi/Phoofa (Father’s sister/her husband): Phoofaji zara sach sach kaho

This is amazing, acknowledging Phoofaji and Phoofi – if we do enough research I am sure we would find our films have not left any relation, however uncommon. Mahmood must be a ghar jamai who is being teased by the kids of the house why he is scared of the Phoofi, and why, being a man, he is frightened of a woman.  Lesson to men, being ghar jamai means losing your self-respect.

Phoofaji zara sach sach kaho by Kamal Barot, Krishna Kalle and Mahmood from Purnima (1965), lyrics Prakash Mehra, music Kalyanji Anandji

22. Mausi/Mausa (Mother’s sister/Mother’s sister’s husband): Sun mausa sun mausi

Well, the proof of what I just said turned up on YouTube search. Though I have seen this movie, I had no memory of this song at all.

Sun mausa sun mausi by Vinod Rathod from Virasat (1997), lyrics Javed Akhtar, music Anu Malik

23. Saas: (Mother-in-law): Saas gari deve

Ekta Kapoor, through her supremely inane and insanely popular TV soaps, has caused a great churning in the society by putting Saas-Bahu at the top of all relationships. This song is way outside my period of interest, but based on a folk tune, it has a timeless appeal. You get not only the Saas but Devar, Nanad and the whole lot who make a Bahu’s life quite challenging.

Saas gari deve by Rekha Bharadwaj from Delhi 6 (2009), lyrics Prasson Joshi, music AR Rahman

24. Sasur (Father-in-law): Mera sasura bada paisewala

Some relations have a very ambiguous position in Indian society. For example, father-in-law is as much venerated as father, but at the same time it is also a term of abuse. Reflecting this ambivalence, in several films they are depicted in a comic and irreverent manner. In the 60s, when parallel to the main story you had a comic track, say a bumbling Mukri pursuing Tun Tun, the prospective Sasur was equally idiotic. Later, you can think of Govinda in Dulhe Raja with Kader Khan (Suno sasurji). In Bidai, you have a similar irreverent song, picturised on Jeetendra for Sasura (disrespect magnified) Madan Puri.

Mera sasura bada paisewala by Kishore Kumar from Bidai (1974), lyrics Anand Baxi, music Laxmikant Pyarelal

Songs of Yore family
From the self-declaration, Mr NS Rajan should be the seniormost member of SoY. From the circumstantial evidence, I guess, there are a couple of more octogenarians. Today is the day of hope for you all because it is said होली में बुढ़वा देवर लागे. This, however, does not apply to almost-there Mr Gaddeswarup, unless he keeps himself away from mathematics at least for today. (As the truth-spewing Donald Trump would tell you, women hate mathematics.)

Next in line, Mr DP Rangan, KS Bhatiaji and Arunji are perennial seventeen going on eighteen.  For them every day is Holi. At the other end, Jignesh and Siddharth would like us to believe that they are kids, but we know they have crossed the legal age of ‘Youth’.  The case of our Youth Icon, who is the leader of a prominent political party, is an exception which cannot override the statute.  Other men in between are trying to maintain ambiguity as long as they can.

The good ladies Shalan Lal, Mumbaikar8, Madhu, Anu, Shalini, Pratima, Antara, Aparna and others need not worry that I am going to make any disclosure about them. They are चिरयौवना.

Wishing a very Happy Holi to all the young ladies and youthful men of SoY. Smile

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1 Dinesh K Jain March 24, 2016 at 10:46 am

AK, Happy Holi to you and to the whole SoY family…

Indian family is a most appropriate theme for the Holi day; compliments to you.

Your selection of the theme and songs, along with your narratives, are so unexceptional that one can only sing your tune, but that leaves little room for a discussion, so one must discover or invent some faultlines. Here goes one…

In the iconic K C Dey song, use of ‘Baba’ is not at all in the sense of grandfather, but rather colloquially just as Bhai or Mai or some others. So we still need to find a Baba (or Dada) song besides Nana song.

And a query. Never having seen any Saas-Bahu episodes, I remain ignorant and curious about the sense of the wordings “Sasural gainda phool”, and would welcome enlightenment.

2 AK March 24, 2016 at 11:55 am

Dinesh,
Thanks a lot and wishing you and everyone a very Happy Holi again. On KC Dey song you are right, but I am sure a proper song for the paternal grandfather would turn up. Even a Nana song is missing. We have Dadi-Nani songs. I think this is a sign of the higher status given to women by Bollywood. 🙂

The Saas-Bahu serials would not throw any light on Sasural genda phool. I think it tries to convey that despite all the नोक-झोंक with Saas and Nanad Sasural is an enjoyable place.

3 Subodh Agrawal March 24, 2016 at 12:02 pm

AK, I was looking forward to your usual tongue-in-cheek post on the occasion of Holi, but this is a lot better. I loved each song and your write up about it.

The song ‘Mere ghar aayee ek nanhi pari’ has always been the quintessential daughter song for me, although it does not explicitly mention the word ‘beti’.

Like DK I am also puzzled by ‘Sasural gainda phool’. The best that I can come up with is the marigold flower as a metaphor for a profusion of relatives – marigold having possibly the largest number of petals among popular flowers. I would also like to know what this metaphor really means.

Samdhan finds frequent mention in classical compositions. There is one in Malhar by DV Paluskar, “Aayee samdhan mori”. Unfortunately I couldn’t locate an internet link to it.

Now that you have got the whole SoY family together here is wishing happy Holi to all and request for prayers for the health of my internet connection. It is frustrating to see the posts and not be able to contribute meaningfully.

4 N Venkataraman March 24, 2016 at 12:22 pm

AKji,
Accolades to you for yet another exceptional and distinctive post. Thanks for bringing together all the family members together on the occasion of Holi. It is in our tradition to share our feelings and celebrate together. Thanks for the ‘The Ode to the Great Indian family’.
I was listening to the song on Maa, Tu kitni achhi hai kitni pyari hai. Not only in Bollywood, for everyone of us, I am sure, the typical Indian Maa is epitome of love, care and sacrifice. Maa holds apex position in the Great Indian family hierarchy. Kailash Kher’s Meri Maa Pyari Maa from recent times and Chalo Chali Maa from the past are the two songs I can recollect off hand. Let me present the later.
Chalo Chali Maa by Asha Bhosle, film Jagriti (1954), lyrics Kavi Pradeep, music Hemant Kumar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggRpInuAMmE
Another song that I remember is a song on Mama.
Mama O Mama by Manna Dey and Md.Rafi, film Parvarish (1958), lyrics Hasrat Jaipuri, music Dattaram Wadkar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZZA_BTBVPg
I will take some time to go through the songs and the narrations on the two dozen relations gathered here.
Wishing all the members of SoY family A Happy Holi.
Hope to be back soon.

5 Jignesh Kotadia March 24, 2016 at 3:39 pm

a great collection of songs of a newer theme on a great festival.
A happy holi to AKji and all SoY members.

i can remind u a song on “nana”.
‘o majnuu ke nana,
mere pichhe na aana;
ja pyar karnewale teri khair nahin,
are o hum pe marnewale teri khair nahin.”

6 Gaddeswarup March 24, 2016 at 4:26 pm

AK Ji, I did not quite understand what was said because it was partly in Hindi. It is true I am back in mathematics. An old friend (from 1968) and collaborator Peter Scott turned up on Sabbatical and wanted to finish an old project. My wife said that mathematics suited me that I look healthier. So, it is going on. I notice that one of my favourites is here at number 10. I have another favourite by them about village life but I am not sure whether it fits the theme here http://youtu.be/xVIoR0BUC6s

7 AK March 24, 2016 at 4:43 pm

Subodh,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. You have given a new meaning to Sasural genda phool, which is also quite possible. But both lead to a positive view of Sasural.

I have not heard Samdhan mori. It is quite surprising that there should be a classical bandish on Samdhan.

Your absence on account of internet troubles is a loss to us. Best wishes.

8 D P Rangan March 24, 2016 at 4:44 pm

AK
An endearing post explaining the significance of all organic units of a traditional Indian family. One cannot put it better than the way you have done. With the progression of generations of one child syndrome, most of these figures would be foreign to a new born in distant future. I am sure your post would be prescribed as a text book material for yet to be born siblings in the far off days. You do come up with wonderful posts conveying great ideas. Now Bhatiaji will be working overtime to add songs covering all these links of a family. It is so numerous, I think even he will struggle. I am beaten in this regard even before I start and I will be a passive spectator watching for the torrent of songs that will be added.

9 AK March 24, 2016 at 4:45 pm

Venkataramanji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. both the songs you have added are outstanding.

10 AK March 24, 2016 at 4:48 pm

Jignesh,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. In the absence of anything better Majnu ke nana can do for a Nana song.

11 AK March 24, 2016 at 4:54 pm

Gaddeswarupji,
It is good that you didn’t understand those portions. Holi Hindi proverbs are not meant for mathematicians :). Ankhiyan bhool gayin hain sona is an excellent song, but I didn’t find any mention of any relatives. The song may not fit the thme here.

12 AK March 24, 2016 at 5:00 pm

DP Rangan,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Baba/Dada and Nana songs are yet missing. We have to see if someone comes up with that. You are right. These relations may soon become extinct. There are many familiar things which have become extinct in our lifetime. One such is ‘letter ‘ which was once ubiquitous.

13 Siddharth March 24, 2016 at 5:05 pm

AKji,
Thanks for the lovely ode to the great Indian family and also of SoY.
Wish you and all at SoY a very Happy Holi.

Found this fun song with nana and nani in it –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LImH7GV2lYk

Naana Se Kehti Thhi Naani Hamaari – Renuka (1947)
Music: Sardar Malik
Lyrics: Qamar Jalaalabaadi
Singers: Baby Shaila, Uncredited Male Voice

14 N Venkataraman March 24, 2016 at 5:37 pm

Till somebody finds a better song we can do with this song on Dada and Dadi.
Munchh Wale Dada Gol Mol Dadi by Usha Mangeshkar, film Hum Kahan Ja Rahe Hain (1966), lyrics Qamar Jalalabadi, music Basant Prakash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P3M6PacU7s

Have gone through half the post/songs.
The link to the Song Nani teri morni ko mor le gaye has been blocked on copyright grounds!!!

15 AK March 24, 2016 at 5:38 pm

Siddharth,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. This is now a genuine Nana Nani song. This song also has Dadaji. Thanks for adding it.

16 Siddharth March 24, 2016 at 5:38 pm

One more Nana song –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t36gRsMt03M

Film : Mazdoor
Song : Nana Ho Gaya Diwana
Singer : Mahendra Kapoor, A.Hariharan
Music Director : Rahul Dev Burman
Lyricist : Hasan Kamaal

17 Anu Warrier March 24, 2016 at 8:54 pm

AK, good post. You did manage to get in a couple of sneak shots at women, didn’t you? 🙂 (‘golden age, before the feminists were born, when the husband was God.’ , ‘women hate mathematics’…)

18 Ashwin Bhandarkar March 24, 2016 at 10:25 pm

AK & Subodhji: Here is a link to the drut bandish ‘Aayee samdhan mori’ in Miyan Malhar:

http://mr-jatt.com/download-uuiu/miyan-ki-malhar-aai-samdhan-pt-d-v-paluskar-pandit-d-v-paluskar.html

The lyrics of this Sadarang composition sung by Paluskar are in variance with what can be found in the 4th volume of Bhatkhande’s Hindustani Sangeet Paddhati:

Aayi samadhina mori re
Gharawaa maasar basa man baraayi

Sandala gulaaba ghisa lagaayi
Kara bhara gaalana lagaayi
Saba sautana milake
Sadaarangeele ko peherawaa pehraayi

While I understand the meaning of the antara to a fair extent, I am not sure I understand the meaning of the sthaayi. Would one of you mind translating it for me please?

19 AK March 24, 2016 at 10:45 pm

Anu,
Thanks a lot. Bura na mano Holi hai. Plus I am having too much of Donald Trump theses days.

20 AK March 24, 2016 at 10:52 pm

Ashwin Bhandarkar,
Thanks for giving this link. It refreshed my memory – I have heard this before. No I can’t make out the sthayi except that I heard Jage sasurji.

21 Ashwin Bhandarkar March 24, 2016 at 10:53 pm

Khayal bandishes that feature interfering and abusive saas-nanad are legion. Sometimes the jethaniya is thrown in for good measure into the package deal as evidenced in the last line of the drut bandish (it starts at 11:58) in Ahir Bhairav rendered by Parveen Sultana:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIEMBNwkbrw&list=PLoI5Jtcm9JGXFGEbfu81MZRDyuC8daDod

The Multani drut bandish ‘In durjana logawako’ features the feared trio of the sasuraal in its antara but unfortunately the only recording of this bandish that I was able to find on the Internet was this celebrated one by Kesarbai Kerkar, and she has totally eschewed the antara in her rendition:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wPiWezpn0s

The lyrics of the bandish as given by Bhatkhande are as follows:

Ina durajana logawaa ko kahaa karun ari eri aali ri
Jina toraa moraa jhagaraa beecha daaro
Aba moraa toraa milanaa kaise hoya

Saasa nanada mori dauraani jethaniyaa
Main to unahee ko laaja lajaaungi

22 Ashwin Bhandarkar March 24, 2016 at 11:13 pm

‘Main to bhool chali baabul ka des’, the mother of all garbas, mentions the nanadi, the saasu and the sasur:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s12QqQ_jA5c

23 Ashwin Bhandarkar March 25, 2016 at 12:10 am

Four songs from the Marathi bhavgeet genre, all relevant to the topic and all of them rendered by one of the Mangeshkar sisters:

1. ‘Gori gori pan phulaasaarkhi chaan’, in which a sister playfully makes an entreaty to her elder brother, presumably unmarried, to bring home a bhabhi for her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om-F_F6AulQ

The singer is Asha but I have no idea about the lyricist or MD.

2. ‘Za muli za’, a bidaai song written by P.Sawalaram and sung by Lata to Vasant Prabhu’s music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ACO_7uaN_0

3. The same combo of P.Sawalaram-Vasant Prabhu-Lata come up with ‘Muli tu aalis apulya ghari’, in which a mother-in-law welcomes her newly-wedded daughter-in-law :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HYVS5wUMuc

4. ‘Premaswaroopa aai’, an ode to a departed mother, sung by Lata. No idea about the identity of the poet or the MD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nckSMw3J34U

24 ksbhatia March 25, 2016 at 1:02 am

AK ji ;
Nice entertaining topic of a joint family . It was really a fun living in a joint family which was prevalent in the 50s and 60s . I will be 70 in two months time and surely feel 20 years with 5o years of experience .
I have a good teaser @8 from D P Ragan ji . To carry out the fun here is one as a stater
………Meri patni mujhe stati hai…..Manna dey, mahmood, surendra……Pati Patni……RDB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0olsI5cDkU

25 Shalini March 25, 2016 at 3:09 am

Very fun and funny post. Enjoyed going through it. But Anu’s right, regarding the sly salvos @ women. 🙂 So as payback, here’s a “dadaji” song that would curl the hair on my dear, departed dadaji’s head… if he had any hair. 😀

How sweet dadaji – Saazish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNYEglX41zs

26 Arunkumar Deshmukh March 25, 2016 at 10:38 am

Ak ji,

As I always say, you always spring pleasant surprises.
The current post is an excellent example of your innovative mind and knowledge. Thanks for this wonderful post and the songs.
As far as the query by Dinesh ji and Subodh ji about “sasural Genda Phool”, please note this is a simile for a joint family. Actually Genda phool means ‘inflorescence’. It is a Botanical term denoting a group of flowers within a flower. What we consider as a petal is actually a flower by itself. Like Marigold or many other flowers. It is to say that each family member of a joint family is a separate personality,sticking together because of love for each others. In short, Genda Phool means a joint family, in a broader sense.
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27 AK March 25, 2016 at 12:15 pm

KS Bhatiaji,
The Patni song you have added is a clichéd mocking song. Here is a lovely classical based song from Rang Birangi (1983), sung by Pt Vasantrao Deshpande and Kumari Fayyaz, lyrics Yogesh, music RD Burman. Om Praksh again, but now on the 40th wedding anniversary (in the film) he is emotional, loving, nostalgic and teasing with his wife Chhaya Devi. The song, the picturisation, the attentive listeners – everything is beautiful about this song. A great atypical work from RD Burmnan. An excellent article about Pt. Vasantrao Deshpande and about this song is here.

O mrignayani chandrabadani

28 AK March 25, 2016 at 12:22 pm

Shalini,
I am happy you liked the post in spite of my Holi salvos :). Thanks to the readers, now we have a good number of Dada/Nana songs. I just remembered that while Na na karte pyar tumhi se kar baithe is not a Nana song, Ek tha gul aur ek thi bulbul from the same film has a line Hai ye kahani bilkul sachchi mere Nana kahte the. That one is surely the maternal grandfather.

29 Dinesh K Jain March 25, 2016 at 12:39 pm

Thank you, Arunkumar Deshmukh ji for the meaning behind the phrase ‘Sasural Genda Phool’, which of course sounds so apt now.

And thanks, AK, for digging out the lovely Rang Birangi song, which surprisingly and undeservingly did not gain popularity then and therefore simply vanished into obscurity.

30 AK March 25, 2016 at 12:46 pm

Ashwin Bhandarkar,
While saas and nanadi have been the usual gripe of a new bride, the use of Jethani in the drut Mohe chhedo na Gurudhari (Parveen Sultana) is unique.

Main to bhool chali: One generally misses these relations if they do not figure in the first cou0ple of lines. Thanks for refreshing.

From the Marathi Bhavgeets I liked two immensely: Za muli ja and Premswaroopa aai.

Thanks a lot for all theses additions. Your instant recall is amazing.

31 AK March 25, 2016 at 12:47 pm

Aruji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Your words are always very generous. Thanks for explaining Sasural genda phool. We were struggling towards the general sense.

32 ksbhatia March 25, 2016 at 1:57 pm

AK ji;
O mrignayani is a beautiful song and very aptly described by you as lovable, nostalgic , emotional teaser . The song brought me to the calculating table with the result that this year I too will be celebrating our 40 th wedding annev.

As stated earlier , it was a great fun to be living in a closely knitted joint family during 50s thru mid 80s. Being a large family Music and Sports were a great past times . Here is a song which partly depict the atmosphere of that time.

Namste namste o pitaji from the song ….Bhor aai gaya andhiyara…..Manna dey , Kishore and others…..Bawarchi……Madan Mohan .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3GNgiOL9hI

33 ksbhatia March 25, 2016 at 3:13 pm

AK ji;
Here are two songs on ….bhaiya…a sister’s love for her brother :

1. mere bhaiya mere chanda……Asha….Kaajal……Ravi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZw-RRhz5cE
2.mere bhaiya ko sandesa ……Lata……Didi……N. Dutta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHGmJOmjQbo

34 ksbhatia March 25, 2016 at 3:31 pm

…in continuation……

Bhabhi ayi bhabhi ayi……song from old V. Shantaram movie …Subha ka Tara….Lata, C. Ramchandra . The song I think is picturised on baby Rajshree , Shantaram’s daughter .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mElK5HiocQ

35 Ashwin Bhandarkar March 25, 2016 at 4:30 pm

Bhatiaji: It is Usha who sang ‘Bhabhi aayi’, not Lata.

AK: A popular song from Andaaz (1971) that should have made the cut – ‘Hai na, bolo bolo’:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODIKTl_fwSI

36 Ashwin Bhandarkar March 25, 2016 at 4:52 pm

Behana/maa/ammiji/beta are instanced in this well-known song from ‘Naukri’:

‘Chota sa ghar hoga’ – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhKGCbzHNU4

BTW, is the female voice that of Usha M. or that of Savita, Salilda’s wife? At least one YT link credits it to the latter.

A popular song from ‘Hare Rama Hare Krishna’ that features behana, Daddy and Mummy:

‘Phoolon ka taaron ka’ – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHCHURktEBA

37 Arunkumar Deshmukh March 25, 2016 at 5:13 pm

Ashwin Bhandarkar ji,
Premswaroop aai was written by Kavi Yashwant and MD was again Vasant Prabhu.
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38 mumbaikar8 March 25, 2016 at 6:20 pm

AK,
As usual your Holi gift is very innovative. Enjoyed all the colorful rishte as well as the songs
Happy (belated ) Holi to all.
Do you actually believe that with few feminist born golden era can be over in India?
Jab tak Vat Pooja aur Karwas Chauth rahenga Bharat me Golden Raj rahengaa:)
Advice on this baasi Holi day try to block Donald Trump, he is not going away soon nor is he getting any better.

39 N Venkataraman March 25, 2016 at 8:10 pm

Ashwin Bhandarkar ji,
#36
As far as I know the female voice, in the song Chota sa ghar hoga, was that of Shaila Belle.
I have heard Saas and Nanadiya in Thumri’s and Khayals, I have not noticed the presence of Jethaniyas and Samdhans in Bandishes. Thanks for the Bhav Geets too.
Akji,
O Mriganayani Chandrbadani was a fantastic addition.

40 AK March 25, 2016 at 9:58 pm

Mumbaikar8,
Thanks for your appreciation. Your words are honey to my ears. काश, it was true in my home.

I can block Donald Trump, but it seems you have to brace up for his take over of America.

41 Ashwin Bhandarkar March 25, 2016 at 10:02 pm

Thanks Venkatramanji. I agree with your comment on ‘O Mriganyani chandrabadani’ – I had never heard it before. Thanks AK for this wonderful addition as well as for the article on Vasantrao Deshpande. The song is clearly based on the tappa genre of Hindustani music. It also brought to mind this popular rendition by Vasantrao of the Darbari-based natyageet ‘Mruganayanaa rasikamohini’ from ‘Sanshayakallol’:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c-Scm5YWEY&list=PLgH3F3hRpEqKx2kDOV-yZDrPPL6GrEqiX

42 Ashwin Bhandarkar March 25, 2016 at 10:24 pm

Thanks, Arunji for the information on the credits for ‘Premaswaroopa aai’ and also for the explanation around gendaphool. BTW, the word for marigold in my mother tongue, Konkani, is ‘gondo’, and it is also a term of endearment for a boy child (with ‘gondi’ being the corresponding term for a girl child).

AK: Remembered this song from ‘Ek chaadar maili si’ a few minutes ago. Nothing undercover about the devar-bhabhi relationship here:

‘Mar gayee mar gayee’ – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNgtHYCWDeM

43 Ashok M Vaishnav March 26, 2016 at 6:28 am

The water balloon lurched by AK hit so hard that it has taken these many days to recover the full senses….. the process was further delayed by the spurge of colors by the endearing SoY Family.

Holi could not have been better………..

44 Gaddeswarup March 26, 2016 at 6:34 am

This seems to be a song for patni http://youtu.be/36ORyMkyVtE

45 AK March 26, 2016 at 7:23 am

Ashwin,
Mar gayi mar gayi is terrific with Hema Malini’s lusty Punjabi dance. That is the perfect devar reference for Holiday.

Ashokji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Hope you have by now recovered from Holiday revelries.

Gaddeswarupji,
Ae meri zohrajabin has been the reference point for all elderly-couple-in-love songs because Waqt was a blockbuster and the song became immensely popular. O mrignayani would never reach its cult status, but far more elegant and endearing.

46 arvindersharma March 26, 2016 at 1:20 pm

AK Ji,
You never cease to amaze by your innovative posts, which stimulate the brain waves in a different way altogether.Years ago, in the cassette era, me too had got such a compilation made, which consisted of such melodies of different relationships.
Many of the songs have been covered by you, many new ones, never heard before have been unearthed, thanks to SoY readers, and a Lovely Mama song has been posted by Venkataraman Ji, which was on my radar.
I’ll be posting three of my very favorites
Following you, firstly Ma

Tum se hi ghar ghar kehlaya by Mukesh from Bhabhi Ki Choodiyan, composed by Sudhir Phadke

https://youtu.be/QeNOjqL7SqI

47 arvindersharma March 26, 2016 at 1:52 pm

In continuation
Following your order of preference (you must have gotten used to ‘order order’ )
Father, Babuji in Hindi heartland

Ik tha bachpan from Aashirwaad by Lata, composed by Vasant Desai

https://youtu.be/rqGZDkAO_8M

Now Beta
Manna De singing Muskura ladle muskura from Zindagi, composed by Shankar Jaikishan
Will come back with more
https://youtu.be/vGQN0xwx9V0

48 AK March 26, 2016 at 3:57 pm

Arvinder Sharmaji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Tumse hi ghar ghar kahlaya is a wonderful song. Hearing it the first time, and will hear it again and again. Thanks a lot.

49 N Venkataraman March 26, 2016 at 4:10 pm

Akji,
Here is a song from the bilingual film Padosi/ Shejari 1941. Are the children referring to their grandfather(s) as Kaka and Abba?
Kaka Abba Bade Khiladi by Gopal, Balkram and Balwant Singh, film Padosi (1941), lyrics Pt.Sudarshan, music Master Krishna Rao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD8g-FxYZ0M
I assume that you have missed my comment #14. The link to the song Nani teri morni ko mor le gaye is missing.
Thanks Bhatia Ji and Arviderji for the additions. Tumse hi ghar ghar kahlaya is touching song. A wonderful addition.

50 sundeep pahwa March 26, 2016 at 4:22 pm

Song on Chacha I feel more appropirate then the Boot Polish song would be another on Chacha .In Boot Polish David plays an elderly man whom the kids love and call him John Chacha,but in reality he is not their fathers younger brother I would include the song from Manmohan Desai film Chacha Bhataji ‘sun bhai chacha haan bhatija composed by LP

51 sundeep pahwa March 26, 2016 at 4:35 pm

Song no 9 on Mama meaning the mothers brothers.Very rightly not included Re mama re mama re from Andaz It was a metopher used by Hasrat sahib for the young kids In the song of Nanha Farishta a small correction Baby Rani happens to come into the lifes of three Dacoits and they bring her home to look after her They employ Padmini as a Help/Ayah to take care of her She is not her mother but develop a close bond with her While singing she is reffering to the three Men as a Mama,mind you there was no romantic angle between her and any of the three. Sahir sahib probably thought of a mother singing for a daughter and reminding that Her three brothers i.e Mama could be seeing her as a Chand

52 arvindersharma March 26, 2016 at 4:49 pm

AK Ji and Venkataraman Ji,
Many thanks for your kind words.
You have yourself given such wonderful songs, and would be coming with many more, I’m sure.
Another song for Nani
A person, who is one of the most loving elders, but a subject of many jokes and humor in Indian society.
The song from Heer Ranjha is another teaser sung by Usha Timothy, Krishna Kalle, Hemlata and Balbeer, composed by Madanmohan

Jo moti teri Nani hai, suna hai diwani hai

https://youtu.be/JfoGsjkGM7U

One for Devar from the same film, sung by Shamshad Begum, Jagjeet Kaur and Noorjehan (not the legend)

Naache ang ve, chalke rang ve
Layega mera Devar

https://youtu.be/Oz_7O3oYZ1s

53 D P Rangan March 26, 2016 at 5:59 pm

I came across this song from the film Maa Ka Pyar (1949) by Lata Mangeshkar
Lyrics – I C Kapoor Music : Pt. Govindram

https://youtu.be/u_FJMyEowHg

I do not know whether this song will fit in this blog. I leave it to the fraternity to pass judgement. An youthful Lata has sung in her dulcet voice and it is a delight to hear even otherwise.

54 AK March 26, 2016 at 10:18 pm

Sundeep Pahwa,
Welcome to Songs of Yore and thanks a lot for your comments and clarifications. You are right, Sun bhai chacha sun bhatija is a more apt Chacha song.

Thanks a lot for clarifying the scene of song 9.

55 AK March 26, 2016 at 10:32 pm

Venkataramanji,
Thanks for reminding me. I have a given a new link.

56 ksbhatia March 27, 2016 at 12:07 am

AK , Arvinder Sharma ji ;
1. Piya, mat-pita, bhaiya referals in a single song…..chali kaun se desh…Talat, Asha…Boot Polish…..SJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diFKPjbm8ms
2. Reference of muskura laadle from Zindagi prompt me to post two songs on laadli.
Meri laadli re bani hai…..Lata, …..Andaz….Naushad .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98kyvAr8J0A
3. Juhi ki kali meri laadli…..Suman Kalyanpur….Dil ek Mandir…SJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F_hBjEbtMs
4. Here are two sad songs that relate to those children who are either victim of social evils or of parental neglect.

Tumahre hain tumse daya mangte hain….tere laadloan ki duwwa mangte hain…..Rafi, Asha,chorus…..Boot Polish….SJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb_Ve7Rx9YA
5. Amma roti de baba roti de…..Lata and [?]….Sansar…..Shankar , Parthashastriya .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cijAc1zW3w8

I have seen the movie Sansar when I was six year old kid . I am unable to recall its story but this song is still etched in my mind . The movie is also not available on internet .
Another film that was released around this time was Maa which starred Bharat Bhushan and perhaps Pradeep also. This movie also carried story around the life of a Maa but again I am unable to recall its story and songs . Request learned SoY family to post when found .

57 ksbhatia March 27, 2016 at 12:17 am

AK ji ,
A funny song from Chacha Zindabad

Tera mera chacha zindabad ……Kishore , Lata…..Madan Mohan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMGEkM4Qxy4

58 AK March 27, 2016 at 7:45 am

KS Bhatiaji,
This is a terrific Chacha song. I guess the two lovers are mighty pleased that they have pulled the wool over their respective Chachas.

59 Neeru March 27, 2016 at 8:32 am

What an interesting topic. Really enjoyed the songs. I visit now and then, you really have a treasure trove of lovely songs.
How about nani ki nav chali ? From Ashirwad.
http://youtu.be/kl2GkI6kBB0

60 Neeru March 27, 2016 at 10:05 am

How about a song by children longing for their father..
Papa jaldi aa Jana
http://youtu.be/Sk0JZeNoIxE

61 D P Rangan March 27, 2016 at 10:43 am

@57

This song has a resemblance to another by Madan Mohan in Duniyaan na Mane –

Tum chalraheho hum chalraheho

62 ksbhatia March 27, 2016 at 12:44 pm

AK ji;
Thanks for liking the Chacha zindabad song . Here are few more of the family songs :
1. Maa Teri mamta kitni pyari…..Manna dey…..Bansari Bala …..MD[?]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP5Vqt6GIk
2. Maat pita ka naam……MK…..Sharvan kumar……Shivram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUjBEcFoCuA
3. Maa ki mamta pyar pita ka…..Lata….Gharbhar……Vasant prabhu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5xH8O6jVYM
4.Lelo lelo duayen maa baap ki….Rafi….Maa Baap….chitragupt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7sLKDU24Vk
5. Andhe maa baap…..MK…..Sharvan kumar…Shivram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARh5ECYdjzc
…..more to follow…..

63 AK March 27, 2016 at 1:01 pm

Neeru,
I am happy you liked it. Ashirwad song was new to me. It is interesting Ashok Kumar sang another song in the same style on Railgaadi.

64 ksbhatia March 27, 2016 at 1:20 pm

AK, D P Rangan [ji’s];
You mentioned Madan Mohan ‘s song which I think is quite close to chacha Zindabad song.

A few more from Madan Mohan’s kitty on family theme :

1. Un ankhon mein neend kahan…..Lata….Minister…..MM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrpoR2-Fl20

2.Aeji bibi ko ghar……Rafi, Asha….Minister….MM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrzJumclxhw

65 N Venkataraman March 27, 2016 at 2:19 pm

Was the song Chalo chali Ma inspired by the following song?

Maa Pyari Maa God Main Teri Khela Bachpan Mera by Kaushalya, film Aaina(1944), lyrics Pt. Phani music Fateh Ali Khan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bpQ-JWsOp8

66 Neeru March 27, 2016 at 9:44 pm

BTW, Bhabhi aayi from Subah Ka Tara is by Usha Mangeshkar.

67 ksbhatia March 27, 2016 at 11:54 pm

Neeru , Ashwin Bhandarker ji ;
Bhabhi ayi….from Subha Ka Tara is surely by Usha Mangeshkar . Mistake accepted .
Venkatramanji,
The song …Maa pyari Maa….from Aaina is beautiful , heard for the first time .

One of the all time fav.of mine , a strong statement by a true mother :
…..O..jane walo jaao na ghar…..Lata, chorus….Mother India…Naushad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFNnqEQGYMw

68 arvindersharma March 28, 2016 at 2:14 pm

Bhatia Ji,
Another lovely bouquet of realationship songs from you and fabulous ones. Some of them seem to have been dug up by you from deep hidden reserves.
Venkataraman Ji,
How much can I thank you for posting the song Ma pyari ma. The song was used in a parody song, in film I saw as a child, and it remained etched in my mind since then. Didn’t bother to find at YouTube, thinking that the lyrics must have been different in the original song. Many thanks once again.

Here’s a typical village Ched Chad song between a Bhabhi and Nanad, a loving one for a change, composed by Roshan and sung by Suman Kalyanpur and Sudha Malhotra

https://youtu.be/uZMT_PkxkrA

69 ksbhatia March 29, 2016 at 12:09 am

Arvinder Sharma ji ;
Nice oldie duet from Heera Moti hearing after a long time .

In a family setup the reference of Babul crops up only during bidayi of doli of the bride , a time where the further life of the daughter is passed on to the next family of inlaws to look after . Plenty of such situations exists in hindi movies where this point of time is highlighted by beautiful soulful songs . there are many but I am posting a few…..

1. Chhod babul ka ghar……Shamshad, Talat, Rafi…….Babul……Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEPyr3ceec8
2. Babul moraa nahir…..Great K L Saigal……Street Singer….R C Boral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8y_BdNm8u8
3. Main to bhool chali babul ka desh……Lata….Sarswatichandra….KA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s12QqQ_jA5c
4. O Babul pyaare…..Lata…..Johny Mera Naam…..KA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PLgKbPtIms
5. Babul ki duwaiyen leti ja……Rafi….Neel Kamal……Ravi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNuQOgrZ2NM
6. Sada chidiya da chamba ……Lata, chorus…..Kabhie kabhie….Khayaam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYEnFrIU-IM

Here is a situational song from Prem Rog…..Yeh galiyan yeh chaubhara…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AZbwR6152U

…..more to follow….

70 Shalan Lal March 29, 2016 at 4:05 pm

This post is wonderfully entertaining and the comments are enchanting. Now we know more about those so close relations who keep us pulling down or pushing up in our life. Surrounded by these relatives who needs friends or enemies or other people in the world?
Our relatives are our world of Oysters or crabs!
Three cheers for AK

Shalan

71 AK March 29, 2016 at 5:33 pm

Shalan Lal,
Now we all live in nucleus families. On occasions when the relations congregate it is quite enjoyable. Holi is one such occasion.
Thanks a lot for your appreciation.

72 ksbhatia March 30, 2016 at 12:10 am

D P Rangan, Venkatraman [ji’s] ;

During my early childhood I was fascinated by the beautiful horse driven buggies/ carriages , their beautiful design , their decorative upholstry ; and to me they were not less than the Merces or Rolls royce . It was a treat watching foreign dignetries being welcomed on these multi horse driven buggies in New Delhi . Earlier President of India during 50s and 60s used to travel to Rajpath [ known as Kingsway in those times] on Republic day celebrations .

During 50s and 60s my father used to bring ” Illustrated weekly of London ” and other magazines and books from the library of Ministry of Education , Govt of India . The 1951/52 issue of that magazine covered the coronation of Queen Elezebeth extensively , covering as also the celebrations all along the route . What fascinated me were the Queen’s crown and various beautiful carriages that were used by entire family and relatives . My interest grew further as I had a chance to see the documentry on coronation that was offered as a compl. to the main feature film …laural @ hardy in Dancing Masters [ Plaza Theater] .

That brings me focused to Western cowboy classic movies which again extensively showed the wagons , buggies , carts , etc in various forms and designs . Before the Clint Eastwood movies there were a few movies which starred Dean Martin and John Whyne which I enjoyed a lot .

In Delhi ,we as a family , used to have Tonga rides which actually were Joy rides and I never knew or never ever thought of what pain horses were to bear taking all the loads from place to place .

With the rapid urbanisation this mode of communication has given way to rapid transport system and the horse now appears for Grooms ride to Brides place .

73 ksbhatia March 30, 2016 at 11:56 am

Ak ji;
My above observation got wrongly posted here . The same were meant for…. Bollywood ‘s love affair with horses . My apology for the same.

74 Shalan Lal March 30, 2016 at 2:22 pm

AK@71

Yes Indeed Holi is wonderful and a meeting point in the Indian year. But Holi has another meaning as well i.e. making fun as related to Krishna. And I believe that Indians take full opportunity of this side and do a lots of Chhed Chhad on the Holi occasion.

I was very young and Mumbai or Bombay was ruled by Moraraji Desai who decalred colour throwing and other dancing on the streets as unlawful. A school friend of mine smeared coloured paint on my face and disappeared. At the same time the Law and Order police came and took me in the jip to the Police Chowki. My grand father went mad and went to the Chowki and threated the police and got me released.

But the post is very enjoyable finding some songs that uniquely points out various relationships within the family structure of India.

Shalan

75 ksbhatia March 31, 2016 at 11:52 pm

….In continuation of songs @69 , here is one more oldie song on babul…..

…..Babul hum tore angana ki chidiya…..Lata…..College Girl……SJ…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P7csf29CsA

76 Chitrapatsangeet April 1, 2016 at 4:41 pm

Wonderful post AK! Thoroughly enjoyed it!

77 chitrapatsangeet April 1, 2016 at 7:34 pm
78 chitrapatsangeet April 1, 2016 at 7:37 pm
79 chitrapatsangeet April 1, 2016 at 7:40 pm

Biwi-(If this fulfils any reciprocation for all the work she does for us)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHLlZ9mI_xg

80 ksbhatia April 2, 2016 at 12:30 am

Chitraputsangeet ;

Nice addition to the family tree songs .

Here are few with Munna/ Raj Dullara songs :

1. Munna bada pyara ami ka dulara……Kishore …Musafir…Salil Chd .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZyBS8GnxhU

2. Raj dulare bitiya re…..Lata….Aangaarey…..SDBurman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTqt1W_XYGI

3. So ja re mere raj dulare…..Lata……Kathputli…..SJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRrsyk9aQ6g

4. Sooja tu mere raj dulare soja……Talat….Jawab…..Nashad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCZJdvDRKto

5.Mother Mary, ma hum tere dulare hain…..Lata, others…Bachpan…KA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMdnjynZdK4

6. Aankh ka tara mera…..Lata….Kabhi dhup kabhi chaoan…Chitragupt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVryo765sPg

7. Hori ho vraj dulare…..K L Saigal…..[Geet ]….1933/34 song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBg-JvxIg0Y

The last one is a gem of a song . I have not been able to locate other details as to which film and its music director . Please post these details if located .

……more to follow……

81 AK April 2, 2016 at 9:28 am

Karthik,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation and the addition of the songs.

82 AK April 2, 2016 at 9:35 am

KS Bhatiaji,
You have added beautiful songs. The last one is a non-film song. It has figured in my post on KL Saigal. He himself wrote and composed some of his famous non-film songs. One of his most beautiful songs is Main baithi thi written and composed by him.

83 Chitrapatsangeet April 2, 2016 at 2:32 pm

My favorite munna song https://youtu.be/KgPV7ClhPww

84 Chitrapatsangeet April 2, 2016 at 2:36 pm
85 Chitrapatsangeet April 2, 2016 at 2:37 pm

Thanks for your appreciation KSBhatia ji!

86 ksbhatia April 2, 2016 at 5:32 pm

AK ji;
Thanks for the appreciation . I was completely bowled by K L Saigal non filmi song as I was hearing it for the first time . As you said i will surely listen to his songs which he had written and composed as well .
Chitrapitsangeet @83-85 ;
The songs are again lovable . The Sansar song relived my old memory as I have seen this movie when I was hardly six or seven year old. The other song….Aama roti de baba roti de….is another song from Sansar which is my fav. and which i have posted earlier also.

87 Ashwin Bhandarkar April 2, 2016 at 5:42 pm

An SOS from a harassed hubby:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBLAww3JYqQ

88 ksbhatia April 2, 2016 at 11:45 pm

Ashwin bhandarkar ji ;
Here is one miya biwi harassed song.
Charandas ko peene ki jo aadat……Kishore…..Pehli jhalak….CR .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxaMot6pwC8

89 ksbhatia April 2, 2016 at 11:55 pm

….in continuation , here is a stamp of appreciation from biwi and miyan in two separate songs :

1. Apni apni biwi pe sab ko guroor hai…..Lata….Do Raaste…..LP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZemaWcU-y6E

2. Apne apne miya pe sabko bada naaj hai…..Asha…Apna bana lo….LP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEEuDTl2JNg

90 ksbhatia April 3, 2016 at 12:28 am

AK ji;
A few songs on Maa [ mother] :

1.Aao tumehn bataon maa kya hai….Lata….Ghar ka chirag…..MM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcyGZ_b1os4

2.Maa hai mohabbat ka naam…..Rafi……Maa ka aanchal….MM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPX5M7zvUXo

3.Meri duniya hai maa tere aanchal mein…..SDB….Talash….SDB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3R1Io7wKlM

4.Maa tujhe dhoondun kahan…..Rafi….Maa…..LP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpz95bD7kK8

5.Mata o mata jo tu aaj……Sudha malohtra….Aab dilli door nahi….Dattaram

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N34kpI7hSo

…..more to follow…..

91 Chitrapatsangeet April 3, 2016 at 6:08 am
92 chitrapatsangeet April 3, 2016 at 6:22 am
93 Mahesh April 3, 2016 at 3:13 pm

AK ji and arvindersharma ji @46,
Again, a very unique post by the virtue of which it was bound to have a large variety of relationship based songs.
When I first received this post on email, I started searching for the Mukesh number referred by Sharma ji @46 and was disappointed at not finding it for the simple reason that its a very apt song for the “Bhabhi” relationship.

Yes, its not “ma” but a song sung to a Bhabhi. And, only the pen of Pandit Narendra Sharma had the power of equating Bhabhi to a “ma”. He was the same lyricist to have penned “jyoti kalash chhalke” in the same movie.

Again, Mukesh singing the quintessential Amir Khurso’s “lakhi babul more kaahe ko” from Suhug Raat (1948) is a must in the post.

My tributes also to Sudhir Phadke and Snehal Bhatkar for the respective songs.

https://youtu.be/hIOa4DfV6Yw

94 arvindersharma April 3, 2016 at 10:41 pm

Mahesh Ji,
Many thanks for your clarification of the Bhabhi Ki Choodiyaan song, which I’d posted.
I will confess that I’d not seen the movie and only relied upon the lyrics of the song, which make no distinction between Bhabhi and Ma.
Thanks again Sir.

95 AK April 4, 2016 at 12:00 am

Mahesh,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation and adding Mukesh’s Lakhi babul more.

96 ksbhatia April 5, 2016 at 2:40 pm

AK ji;
Here is one of my childhood movie song from….Bahut Din Huye…..by Lata which was very popular during those days [ 1954/55] .

Amma amma main kisko kahun amma…….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuCKzhAhrDI

97 ksbhatia April 10, 2016 at 11:09 pm

AK ji;
Here is one song where Bhabhi gets the status of Mother by circumstances . The song is unique in the sense that Rafi sahib gave playback for Kishore kumar in Shararat .

……..Ajab hai dastan teri ye zindgi…..Rafi……SJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kDm2ubq3ZA&nohtml5=False

98 D P Rangan April 11, 2016 at 3:56 pm

Nothing surprising in SJ selection. It is a sombre mood and Kishore would not fit in very well both in acting and singing in such situations. Look at the range of octaves one has to travel. It is clearly beyond competence of Kishore. Rafi had acquitted splendidly. My only disappointment, it is the age old piano song scene popularised aeons ago. I do not know anything older is available than Mukesh song in ANDAAZ.

99 SSW April 11, 2016 at 7:47 pm

Mr. Rangan , I don’t think that “ajab hai dastaan” is beyond Kishore Kumar’s competence. I have heard him traverse more than one and a half octaves with just his chest voice. I have heard him sing falsetto at more than an octave above that range. Rafi has sung the song beautifully as always, but to say KK could not have done it is not correct. He would have sung differently and perhaps we would have been the richer for have both versions.

100 SSW April 11, 2016 at 7:48 pm

Sorry, for “having” both versions.

101 N Venkataraman April 12, 2016 at 8:03 pm

Akji,
Hope this song fits the bill.
Ghoda nachave mera ladla samdhi ke dawre
Samdhi hamara bade pyar se saz moti ware
Singer Asha Bhosle, film Bhabhi ki chudiyan (1961), lyrics Narendra Sharma, music Sudhir Phadke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG967ZFsAg8

102 AK April 13, 2016 at 9:55 pm

Venkataramanji,.
Absolutely. One needs to locate more such songs outside HAHK.

103 Ashwin Bhandarkar May 7, 2016 at 11:13 pm

Vasantrao Deshpande singing the Gara dadra ‘Bindiya le gayi’:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxoRUQA118A

The ‘chhote devar’ makes his appearance at 5:52.

104 ksbhatia May 8, 2016 at 2:32 pm

A K’ ji;
Wishing S o Y family a happy mothers day . As we all know a lot of actresses of vintage and golden period , with the passage of time , switched on to their respective mother roles and were as successful as when they were young . I think Nirupa Roy had long innings in this respect ; living mother roles to practically all the popular heroes during 60s till the end of the century .

Personally I liked the mother’s roles played by Leela Chitnis . She sort of reflected the pains of upbringing the child in difficult and poverty times that touched every one hearts. She posessed that trembling voice that enhanced her ability to convey the requisite emotions to greater heights . She acted exceptionally well in Asli Naqli and Hum Dono . There are many more films where she did memorable role as mother .

On this mother’s day I am posting one of her very rare song from a very old movie Azad [ 1940] where , as a mother, she is singing a song for her child . The film had additional feature……Saraswati Dewi… as a lady music director . The hero was Ashok Kumar .

……..Methi boli boley raja bitwa……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWLviPQ1_YM

105 Shalan Lal May 8, 2016 at 5:25 pm

ksbhatia ‘104

That is a wonderful tribute on the Mother’s Day. Leela Chitnis had that motherly look many people loved her for that. I think she was mother of all the Three greats and others except Ashok K.

She was asked to be mother of him as well but he refused saying that she and him had very romantic memories of them as lovers in many films and he did not want to ruin that image.

Shalan Lal

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