SD Burman: ‘The Courage of His Convictions’ (Establishes Geeta Dutt As a Frontline Singer)

16 October 2019

Gust article by Moti Lalwani

(We are aware that SD Burman had an uncanny ear for selecting a singer for a particular song. In this he didn’t care for the reputation of a celebrity artist, director, producer, or singer. He was the Master of Music, and he made the final choice. That is why there is no major playback singer for whom he didn’t give some songs of eternal importance. In the last article Moti Lalwani showed how SD Burman had his way on Hemant Kumar for the song ‘Ye raat ye chaandni phir kahan’. Continuing the same theme, Mr Lawani shows how Burman Da established Geeta Dutt as one of the frontline singers during the era when Lata Mangeshkar hit the music scene as a Tsunami.

Mr Lalwani is one of the recognized authorities on SD Burman, having spent a major part of his productive life studying and writing about him and interviewing people associated with him. This was in addition to his professional career as a Mechanical Engineer with L&T from which company he retired over twenty years ago. Mr HQ Chowdhury’s celebrated book, ‘Incomparable Sachin Dev Burman’ quotes him several times. Sathya Saran’s ‘Sun Mere Bandhu Re’ is largely based on his material. I am happy to present the second guest article by him in the celebration of this October as the month of SD Burman. Thank you Mr Lalwani. – AK)

SD Burman and Geeta DuttGeeta Dutt (nee Roy), born on 23 November 1930, had no formal training in music. Pandit Hanuman Prasad, who used to compose for mythological films, heard her voice and made her sing just one line in a chorus in his film ‘Bhakt Prahlad’ (1946). Young Geeta would have been about 15 years old when she sang that line in the chorus, as the recording was done earlier.

SD Burman heard that one line, though in a chorus, and realised the potential in that voice. He went to her dwelling in Dadar to persuade her father to let her sing in his forthcoming film ‘Do Bhai’ (1947). The film was being produced by Filmistan, a well-known production house those days. Geeta would have been all of 16 then.

Burman Da decided to make her sing most of his songs. Naturally, one of the Filmistan’s partners took objection to the young and untrained girl singing most of the songs in their film. But Burman Dada would not listen. Finally, a compromise was arrived at. Dada put his reputation at stake by declaring that he would record one song with Geeta, after listening to which the producers may arrive at their decision. Dada, confident of his ability to make her sing, worked hard on her voice before recording.

The first song to be recorded by Geeta was ‘Humein chhod piya kis des gaye’. Everyone liked it and Dada was allowed a free hand to decide. Do Bhai had nine songs, out of which Dada made her sing six of the eight female songs. The other two were sung by Paro Devi, and the ninth song was sung by Mohammed Rafi.

Humein chhod piya kis des gaye piya laut ke ana bhool gaye

Geeta sang her life’s first super-hit song ‘Mera sunder sapna beet gaya’ under SD Burman. Viewers used to see the film again and again, for its music. The film became super-hit, and completed silver jubilee.

Mera sundar sapna beet gaya

It was also the first film for the lyricist Raja Menhdi Ali Khan. Both Geeta Dutt and Raja Menhdi Ali Khan got name and fame after the film. Geeta became number one singer till Lata took over in 1949. Even then she held her own in the 1950s.

Geeta’s one line in Bhakt Prahlad was part of a bhajan (devotional song), while ‘Mera sunder sapna beet gaya’ from Do Bhai was a sad song. As it happens in the film industry, she started getting singing assignments mainly for bhajans and gloomy songs. In ‘Jogan’ (1950), she sang 12 solo bhajans. She was getting typecast in a particular mould, and it was her mentor SD Burman who realised that the young Geeta was getting into an abyss, from where it would be difficult for her to come out.

Burman Dada stepped in to prove to the world that Geeta could be an equally versatile singer in other genres too. This time the film was Baazi (1951), produced by Dev Anand’s Navketan. The lyricist in Baazi was Sahir Ludhiyanavi. However, its director was Guru Dutt, who loved to listen to Dada’s Bengali songs from the time he was about 14-15 years old.

Sahir wrote lyrics of the song ‘Tadbeer se bigdi hui taqdeer bana le’ as a ghazal, wanting it to be sung in a mujra style. However, he was in for a big surprise. Burman Dada, who used to have an uncanny audio-visual perception of the situation, realised that a ghazal would not suit the situation. He decided to give it a western tune with the guitar as its main instrument. Choosing Geeta as its singer, Dada turned Sahir’s lyrics in to a fast-paced cabaret song. Geeta, who had never sung a cabaret song before, was trained by Dada how to sing. Dada used to have extensive rehearsals with his singers before recording, and even reject the recorded song if the singer was not up to the mark.

During rehearsals, Sahir did not like the outcome one bit. As Dada would not listen to him, he went and complained to Guru Dutt about his ghazal being turned in to a western tune. Burman Dada, on being asked by Guru Dutt about Sahir’s complaint, is supposed to have retorted, “Who is the music director? Someone else or me?” Dada added further that the music would be composed according to the situation. Guru Dutt could not say anything more to Burman Dada.

As Sahir would not talk to Dada, he again went to Guru Dutt, asking what had happened about his complaint, to which Guru Dutt replied, “I am unable to say anything more. Dada will do whatever he likes“. Sahir felt insulted. He declared then and there that in future he will never write for a film with music by SD Burman. But, after the song became a super hit, Sahir changed his mind. We had many more songs by Dada and Sahir together, until the end of their partnership with Pyasa in 1957, when due to Sahir’s ego, Dada declared he would not work with him.

Burman Dada himself wrote in his article ‘FAR AWAY FROM MUSIC’, that he had made significant changes in the style of his music in Baazi. He also wrote that he was concerned, but during holidays in Calcutta while fishing, he found the urchins singing ‘Tadbeer se bigdi hui taqdeer bana le’, after the release of the film. He realised his experiment had succeeded.

Tadbeer se bigadi hui taqdeer bana de

The earlier film ‘Do Bhai’ was the second biggest earner of 1947. Similarly, ‘Baazi’ became the second biggest earner of 1951, the year of its release. The film’s viewers would return to see the film again and again for its music. From then on, Geeta Dutt was accepted as a versatile singer and held her own against Lata and Asha for many more years.

Baazi’s phenomenal success due to its music was instrumental in the rise of the fortunes of Dev Anand, his production house Navketan, Geeta Dutt, Sahir Ludhiyanavi and Guru Dutt.

References:
1. ‘Kato Ki Royachay Lekha’ by Suman Gupta
2. ‘GURU DUTT: A LIFE IN CINEMA’ by Nasreen Munni Kabir
3. ‘Ten Years with Guru Dutt – Abrar Alvi’s Journey
4. ‘The Golden Age of Hindi Film Music’, edited by Siddharth Kak
5. Internet

Acknowledgement and Disclaimer:
The song links have been embedded from the YouTube only for the listening pleasure of the music lovers. This blog acknowledges that the copyright over these songs rests with the respective owners, such as Saregama India Limited and others.

{ 43 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Dr Pradeep Kumar Shetty October 16, 2019 at 11:38 am

As I have said in the earlier post, for me, Geeta Dutt is the most versatile female singer, followed by Asha Bhonsle and Lata Mangeshkar.

My all time favourite GD_ SDB creations:

Waqt ne kiya kya haseen situm… KAAGAZ KE PHOOL

Nanhi kali sone chali ..
&
Bachpan ke din…( Asha Bhonsle)
SUJATA

Jaane kya tune kaha…
( Above Aaj Sajan mohe ang laga le…)
PYAASA

Aan milo aan milo Shyam saanwre…(Manna Dey)
DEVDAS

Kya ho phir jo din rangeela ho..(Asha)
NAU DO GYARAH

Jaanoo janoo re…(Asha)
INSAAN JAAG UTHA

And, for it’s comical effect,
Dil ki umange hain jawan..( Hemant Kumar, ? Pran)..I love the talking portions of Geeta Dutt here: Gaayiye Gaayiye Gaayiye; Bahut achche; Kya kehne etc…
MUNIMJI.

Moti ji,
What details do you have about Suridh Ker?

2 Dinesh K Jain October 16, 2019 at 12:45 pm

Thanks to Mr Lalwani for another interesting article on SDB, in my opinion the best MD ever of our film industry.

I had never before heard “Hamen chhod piya kis des gaye”. Two observations. Gita’s voice and singing both lacked the virtuosity that she shortly displayed in “Mera sundar sapna”. I find it surprising that Filmistan’s bosses agreed to Gita singing for Do Bhai on the former evidence. It is also surprising that within such a short time span she took a quantum jump to the levels of Mera Sundar Sapna, the best song of the year.

Apropos of the theme of a recent article by AK, Gita repeatedly pronounces “bhul” for “bhool” in the first song. Is that so in Bengali? Or a demand of the metre? I wonder how SDB himself and the film’s producers/director allowed such an in-the-face incongruity.

3 AK October 16, 2019 at 2:41 pm

Dinesh,
Your query is addressed to Mr Lalwani, but since you mention me in the last para, let me add, yes, her भुल is very pronounced and, for most of us, is quite jarring. Except this flaw the song is very good, so Filmistan bosses might have allowed SD Burman to have his way. It is still quite surprising that neither the lyricist nor anyone else in the team got the flaw corrected. Everyone too overawed by Dada?

4 KB October 16, 2019 at 3:54 pm

Along the fifties and maybe a few years of the sixties Geeta Dutt was one of the three main female singers for SD and the outcome with her was extremely promising. But later in the sixties for reasons unknown she was replaced but her solos and duets particularly with Rafi were very good. Please bring out a post on her duets for SD.

5 arvind October 19, 2019 at 10:47 am

Dinesh K Jain @2 n AK @3
Bhul/Bhool(hame chhod piya kis des gaye)
Consider this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GroZRkImwAE

6 Dinesh K Jain October 19, 2019 at 4:48 pm

So are there two different versions of the song?

7 AK October 19, 2019 at 5:20 pm

Dinesh,
I am somewhat confused, because in the link sent by Arvind ‘bhul’ seems to have been straightened a bit. But for donkeys years, ‘bhul’ has stuck in my mind. I leave it to the experts.

8 Subodh Agrawal October 19, 2019 at 7:55 pm

Dear Dr Lalwani, thanks for this wonderful article covering my favourite composer and favourite singer. I had no idea Dada stuck his neck out so much for Geeta. Thanks for this insight and the songs.

You have left us thirsting for more. Waiting for your next article.

9 Mehfil Mein Meri October 19, 2019 at 10:12 pm

Wonderful article Motiji.
S D Burman is my favourite composer. Thanks for the post. I enjoyed it.
I had a whole month dedicated to Burman da last year on my blog, when I wrote five posts covering his career in short.

AKJi,
as far as Bhool/bhul,
There could be two versions, one for movie, the original sound track and other only for record. And ‘Bhul’ appears only in the latter.
In old days, singers some times used to sing songs twice, one for recording and other for shooting.
Could it be the case here?

Anup
🙂

10 AK October 19, 2019 at 11:42 pm

Anup,
Yes, they always used to record the songs separately. Which means that for the second time there was some improvement.

11 N Venkataraman October 20, 2019 at 8:21 pm

Arvindji @ 5
Thanks for the link to the film version of the song, which escaped our notice all these years.

AKji, Dineshji & Anupji

What was the general practice? The record version was done first and then the film version or the other way round. And were the music directors present while recording the disc version?

Bhool is a Bhool and cannot be anything else. Bhool is pronounced as Bhool in Bengali too.

12 AK October 20, 2019 at 9:32 pm

Venkataramanji,
Recording first, or after, I think both were followed. It all depended on the marketing strategy. The timing of release of the song, whether before the film and how much before to arouse interest, or to keep everything in wraps till the release, we find both practices. ‘भूल’ or ‘भुल’ has become interesting. There was never doubt about the correct form, but in my mind the wrong form had registered, I think the radio always played ‘भुल’ गए.

13 Manoj October 21, 2019 at 5:01 am

Do not claim to be an expert in face reading, but SDB always looked to be one not to be disturbed. Many thanks to him for his contribution to film industry.
Geeta Roy / Dutt : have most enjoyed her NFS , Haule Haule Hawayen Dole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnuwm38J6DQ
in slow and fast versions.

14 SSW October 21, 2019 at 7:03 am

AK @12
From what I have heard and I could be wrong, film songs were usually recorded on sound film first. Then the recording was done again for discs later. Originally I think it was on lacquer discs with a disc cutter and then on magnetic tape.
You will notice in the older songs often the orchestration is different in the film and on the record. Additionally the physical limits of a 78 rpm record meant that songs on the disc were sometimes cut short, preludes, interludes, postludes and sometimes even parts of the songs , including entire verses were left out.
This travesty of deleting musical portions continued even into the 1970s when the need to do this was not necessary. By the late 1950s you could transfer the optical recordings directly onto a master tape without having to do two recordings.
And it was even worse when people moved these recordings to CDs. There are some remastered CDs that I would use as tea coasters than rather than play them, save for the fact that unfortunately they are the only recordings I have. Our recording company executives did not respect sound.

15 ksbhatia October 21, 2019 at 3:01 pm

Manoj ji @13;

I think I am at same platform as you are . Geeta dutt’s NFS song …… Haule Haule Hawayen Dole……..is too good and not to be missed when weather is as good. Lata’s SDB masterpiece …..Thandi hawaein lehrake aayen….is another one which I like to stay in my heart for long….weather permitting of course.

16 ksbhatia October 21, 2019 at 3:12 pm

SSW @14;

I entirely agree with you. Slipping of Music Discs are as bad as …Slip Discs . Its so irritating….all the pleasure of listening goes in vain in a second ! The CD s are now worth only to Rickshaw pullers …..using them as light reflectors at night.

I still have in my possession music cassettes [ and AK knows that] ….a great way to listen…..with orchestra playing right notes in a stereo or Dolby system . With cassettes recorders still working …its a great pleasure.

17 ksbhatia October 21, 2019 at 4:00 pm

Er.Moti Lalwani ji;

I am flying with SDB orchestra playing….Yeh Kaun Aaya Ki Mere Dil Ki…..but lend me a thick book or a nice study table first ….to tap my fingers to match the beats ….my dancing shoes calling too.!!….wanted to sway off my feet and floor !!!

Yeh Kaun Aaya Ki Mere Dil Ki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhzsbsLFK1o

Navketan movies were special to me …..as they had nice club songs and dance numbers . In early 60s I used to walk down to CP’s various restaurants and some nice clubs where there was tradition to appoint crooners to sing to mini and medium live orchestra. Besides those Hollywood musical numbers , some fast numbers of Bollywood were also played. And those were the times when SDB, CR and SJ club Songs became handy to play for Anglo Indian gatherings. I really miss those times….Yes those were the days my friend !!!

18 ksbhatia October 21, 2019 at 4:18 pm

Venkatraman ji ;

After embracing the sensation of flying with Geeta Dutt song here are some ….a paused one at a low feeling .If listening is our passion, pursue every kind of happiness without hesitation!

Geeta Dutt: Yaad karoge ek din humko yaad karoge : Film – Do Bhai (1947)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN0Knh8uLlU

Aaj Ki Raat Piya – Baazi 1951

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1HGxYVSTi0

I have great respect for our Radio of the 50’s who played all those beautiful numbers . A mini radio by any standards ; but a great voice master ….Phillips [ Holland].

19 ksbhatia October 21, 2019 at 4:29 pm

Er.Moti Lalwani ji , Venkatraman ji;

Sachin Da was really confidence booster for Geeta Dutt . Geeta sang a number of different subjective songs under SDB …..and such songs are not easy for relatively new comer.

Hear these songs which are naughty in nature …very enjoyable ….and nicely filmed too. Raj Khosla was another good Director with fine focused eyes ….and talent.

Sharmaye Kaahe Ghabraye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySdWftpQQHU

de bhi chuke ham dil nazrana dil ka..Geeta Dutt_Kishore Kumar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4zbkAFR8Fo

20 SSW October 21, 2019 at 8:29 pm

Mr.Bhatia @16. I did not mean that all CDs are bad. Some are quite good. However there were quite a few that were made including some compilations by SaReGaMa that were sold for a large sum but had pitiful sound. It was as if the people who transferred recordings to the CDs were tone deaf.

21 N Venkataraman October 21, 2019 at 8:48 pm

AKji & Dineshji,

In reply to Dineshji’s query @ 2,
“Apropos of the theme of a recent article by AK, Gita repeatedly pronounces “bhul” for “bhool” in the first song. Is that so in Bengali? Or a demand of the metre? I wonder how SDB himself and the film’s producers/director allowed such an in-the-face incongruity.”

I wrote with utmost confidence ‘Bhool is a Bhool and cannot be anything else. Bhool is pronounced as Bhool in Bengali too’, which was proved by my wife to be another “Bhool”. When asked, my Bengali friends nonchalantly told me that that the pronunciation was “Bhool”. And I was fool in accepting their answer without cross-verification. I should have asked my wife, a Bengali by birth, a teacher by profession, and also a singer in her own right and also an ardent admirer of Geeta Dutt, Hemanta Mukherjee & S D Burman.
But, Ghar ka Murgi daal baraabar.

While finalizing the script for the centenary program on Hemanta MuKherjee to be held on 1st November, I am glad that I brought up the topic on Geeta Roy’s pronunciation of Bhool/Bhul. And lo and behold, she tells me that the pronunciation is indeed ‘Bhul (ভুল)’ in Bengali and asked me to refer to the Bengali lexicon. For me, the problem was, the representation of ‘u- ু’ and ‘oo- ূ” is not so distinct especially in small Bengali fonts or prints, unlike in Hindi (भूल, भुल). If you increase the size of the font you will know the difference. All along I was under the wrong impression.

I would add a disclaimer. I learnt to read Hindi and Bengali by following sign-boards first and then by regularly reading newspapers in both the languages, and gradually graduated in reading books in both the languages.

A mistake is a mistake, and I am sorry for the wrong information provided. But it was a small part of my eternal learning curve and I stand corrected.

22 N Venkataraman October 21, 2019 at 8:54 pm

That leads me to the following conclusion.
Geeta Roy came to Bombay with her parents when she was twelve and I believe she was admitted in a Bengali High School most probably in Dadar. So it was likely that her natural Bengali pronunciation remained with her when she first recorded the song ‘Hum Chod Piya Kis des gaye’ for Do Bhai. She must have been around 15/16 years then. She must have brushed up her Hindi/Urdu in due course.

23 N Venkataraman October 21, 2019 at 9:00 pm

SSW @ 14
You wrote,
‘From what I have heard and I could be wrong, film songs were usually recorded on sound film first. Then the recording was done again for discs later. Originally I think it was on lacquer discs with a disc cutter and then on magnetic tape.’

Yes you are right. The above information pushed me for further probe.

Until the advent of magnetic tapes in the early 1950s, songs had to be recorded twice, since there was no means of directly transferring the film sound track recording to a gramophone record. But it was almost the end of that decade before the need to record songs twice, once for filmmaking on optical film and once for the discs, totally disappeared. That change ultimately took place when HMV, roughly around 1958, acquired an optical transfer machine that transferred sound directly from celluloid film to acetate master disc. (Source: Behind the Curtain: Making Music in Mumbai’s Film Studios by Gregory D Booth)

U K Dubey, who was HMV’s national vice-president for artists and repertory, endorses this point. Mr Dubey was a long time associate as percussion arranger for S D Burman and for many more MDs.

24 N Venkataraman October 21, 2019 at 9:06 pm

SSW & AKji,

Now let me revert back to the topic on Geeta Roy’s recording for Do Bhai.
A recap first:
The year of release was 1947. Film songs were recorded in studio on sound film. And after that HMV had no way of transferring the song/ music from the film. So the musicians used to come to the HMV studio and record the song again. And you (SSW) have said the same thing.

But a query lurks in mind and bothers me. Had Geeta Roy recorded the film version first and then the disc version then how could she make the mistake in pronunciation while recording for the second time, when her pronunciation during the first take for the film was OK. If separate recordings were done, then it could have been the other way round too. SO again my assumption would be, the disc version was recorded first, where she makes the mistake and later gets noticed and corrected during the recording of the film version.

25 AK October 21, 2019 at 11:14 pm

Venkataramanji,
Once I decided to learn Bengali, but soon realised I am not good at picking up languages. But now that you say it, I remember the Bengali short matra for ‘u’ is written as ভুল. Therefore, Geeta Dutt (Roy)’s mistake might have been due to Bengali background.

It is clear that the technology for synchronous recording of songs on films was different from asynchronous recording of songs on records. Therefore, these were done independently of each other. I get it that sometimes the gramophone recording was done earlier. But as SSW said I am not putting my neck out for it.

26 Giri October 22, 2019 at 6:04 pm

Geeta (Roy)Dutt had a unique and wonderful voice. That he went to her house and persuaded her father to let the 16 year old to sing in his film shows Sachinda’s ability to spot talent and his conviction.
Abrar Alvi,in his book, says that the original idea to record’Jane woh kaise log the’ in Hemant Kumar’s voice came from Geeta Dutt. Sachinda accepted it. That shows that he had confidence in her judgement.
It is sad that the HFM lovers were deprived of the full potential of Geeta Dutt’s music due to her marital problems and alcohol

27 Mehfil Mein Meri October 24, 2019 at 6:15 pm

Venkataramanji,
Thanks for the info about the recordings in the past. I didn’t know much about it.

anup
🙂

28 Hans October 26, 2019 at 11:54 pm

It is now ten days since this article was posted. I was dilly-dallying after what happened in the first article. But, Giriji’s comment made me rethink. Giriji is a respected member here and has perhaps literally believed in the story being presented here. As a result, I thought I should present some facts.

According to the story SDB heard the one line in chorus and recognised the talent and gave her break in Do Bhai. Another fact given here is that Hanuman Prasad used to compose for mythological films. Hanuman Prasad gave music in 14 films in the 1940s. I provide here the names of these films. Chowrangee (with Qazi Nazrul Islam), Draupadi, Gaali(with Sajjad Hussain), Bhakt Prahlad (with KC Verma), Jeena Seekho, Nai Maa, Rasili, Jasoos, Hip Hip Hurray, Middle Fail, Chilman, Daulat, Apni Chhaya (with Husnlal-Bhagatram) and Bhool Ka Shikar. Readers can make out how many of them are mythological films. But, the script is being written for Baazi change made by SDB in her career. So poor Geeta has to be shown as typed for devotional songs because of that one line in the chorus in a bhajan and sad songs for ‘mera sundar sapna beet gaya’. And we have to believe that because as AK says Lalwaniji is an authority on SDB.

It is a well known fact that in 1946. the records did not even have name of the main singer, leave aside that of a chorus singer. Then how come SDB came to find who was the talented singer through that one line. This story would have gone unchallenged but for HFGK and Youtube. which are a spoil-sport for most of anecdotes of this type. So, we from those twi sources know that Geeta sang 8 songs in 1946 itself and Hanuman Prasad gave her 3 more duets in Nai Maa and Rasili in the same year. Anil Biswas gave her two solos in Dilip Kumar starrer Milan which was released in 1946. In my opinion SDB came to know about Geeta through Biswas or her songs in that film which was a mediocre hit, though the main singer was Parul Ghosh. In 1947, Geeta became an instant craze and sang 37 songs, which was fifth best for all singers male or female. Male singers had very few songs in those times and only Shamshad Begum, Zohrabai, Ameerbai and Rajkumari were above Geeta in numbers. In such a situation, there was no surprise that Filmistan people and SDB – who were all Bengalis except Chunilal who was rarely involved in such minor things – wanted to take Geeta for songs. I dont know how much truth is there in the ‘resistance to Geeta’ theory. Also there was hardly any surprise in SDB going to Geeta’s house, she being still a child and they being Bengalis from the same area which is now in Bangladesh.

The statement that she was type cast for bhajans or sad songs or that she sang 12 solo bhajans in Jogan, is as true as the one which said Hanuman Prasad gave music only for mythological films. I think Lalwaniji either did not listen any of the Jogan songs which were not bhajans of meera or he did just copy-paste some other’s words. Film’s name being Jogan does not mean all songs are bhajans. There are only 6 Meera bhajans out of the 12 songs by Geeta. Songs like ‘daro re rang daro re rasiya, phagun ke din aaye re’, ‘jara tham ja ae sawan, mere sajan ko aane de’ and ‘chanda khele ankh micholi, badli se nadi kinare’ are all light and merry songs. Besides these the song ‘gend khelun gend khelun kanhan ke sang’ is a child song. Jogan was a bigger success than Baazi or Do Bhai.

I post here two songs from film Darogaji, songs of which were composed by Bulo C Rani and which had Nargis like Jogan and which was also a successful film.
Kotwal daroga apna ki ab dar kahe ka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dR4LqBPbkc
Ho jawaniya nigodi sataye haye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azOMB2Dekbk

Even SDB gave her a light song ‘mere mohan ne mujhko bulaya’ in Dil Ki Rani.

I would write about Baazi and Sahir and SDB-Geeta combo later.

29 Giri October 28, 2019 at 7:05 pm

Hans ji,
My comment was only about SDB’s ability to spot the potential in Geeta Dutt and how good she was.
Generally I take such interviews reports etc. only at the facevalue and don’t analyse deeply because:
The person’s mentioned therein are no more and cannot confirm contradict or explain.
The writers/talkers, are usually careful in saying only good things about famous personalities. More so if they are hard core fans.
Distance of time may cloud their memories, accuracy being the casualty.
I don’t have the knowledge or data (as you have).

30 Hans October 29, 2019 at 11:51 pm

Giriji
Thanks for the reply. You may not have data, but your knowledge is reflected in your comment above as well as in other comments. As AK says those who talk less or do not talk, does not mean they dont know about things.

31 mumbaikar8 October 30, 2019 at 4:37 pm

Geeta pre Baazi in bouncy mood.
Geeta Dutt: Meri kashti ko : Film – Kamal (1949)
https://youtu.be/78frmove00U

32 Hans October 31, 2019 at 12:19 am

This is in continuation of my comment 28. I had given links to a couple of songs of Geeta and Mumbaikar has given another. I had also listed some songs of the same type. If Lalwaniji still insists that Geeta Dutt was typed for bhajans and sad songs, I can give dozens of songs which would prove otherwise.

Before coming to Baazi, I would give some stats of both Geeta Dutt and SDB which will show where they stood at the end of 1950. First SDB. From 1946 to 50, SDB gave music in 11 films out of which nothing is known about Chittor Vijay. So we can say there were 10 films for which he composed music for 88 songs out of which details are not known for 2 songs – one each in Shikari and Pyar. Out of these 65 were solos ( 46 female and 19 male ) and 21 duets(break up is male-female 18, female-female 1, male-male 1 and one all female triad). Female solos he gave to 8 singers of which Lata had 2, Lalita Deulkar 3 and Meena Kapoor 1 and the remaining 40 were distributed among five singers Geeta Dutt getting the lions share with 17. Geeta was also given 8 duets. He gave the 19 solos to 11 male singers, which shows he was not sure to whom to give his male songs. He was also confused in the matter of male-female duets where he used 14 different pairs for the 18 songs. The result of all this was that he had very few hit songs, though there are a number of other quality songs which I like. But, one thing is sure the great composer we now know was not yet born.

As per records with me, Geeta Dutt sang 382 songs by the end of 1950 in 122 films and under about 50 Music Directors. Since she had only 46 songs in the first two years, the remaining 336 she got in the three years from 1948-50. By that time she was clearly in the top 3 along with Lata Mangeshkar and Shamshad Begum. Great singers like Zohrabai, Amirbai and Rajkumari had been pegged back by her even before the Lata Tsunami struck in 1949. Meena Kapoor who came almost with her was left behind along with some other also rans. So if we cannot call a singer among top 3 as an established singer, then what would be the criteria for calling her so.

SDB certainly had a big role, but he had only 25 songs out of the 382, which is about 8 percent. Bulo C Rani with 41, Hans Raj Behl with 37, Husnlal Bhagatram with 31 and Gyan Dutt with 29 gave more songs to her than SDB. During this period she was given songs by greats like CR, KCP, Ghulam Haider, Ghulam Mohammad, Shyam Sunder, Avinash Vyas, Chitragupta, Nashad, Vinod, Anil Biswas, Sajjad Kussain, Shankar Rao Vyas, SN Tripathi, Vasant Desai, Shardul Kwatra, S Mohinder, Khursheed Anwar and Gobind Ram. Roshan gave her the all time great duet with Mukesh ‘khyalon men kisi ke’ and Naushad also used her for a small song clip of ‘tu mera chand main teri chandani’.

So from the above it is clear who needed whom. SDB was not settled but Geeta was already settled in her position. To say that in Baazi SDB gave her the songs she got is all bunkum. Geeta Bali played the night club dancer and she got 4 songs, so they were not going to be bhajans or sad songs. SDB could have decided the story, script and situations if he was the producer director of the film. So the principal gainer from the success of Baazi music was SDB himself and Geeta Dutt had a great role in his success. Most of the friends at SOY have agreed from time to time that composer, lyricist and singer have equal share in the success of the song. So if Geeta owes something to SDB, then he also owes her something.

From further stats I will show SDB had no love for Geeta and as soon as he got the alternative, he dumped her mercilessly. Lata was, after the side effect of 1949, so awfully busy that she recorded around 600 songs (1200 if we take double recordings) in the first 3 years of the 50s, starting 1951. I will give here comparative stats bifurcating them.

1946-50 Geeta got 25 songs as I told earlier and Lata got only 2. In 1951-52, Geeta got 12+4=16 songs (just 10 more besides the 6 in Baazi), Lata got 17+6=23 and Asha got a look in with 2+1=3. In 1953-54 Geeta suddenly goes behind both sisters and gets just nominal 5+2=7 songs, while Lata gets 27+4=31 songs and Asha gets 12+2=14 songs. In 1955-57 Geeta may look to be making a revival courtesy her husband’s Pyasa with 8+7=15 songs, but Lata 21+2=23 and Asha 14+11=25 both beat her easily. In 1958-60 despite Lata’s absence and forced calls to Geeta, she still lags miles behind Asha who got 28+27=55 songs compared to Geeta’s 5+8=13, while Lata got only 3 solos in Sitaron Se Aage. In 60s his contribution to Geeta tally was a female-female duet with Asha in Doctor Vidya and a duet with Manna Dey in Ziddi. After this he never remembered her, despite her helpless situation after the death of Guru Dutt. A visit to her house ‘a la’ the much publicised visit for Do Bhai was the need of the hour.

Geeta Dutt was such a great artist and one of the nicest person in public life, put so much effort for SDB which came to naught and now his fans are insulting her by dubbing her a typed singer of the 40s. I think there needs to be a post on her songs from 1946-50. I would request Subodh – for whom she is the best female singer – to do that. I can provide stats. If he does not agree, Dr Shetty can take this up, because he has also declared her his most favourite singer. Such a post would go a long way in bringing matters in the right perspective.

33 Hans November 1, 2019 at 11:51 pm

Now coming to Sahir and other things. First of all I would give a link to the relevant portion of ‘sargamer nikhad’ which is the autobiography of SDB.
https://greenwatchbd.com/the-nikhad-of-the-sargam-sachin-deb-burman/

Now look at the highlights of what the author says about ‘tadbeer se bigdi hui tadbeer bana le’.
1. “wanting it to be sung in a mujra style.”
2. “ghazal would not suit the situation. He decided to give it a western tune with the guitar as its main instrument.”
3. “Dada turned Sahir’s lyrics in to a fast-paced cabaret song.”

Look at what SDB says.
“I requested Sahir to write a Ghazal. I added a Western tune to the Ghazal. Guru, the Director, and Dev, the Producer, did not object. On the contrary, they praised this innovation.”
Now here SDB himself mentions that he asked Sahir to write a ghazal and he does not say that Sahir objected to his composition. And as per SDB himself in this link and as per all his fans’ narratives, Sahir was sitting before SDB like a primary school student when he wrote the lyrics.

Now let us have a look at the lyrics of the song before going into highlights.

तदबीर से बिगड़ी हुए तकदीर बना ले
अपने पे भरोसा है तो इक दांव लगा ले
डरता है ज़माने की निगाहों से भला क्यों
इन्साफ तेरे साथ है इलज़ाम उठा ले
क्या ख़ाक वो जीना है जो अपने ही लिए हो
खुद मिट के किसी और को मिटने से बचा ले
टूटे हुए पतवार हैं कश्ती के तो गम क्या
हारी हुई बाँहों को ही पतवार बना ले

What was the situation of the song. Dev Anand was unemployed and used to gamble in a small den for running the home where he and his sister – who is ill – live. Perceiving his talent, KN Singh who was the boss of a big gambling den, sent his people to bring him, who refuses to work for him when he sees a person who had come to gamble being beaten up. Later, he gets to know that his sister is suffering from TB and she has to be sent to sanatorium. So he goes to the den, but when he finds a servant being beaten up by a gambler, he turns to go out. It is at this stage Geeta Bali starts to sing this song to egg him on to join the club. She works in the den as dancer who attracts people there.

Now Sahir was nobody to write a song for mujra style picturisation when the situation is explained to him thus. The lyrics of the song are totally according to the situation, as was Sahir’s speciality. The format is that of a ghazal, but the format is also used in tappas in Panjab and also in heers, as well as hindi dohas. The lyrics do not suggest a serious ghazal. There had been a number of songs in this format used for lighter situations before Baazi. So neither Sahir nor SDB was pioneer in either writing or composing in this style. Since Geeta Bali was singing the song with a guitar in hand, the tune had to use this instrument. I think if somebody says it was a cabaret song then he has not taken the trouble to see the film.

In view of the above it is clear that the story of Sahir running to Guru Dutt and complaining is just fiction.

The biggest attraction of the film was Geeta Bali’s lively role, which she did to perfection. The author’s claim that this film enhanced the career of so many persons named by him can at best be called half truth. Look through the career of SDB and see how many hit films he gave where Dev Anand was not the producer or the hero. He owes Dev Anand a lot and Dev Anand did not ditch him like SDB ditched Geeta Dutt, Hemant Kumar, Rafi, Mukesh, Talat and Lata and Asha by turns.

34 Rahul Bhagwanrao Muli November 2, 2019 at 12:22 pm

It is amusing to read continuing tirade of Hansji against SDB
There are number of claims made which can be contested with facts & statistics ( though statistics can be used as a lamppost)
Take for instance his question
How many hits of SDB where Dev Anand was not a producer or hero?
Answer
Aradhana
Prem Nagar
Jugnu
Jiddi
Chalti ka Naam Gadi
All considered superhits
Sharmilee
Abhiman
Chupke Chupke
Talash
Mili
Anurag
Mashaal
Do Bhai
All considered above average to hit
It is also surprising that when Naushad does not use Talat even after stupendous success of Babul it is regarded as Naushad establishing Talat & when SDB uses Rafi till Chupke Chupke (though not in the same proportion ) it is SDB using Rafi for enhancing his career
It is also surprising that even after ‘ditching’ every bigwig as quoted by Hansji SDB could continue to work till his death .

35 Hans November 3, 2019 at 10:58 pm

Rahulji
I am happy I could entertain you in an era when even the comedy serials do not serve the purpose for which they are made. I entered on the tenth day. Till then the full quota of fiction has already been served. My comments were to tell what I think of the fiction. If you call it tirade, you are free to do so. You say my claims can be countered on the basis of facts and statistics. First of all I am not making claims, only countering the claims which are short of truth. But if you have some facts and stats kindly give them. If found wrong I would easily admit that.

First of all let me say that when I said how many, that did not mean that there were none but that meant that they were less.

Now let us see your lamp-post (or stats whatever you call them) on the point of SDB hits sans Dev Anand. I may tell you that barring Do Bhai, Mashal (when I was not born) and CKNG and Ziddi (when I was too young), about the other films listed by you, I have enough knowledge which films were hits and which were flops. Because I am a film buff and in those days used to watch almost each film which came to our town. But, first I would talk about what you have given. To my knowledge out of 89 films which SDB did Dev Anand was involved in 28 films and from 1946 to 64 (upto Ziddi) there were 61 films which SDB did out of which 20 had Dev Anand. Dev Anand, as is well known, was in the trimurti of heroes. He was a people’s hero and produced more successful films than the other two. So his support was a great one for SDB.

I will take your stats in two ways. First, Mashal came in 1950 and upto that time SDB had done 11 films. So from 1951 to 1964 (the time of Ziddi) there were 50 films in the 14 years. Out of these 18 (average 1.28 per year) had Dev Anand and 32 (average 2.28 per year) were without him. As per your own list during this whole period of 14 years there was only one film CKNG which was successful and the next was Ziddi. Out of the 18 Dev Anand films only three Armaan, Ek Ke Baad Ek and Manzil were in the flop category. 2 out of 30 against 15 out of 18. So what was wrong in my statement? During this crucial period SDB was only surviving on the films of Dev Anand. If we look at the subset of the pre-Rafi era from 1951-56, there was no hit for SDB without Dev Anand, while Dev Anand gave only one flop Armaan. If we look at the total also as per your list there were 13 out of 61 for non-Dev and around 20 out of 28 for Dev films.

There is one more factor and that is the Rafi factor. All the films listed by you barring Do Bhai and Mashaal came after SDB association with Rafi started. That means with the stupendous success with Rafi which he got, he got more and more confident of his abilities. Pre-Rafi he was just one of those other MDs and after Rafi he came to be recognised as one of the greatest.

Now let us see your list as per my experience of films. Prem Nagar you have listed among super-hits but was a flop. Talaash was a super-flop. Mili was rarely seen except in selected halls in metro cities. Chupke Chupke was similar except in Dharmendra strong areas of Haryana, Panjab, Delhi and Rajasthan and there too there was not much enthusiasm. Abhiman was average and Anuraag below average. Only Sharmilee of your second list was near a hit though not exactly a hit.

On your other points, I dont think Naushad or his fans claimed he established Talat. I agree with you that he was wrong in dumping Talat after Babul, thus depriving us of some great songs. In dumping singers Naushad was no less a culprit than SDB, but he also made singers out of non-singers which SDB could never do.

36 Moti Lalwani November 9, 2019 at 12:16 pm

Dr Pradeep Kumar Shetty ji @ 1
Dr Pradeep Kumar Shetty ji @ 1
Suhrid kar had assisted S.D. Burman in the following 8 films as per the film titles:
Vidya 1948
Baazi 1951
Naujawan 1951
Madh Bhare Nain 1955
Munimji 1955
Miss India 1957
Pyaasa 1957
Paying Guest 1957

As SDB was very selective about taking work – having declined offers from Bimal Roy, Guru Dutt and Hrishikesh Mukherjee among others, his assistants kept on changing, but his music never suffered.

Suhrid Kar, like other assistants, became full-fledged music director and SDB was very supportive of them in taking up independent offers.

37 Moti Lalwani November 9, 2019 at 12:32 pm

Dinesh K Jain @ 2

Thanks for kind words.

To me it sounds most of the times ‘bhool’, except at times she does sound like ‘bhul’. I think, being all of 15, she might have got overawed by the situation.

38 Moti Lalwani November 9, 2019 at 12:40 pm

AK and Dinesh @ 7

Bhool became bhul, as it is copied from a slow playing vinyl record. That could be the reason.

39 Moti Lalwani November 9, 2019 at 1:03 pm

Subodh Agrawal ji @ 8,

Thanks for kind words. But I am no doctor, though I had wanted to be one.

Dada has stuck his neck so may times, that you will be surprised. Those at the receiving end were, his employers Filmistan (yes, they were employers for all those who worked for them), Bimal Roy (twice), Guru Dutt (twice), O.P. Ralhan.

In his interview with us, music director Anandji told us that SDB would tell the director, “This is the song suitable for the situation, adding, ‘Tumko akkal nahin hai.” Incidentally, Anandji in another interview on YouTube has gone on record that both the brothers had accepted him as their guru.

40 Moti Lalwani November 9, 2019 at 1:08 pm

Mehfil Mein Meri ji @ 9,

Please be kind enough to share with me the link of your 5 articles, and anything else on SDB. I may have read some of your writings, as the name MMM is very familiar.

Thanks.

41 Moti Lalwani November 9, 2019 at 5:31 pm

ksbhatia ji @ 17,

Those were the days of crooners every evening in the bars and pubs, in Calcutta and in Delhi.

One of the early songs based on waltz rhythm by Dada Burman was ‘Phaili hui hai sapnon ki baahein’ by Lata from House No 44 (1955). Burman da had an excellent knowledge of western music.

In an article titled ‘Missing Maestros’ in Times of India dated February 21, 2009 it is written: “Earlier compositions by S. D. Burman, Naushad, Salil Chowdhuri and Shankar-Jaikishan prove their command over western melodies.”

Even Bobby Darin, the iconic composer of ‘Come September’ appreciated Sujata, Guide and Parakh. He became aware of them through a British music critic, James Stewart, who was well informed about Hindi melodies.” (Even though names of four music directors have been taken, two of the three movies mentioned above have music by SD Burman)

42 Moti Lalwani November 9, 2019 at 5:56 pm

N Venkataraman ji @ 23

Just a clarification. You wrote, “U K Dubey, who was HMV’s national vice-president for artists and repertory, endorses this point. Mr Dubey was a long time associate as percussion arranger for S D Burman and for many more MDs.”

I talked to U. K Dubey, the rhythm arranger, whom we have interviewed a few times, and uploaded videos on YouTube. He was a solo player (Dholak) with SDB and most of other music directors. Now he leads a semi retired life, sometimes arranging for Uttam Singh.

He clarified that the other Dubey was V. K. Dubey, who was Vice President of HMV.

43 Moti Lalwani November 9, 2019 at 6:08 pm

Giri ji @ 26

Hemant Kumar on Sachin-da, in an interview:
“I remember when he was composing for Guru Dutt’s Pyaasa, I got a phone call from him. He said in Bengali, “Are you free tomorrow… I have one song for you” and that song was “Jaane Woh Kaise Log The…” (Pyaasa).

Jha (The interviewer): A very soulful song, but didn’t you use the same tune for the song of Anupama. You sang for Dharmendra in “Ya Dil Ki Suno…”.

Hemant Kumar: There are seven ragas and 36 basic raginis and what’s wrong in that? If you see the mood of both, the scenes are quite similar and while composing, Kaifi Azmi the lyricist of Anupama liked the tune. All the songs of Anupama were soulful. It was called “The Sound Of Silence” … only music and song.

(Hemant Kumar in an interview with MRITYUNJOY KUMAR JHA)
https://www.thequint.com/entertainment/flashback/singer-composer-hemant-kumar-interview)

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