Having a shelter over one’s head is one of the basic needs of humans. Having one’s own house used to be the lifetime’s dream. It happened only once at the time of retirement when one pooled in all the savings to make this investment. But this meant buying sand, cement, steel, stone-chips, cables, tiles, bathroom, electric fittings, and dealing with masons, carpenters, electricians and plumbers. You supervised in grime and dust, and dealt with cantankerous and recalcitrant workmen. Till a generation back this was how a middle class person got his house made. It was far from the romance of ‘Chhota sa ghar hoga baadalon ki chhaon mein’.
Now no one gets his house made in that mode. Even young professionals start thinking of an apartment, which requires signing some papers and post-dated cheques. The banks are there to lend you money, you pay the EMI, and if the builder is not a crook – a big risk these days in the NCR – you get your apartment on completion. You are spared the grime and dust your grandparents had to go through, but it is yet not the romance of ‘Phoolon ke shahar mein ho ghar apna’.
When the romantic lovers thought of home sweet home, it had nothing to do with reality. Their homes were located in some dreamland, and had more luxuries and comforts beyond what they could imagine. Even if it was devoid of luxuries, the two lovers being there in each other’s company was all that mattered.
In Modern Times (1936), the Tramp, Charlie Chaplin, is in and out of jobs, jails and police stations. From time to time he bumps into the Gamin, Paulette Goddard, who herself has a number of run-ins with the cops, authorities and remand homes, on charges of vagrancy. In this scene, she is waiting as he comes out of the police station, and hugs him with excitement that she has found a home. And what a home! It is a decrepit log cabin, with every piece creaking and falling apart, yet Charlie Chaplin exclaims, “It’s paradise!”
The factories open, Charlie Chaplin rushes for getting his job back, but in the end the two lovers are still penniless and have nowhere to go. Having no place they can live anywhere. The lovers are still in bliss being together. There is no limit to dreams as they dream of being a gentleman and a lady in their fancy home.
But the brick, mortar and cement do not make a home, nor even the lavish interiors and fittings. it is living with the people you love that does. In Wizard of Oz (1939), Dorothy (played by Judy Garland) is transported to a fairyland, but finally yearns to be back to her modest home in Kansas because, “There’s no place like home”.
Piya Ka Ghar (1972) is anything but the romantic abode of the lover as the name suggests. It is cramped by his parents, uncles, brothers and a Bhabhi, in a one-room tenement. Desperate for some privacy, the newly wed bride is set to leave this chawl when she is face to face with the transparent and unselfish love of all, and declares that that was her home.
Here are some great songs that let your imagination soar about a dream home in some ethereal place.
1. Premnagar mein banaungi ghar main taj ke sab sansaar by KL Saigal and Uma Shashi from Chandidas (1934), lyrics Aga Hashra Kashmiri, RC Boral
What a thought, the lovers are willing to make their home in some abode of love, away from this world. The aangan, chhat and duar are all made of love, and the neighbours and friends are also made of love.
2. Ek bangala bane nyara by KL Saigal from President (1937), lyrics Kidar Sharma, music Pankaj Mullick
Saigal has got a raise, now sun has come out of the clouds, and he dreams of a sweet golden home with windows made of silver, made by the celestial architect Vishwakarma himself. It would be like a star in the sky, riding on which the moon will sway on the swing of the rainbow, and Goddess Lakshmi would fill it up with all the riches.
3. Pyar ka jahan ho chhota sa makan ho by Kishore Kumar and Asha Bhosle from Jalsaaz (1959), lyrics Majrooh Sultanpuri, music N Datta
The two lovers do not want anyone around, in a state of ज़माने में रहकर भी जुदा हों ज़माने से. Wherever they go on the path of love, stars would come down in their eyes. The supremely romantic Majrooh writes beautiful poetry, composed so beautifully by the underrated N Datta, and sung equally well by Kishore Kumar and Asha Bhosle.
4. Aa mohabbat ki basti banayenge hum by Kishore Kumar and Asha Bhosle from Fareb (1953), lyrics Majrooh Sultanpuri, music Anil Biswas
Very similar thoughts – let us make our home away from this earth and sky. I am reading ‘basti’ in the sense of ‘abode’. No wonder, this too is written by the great romantic poet Majrooh Sultanpuri. He is among the very few lyricists honoured with Dadasaheb Phalke Award.
5. Chhota sa ghar hoga baadalon ki chhaon mein by Kishore Kumar and Shaila Belle from Naukri (1954), lyrics Shailendra, music Salil Chaowdhury
Now Kishore Kumar imagines that their little home would be under the shade of clouds where only they would shine like stars in the galaxy. He would have his sister sit in a silver chair, and his mother adorn a golden throne.
6. Kitna haseen hai ye ek sapna, phoolon ke shahar mein ho ghar apna by Amit Kumar and Lata Mangeshkar from Love Story (1981), lyrics Anand Bakshi, music RD Burman
Kumar Gaurav and Vijeta Pandit had a great launch in this Bobby-style film. This too became a huge success, but the lead actors could not sustain their success. The runaway couple lands into a valley of flowers (was it the real Valley of Flowers?) and dream of their home in the land of flowers. They have a dreamy solution to all kinds of real problems: There are natural streams for water; If there is no electricity, no problems, her bindiya is no less than lightning, and so on.
7. Aa chal ke tujhe main le ke chalun ek aise gagan ke taley from Door Gagn Ki Chhaon Mein (1964), singer, lyrics, music Kishore Kumar
Though the word ‘ghar’ is not mentioned, but Kishore Kumar plans to take his son to some pace under the sky, where there is no sorrow, only love and love; and where the sun’s first rays rekindle hope, and the darkness goes away washed by the rays of the moon; where in this dreamland there are no complaints or grievances, there are no enmities, and there is only love – don’t we all dream of a place like that to live? This is a beautiful song, and I think it fits the theme.
8. Ek ghar banaunga tere ghar ke saamne by Rafi and Lata Mangeshkar from Tere Ghar Ke Saamne (1963), lyrics Hasrat Jaipuri, music SD Burman
The romantic lover Dev Anand is in a reverie as he sees image of Nutan in his drink. He also has a sketch of a dream home in his hand, and when he sings Tere ghar ke saamne ek ghar banaaunga, he hardly thinks of what it entails, he is lost in his fairyland with her beloved.
9. Swarg se sundar sapnon se pyara hai apna gharbaar by Chandrani Mukherjee from Ghar Dwar (1985), lyrics Anjaan, music Chitragupta
Similar thoughts, but the characters are not romantic lovers, but members of a happy family. One thought that the days of Mahaan paarivarik films were over long ago, but Chitragupta comes up with an apt score. The song gives a feeling as if it was sung by Lata Mangeshkar.
10. Rahne ko ghar nahi, sone ko bistar nahi, apna khuda hai rakhwala by Kumar Sanu, Debashish Dasgupta, Junaid Akhtar from Sadak (1991), lyrics Sameer, music Nadeem-Shravan
The protagonists lead a stark life, living on footpaths, with no relatives to call their own, but they are carefree, God will look after them.
Acknowledgement and Disclaimer: The song links have been embedded from the YouTube only for the listening pleasure of the music lovers. This blog claims no copyright over these songs. The copyright vests with respective owners, such as Saregama India Limited and others.
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AK ji,
Arre, ye toh Ghar Ghar ki kahani hai!
Some songs that instantly come to my mind:
Ye tera Ghar Ye mera Ghar
Kisi ko dekhna hai gar…SAATH SAATH.
Do deewane shehar mein
Raat mein ya dopahar mein
Abudana doondte hain
Ek Ashiyana doondte hain..
..
In bhool bhulaiya galiyon mein
Apna bhi koi ek Ghar hoga..
( Gulzar mentions Abudana, Ashiyana and Ghar. He could have used makaan and gharonda too.)….GHARONDA.
Zindagi Zindagi mere ghar aana
Aana Zindagi..
Mere Ghar ka seeda sa itna pata hai
Mere Ghar ke aage Mohabbat likkha hai
Na dasthak zaroori
Na awaaz dena….. DOORIYAN
Chota sa Ghar hai ye magar
Tum isko pasand kar lo…DARR.
Do Panchi do tinke
Kaho leke chale hain kahan?
Ye banayenge ek aashiyan….. TAPASYA.
Sapnon ka shehar
Mein banayenge Ghar….EHSAAS.
Baaki kuch bacha toh Mehngai maar gayi..
…
Jeevan ki bas teen nishaan
Roti Kapda Aur Makaan…ROTI KAPDA AUR MAKAAN.
Chota sa Ghar apna
Apne jeevan ka Sapna
Ye toot na jaaye…CHARITRAHEEN.
Mera chota sa Gharbaar
Mere angne mein
Chota sa Chanda
Choti choti taaren….PREM PARBAT.
And, the one mentioned by you..
Piya ka Ghar hai ye
Rani hoon main
Rani hoon Ghar ki…PIYA KA GHAR.
Logon ke gharon mein rehta hoon
Kab apna bhi koi Ghar hoga….GRIH PRAVESH.
Aa Mohabbat ki basthi basa lenge hum
Dharti se door gore Ambar ke paar…FAREB.
Ghar tera apna Ghar laage…WAARIS.
( The nice word rainbasera is used in the lyrics.)
Jhilmil sitaron ka aangan hoga
Rimjhim barasta saawan hoga..
JEEVAN MRITYU
AKji,
Thanks for another interesting theme. Nice write-up as usual.
Come July and I am away from my home, sweet home.
I am on transit and I am not very comfortable posting comments from my phone.
I will try to be in touch.
Ek Mahal ho sapnon ka…EK MAHAL HO SAPNON KA
It seems Pradeepji will exhaust all the relevant songs.
Let me post a song, not from a film. Hope it fits the criteria.
Ghar Yaad aata hai mujhe by Sona Mohapatra & Ram Sampath, lyrics Suresh Bhatia & Svati Chakravarty, music Ram Sampath
https://youtu.be/9Pw9v5XnMsg
Nice theme, AK, and a really good selection of songs! I won’t list down the songs that I chose for the same theme (our lists are very different – only two songs in common), but I will be shameless and do some self-promotion by linking to my own ‘homes and houses songs’ list:
https://madhulikaliddle.com/2017/05/23/homes-and-houses-ten-songs/
Akji,
A nice theme and great song list.
I liked the prologue, it’s so interesting but simple. And the Charlie Chaplin scenes, always make you laugh and cry at the same time. You learn to take anything positively after watching those. His films were of course never just comedy, but much more than that! They touch your soul.
Coming to today’s theme,
Something along the lines of ‘Dekho Maine Dekha Hai’.
A song from dil 1990
Hum Ne Ghar Chhoda Hai
Mentions and depicts the dream home of the couple
https://youtu.be/mCmsQghpW2M
And,
I would mention a Marathi song, by Asha Bhosle and Suresh Wadkar
What else we want, when both of us are together. Just a new house for our baby.
The dreams of a couple about their home.
तुझ्या माझ्या संसाराला आणि काय हवं?
https://youtu.be/vGMayCWrMeY
And it’s a subtitled version, you can get what they’re singing.
And
May be
Marathi version of house with bamboo door
From the movie, Gharkul
By Chitalkar and Pramila Datar
https://youtu.be/PScTqA5MVVg
Anup
🙂
AK
Wonderful theme. We had “Aangan” and “Ateri” other parts of the “House or Home” both have different meanings.
I quote “Ghar Ghar Mein Diwali Mere Ghar Mein Andhera” something opposite of the dream house.
Shalan Lal
Na mitti na ghada
Na sona sajaana
Jahan pyar dekho
Wahin Ghar banana
Ye dil ki imaarat banti hai dil se
Dilason ko choo kar
Ummedon se milke….
Some great lines from Gulzar.
Jahan pe sawera hai Basera wahi hai…
Lata,RDB…..BASERA, 1981.
Apna bhi hoga ek Basera
Apni shame apna savera
Ghar tera Ghar mera
Khushiyon ka ho dera….SIRF, 2008
N Venkataraman ji,
Trying to restrict myself to the dream home theme as suggested by AK ji.
Otherwise,
Nazar laage Raja tohre bangle par,
Bangle ke peeche teri beri ke neeche,
Lagta tera Ghar mera hai,
Ghar aajaa ghir aayee,
Mere Ghar aayi ek Nanhi pari,
Tum se hi Ghar Ghar kehalaya,
Ghar se nikalte hi kuch door chalte hi..
…so many songs are there.
When in the third standard, with just basic Hindi knowledge, l used to like
Gar tum bhula na doge
Sapne ye sach bhi honge
Hum Tum juda na honge.
My interpretation?
Ghar tum…..
Forget not our sweet home!!!
Our dreams shall come true
We shall not part from each other..
I thought a home is essential for a happy relation, after all!
Aao tumhe Chand pe le jaaye
Pyar bhare sapne sajaaye
Chota sa Bangla banaye
Ek nayi duniya basaye…
ZAKHMI,1975.
Sushma Shrestha,Lata; Gauhar Kanpuri, Bappi Lahiri.
Pyara ek bangla ho
Bangle mein gaadi ho
Gaadi mein mere sang
Balma anadi ho….AAP KE KHATIR
Dariya kinare ek bangla ga pori
Jay jo jay….SABSE BADA RUPAIYA
Dr Shetty @1, 2, 3, 5, 10, 12, 13,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation and for posting a huge cache of ‘new’ songs. All the songs you have posted the theme of a ‘dream home’. How I wish you could figure out YT links too. That almost compels us to click it and listen to the song. You have also posted Aa mohabbat ki basti basayenge hum from Fareb. I have included it in my post at #4.
N Venkataramanji @4,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. I hope you would be able to post substantive comments on your return.
@6,
Dr Shetty’s power Of recall is enormous. But you have posted a unique song befitting the theme.
Madhu @7,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. It is quite unusual that on such a common theme our song selections were so different. But you posted great songs. It is also an interesting coincidence that your screenshot is the same picture which I selected for my thumbnail.
Anup @8,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. You have rightly noted that Hum ne ghar chhoda hai is very similar to Dekho maine dekha hai ek sapna in content and presentation. The Marathi songs were very nice and fit the theme.
Shalan Lal @9,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Ghar ghar mein Diwali hai has the word ‘ghar’ in the lyrics, but it is not about ‘Home, sweet home’. It is about the heroine’s sadness for which she uses the metaphor of darkness in her home on the night of Diwali.
A Fairy Tale home for a child:
Sapno ke Ghar ki chat pe hain taare
Toffiyon ki deewar pe latke gubbare
…
Haathi Ghode Bhalu Sher Cheetah saare
Baadalon ne kaise kaise roop dhare..
DADDY, 1991.
Talat Aziz,Suraj Sanim, Rajesh Roshan.
Will
Ghar jaayegi tar jaayegi..
… Dulhaniya mar jaayegi
fit?
Since the home she is dreaming of going to would be a happy place,it might fit.
Thanks for the songs and the theme AK. There are many songs with the word ‘ghar’ in the mukhda, but they don’t talk of a home as such. One that comes to my mind is this one from ‘Piya ka Ghar’:
https://youtu.be/vUHCo-FMZAs
The movie ‘Ghar’ featuring Rekha and Vinod Mehra interestingly didn’t have a song on this theme as far as I can remember.
AKji
What a conjurer to have at the helm of affairs. We are indeed fortunate. House to live at the mere drop of a hat. Wonderful theme to read about. The songs are glued to the theme and speak for themselves. I do not trouble to look for songs to post when we have great hunters like Dr. Shetty and Bhatiaji .
I cannot overcome my weakness of adding a Latin phrase in this context – Consequittur quodcunque petit.
The characters in this movie have built a huge mansion from the Lakshmi saved by not employing domestic help and by having the daughter-in-law slave it out on the daily chores.
‘Jis dwaare pe ghar ki bahu’ – Lata Mangeshkar/Salil Chowdhury/Anand Bakshi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhJinjCTiZo
A nursery rhyme that I learnt in school: “This is the house that Jack built”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-k5ba9VMm0
Learnt while Googling for the song that there have been 3 movies made with the same title as the song.
AKji:
What a wonderful theme! ‘Ek bangala bane nyara’ has been a top favourite of mine. The other songs are equally nice and befitting the post. The topic would be dear to everybody except ones who have renounced the world.
Home ownership is an important indicator of a country’s prosperity. Singapore’s and Hong Kong’s policies have resulted in more than half of their people living in own (rather than rented/mortgaged) home. Unfortunately, our policies have left most Indians singing ‘Cheen-o-Arab hamara’ (Mukesh in Phir Subah Hogi; MD: Khayyam):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHnKVOezOR4
Interestingly, even in Hong Kong, I had seen people (including expatriates) living in ‘cage-homes’. Migrant workers in Howrah spend their lives in bunk-beds. So do students in Kota/Bangalore.
Long back I had read a sci-fi story (I think it was ‘Billenium’ by J.G. Ballard) in which the world had become overcrowded, people lived in cells, paid rent by ceiling area (easier to measure than floor) which resulted in sloped walls to maximize rent. The story revolved around the hero finding a secret cubicle. (Apologies if any readers do not like dystopian stories).
Subodh,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Nice song.
Mr Rangan,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. I could google the Latin phrase, therefore, thanks a lot for your nice words for me.
Ashwin,
Thanks a lot for the wonderful song. Heard for the first time. The persons who built the mansion taken care of all the needs, from goshala to ‘David’ and other art?
AK ji;
You have chosen a very different topic that interests us all …..from high tech to house holders. A beautiful House is an Architects dream and Civil Engineer’s construction challenge . Over the various cinematic years …..witnessed many beautiful sets designed by Art Directors ….which were a great challenge …..befitting story and screenplay . Necessity of a home ….a sure demand of Rich and Famous to the poorest of the poor ……from Mahals and Villas of Shree 420 to leaking roofs of thatched huts of Boot Polish.
From High Cost to Low Cost …..watch how Raj Kapoor solves this problem as he propose to Nargis in Shree 420…..just before the famous romantic song …pyar hua iqrar hua hai .
Raj Kapoor Proposes To Nargis On Street – Shree 420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZUDmEeDf8I
It is always good to be at home and what a satisfaction when the house is in order and clean for healthy living . Chasing dreams on roads always leads you home again ….Home Sweet Home !….and so also when you are back is your own country . After a jolly good long vacation you feel happy to be back on touch down on soil which is very well your own. An oldie song which also says so……home is where heart is…..
Apna Ghar [1942] – Radhe Apna Ghar, Apna Desh Hai Apna Ghar SINGER: Shanta Apte,
MUSIC: Harishchandra Bali
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWLjpnpeark
On retirement ….Music is the increase in a home’s value …..over time. A corner in a house is always your second home where one can spend infinite hours ….and getting lost in your own house only to be shaken up for a hot cup of Tea. And if its raining the eyes get wide open when cookies are replaced by hot pakodas .
रिम झिम बदरवा बरसे..jhir jhiri boroshai..ek sur dui gaan..Lata_Salil Chaudhary…..:Tangawali,1955,
Music Director : Salil Choudhury,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2-AOncvr9A
Loving lyrics too….
rimjhim rimjhim barkha barase nain more tarse
aa jaa aa ja ghar more piya
san san hava dole ghunghat mora khole lage na jiya
rimjhim rimjhim barkha barase nain more tarse
aa jaa aa ja ghar more piya
san san hava dole ghunghat mora khole lage na jiya
aasha ke dvaar khadi khadi, raah teri dekhu ghadi ghadi
aasha ke dvaar khadi khadi, raah teri dekhu ghadi ghadi
tarsaaye saavan ki jhadi, tere bin suna jag saanvariya
rimjhim rimjhim barkha barase nain more tarse
aa jaa aa ja ghar more piya
san san hava dole ghunghat mora khole lage na jiya
aao ji ghar more piya kaano me kuchh samajhaau
mann me hai baat kuchh aisi kahate huye sharamaau
aao ji ghar more piya kaano me kuchh samajhaau
mann me hai baat kuchh aisi kahate huye sharamaau
chhoti si tasvir tori phirati hai ankhiyo me meri
chhoti si tasvir tori phirati hai ankhiyo me meri
nind me bol rahi lori kya kya, maine sapane sajaaye rasiya
rimjhim rimjhim barkha barase nain more tarse
aa jaa aa ja ghar more piya
san san hava dole ghunghat mora khole lage na jiya..
…………………………………………………………
….to be contd.
AK ji;
Another vintage song that I missed to post….
“Ghar Ghar Mein Diwali Hai Mere Ghar Main…” by Ameerbai Karnataki.
Film: Qismat-1943. Music: Anil Biswas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYLC4KmQ56M
AK ji ,
Movies of the 50s had a great charm of witnessing the best designed houses of low , medium and high income society . I loved the sets of Deedar , Aan, Andaz, Awara, Pyassa, Udan Khatola ….and so many others. The set direction was an institution in itself …..a great subject for young students of art and architecture .
Following songs are some of examples…..
Jab Se Balam Ghar Aaye – Nargis – Awaara – Lata Mangeshkar…SJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV2tpIUz0_4
Ghar Aaya Mera Pardesi (HD) – Nargis – Raj Kapoor – Awaara songs – Lata – Manna Dey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf334WjKQI0
Ghar Aaya Mehmaan Koyi
Singer: Lata Mangeshkar
Music: Naushad
Lyrics: Shakeel Badayuni
Film: Uran Khatola, 1955
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYuLwBsMNJ8
…..to be contd.
AK,
Great theme, songs are good too but AK I feel warmth is lacking, mainly because you have set the bar so high at SOY.
Song # 4 “basti” would be “abode” or “society”?
Dr. Shetty has mentioned the song I p thought of posting
But as he has not posted it I will do that, I think it fits like a tee.
Do panchhi do tinke Tapasya kishore Kumar Aarti Mukherjee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDXjrfVPXtI
An interesting theme and a wonderful collection of songs.
Not sure if this song will find a place here..
Nayee Manzil Nayee Rahen,
from Hill Station , 1957 .
MD – Hemant
Singers .. Lata – Hemant
https://youtu.be/W4_B18CO3JQ
SOHNI MAHIWAL, 1984.
Asha Bhonsle, Shabbir Kumar; Anand Bakshi,Anu Malik.
Bol do meete bol Soniye
Bhed dilon ke khol Soniye..
…
…
Jee karta hai is mitti se
Tere liye main Ghar ek banaoon
Is duniya se door kahin
Tujhko le jaaoon…
QSQT, 1988
Udit Narayan,Alka Yagnik; Majrooh Sultanpuri, Anand Milind.
Akele hain toh kya gam hai
Chahe toh hamare bas mein kya nahin?
…
.
Ab ye nahin sapna
Ye sab hai apna
Ye jahan pyar ka
Chota sa ye Ashiya bahaar ka
Bas ek zara
Saath ho tera…
AK ji,
A very simple but novel theme. Only on SOY.
Every newly married wife dreams of her own home, where only she and her Balam will enjoy. I found a song having content conforming to what you had in mind for this theme. Surprisingly song is from a 1977 film ” Aap ki khatir”-77, sung by Lata and Bhappi Lahiri.
Pyara ek Bangla ho
Bangle mein gaadi ho
Usme mera Balma anadi ho…. (Rekha/Vinod Khanna)
Hope it fits the theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=78&v=6u5eVhS5veM
Ghar – home- plays a key pivot to one’s life.
SoY has deservedly presented the longing for home in the form, style and impatience that the subject deserves.
Enjoyed listening to the songs, as much as love to be back home after every visit away from home.
A very nice theme. KL Saigal was my father’s favourite and he usually hummed this song ‘ik bangla bane nyara’. I think everybody has the same dream. Write up is small but informative. About songs I would agree with Mumbaikar8 and would also say what she did not say. There is too much of Kishore and his khandaan and so many new songs going against the tag line of SOY.
“But the brick, mortar and cement do not make a home, nor even the lavish interiors and fittings. it is living with the people you love that does.”
What a true statement. But, this song needed to be in the main selection. ‘Tumse hi ghar ghar kahlaya’, Shailesh singing to his bhabhi Meena Kumari in Bhabhi ki Chudiyan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeNOjqL7SqI
You also talked about lovers’ dreams. The comic song ‘ashiq hoon apne pyar ke jauhar dikhaunga’ from Kaun Apna Kaun Paraya depicts it in a very funny style – naturally because Johny Walker is involved. I had selected this one for Ravi-Shakeel but as it fits more in the theme of this post, I am posting it with lyrics which are just wonderful.
आशिक़ हूँ अपने प्यार के जौहर दिखाऊंगा
नज़रें मिला के दिल में तेरे घर बनाऊंगा
दिल की ज़मीं पे डाल के बुनियाद प्यार की
दीवार इक उठाऊंगा सबरो करार की
फिर उसमें इंतज़ार की खिड़की लगाऊंगा
उल्फत की शानदार इमारत के वास्ते
लाऊंगा आसमान से तारे भी तोड़ के
मखमल न मिल सकेगी तो आँखें बिछाऊंगा
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTeyq8XrPc
The video song does not contain full lyrics so I am posting the audio version also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5-YGdMigDQ
There is one more antara in the film only
नक्शा बड़ा अजीब है दिल के मकान का
मुश्किल से इसमें होगा गुजर मेहमान का
और मेरा क्या है मैं तो कहीं बैठ जाऊंगा
AK jee,
Please do me the favour of giving the YT link. It’s a sweet song befitting the the great theme you posted.
Rani Hoon Ghar Ki, 1957, Film -Abhiman, Geeta Dutt, Anil Biswas, Indeevar. Chand Usmani enacted this song.
Regards.
Tere dil makan saiyan bada alishan – Rafi, Asha – Do Ustaad – OPN – Qamar Jalalabadi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yJ_DnCUXLs
Shachindra Prasad
Here is the link for this beautiful song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPJ9hGMQ2OE
AK @ 18
Thanks for your comment and understanding of the song I quoted.
I still feel that it is the other side of unhappiness in the House/home.
“House is not a Home” a Hollywood film.
The Indian word “Ghar” includes both the meanings building and happiness, family. stability etc.
Here is the part of lyric from the famous film “Phir Subah Hogi” 58
which tells the want of “Ek Bangala Bane Nyara”.
“चीन-ओ-अरब हमारा, हिन्दोस्ताँ हमारा
रहने को घर नही है, सारा जहाँ हमारा
चीन-ओ-अरब हमारा …
खोली भी छिन गई है, बेन्चें भी छिन गई हैं
सड़कों पे घूमता है अब कारवाँ हमारा
जेबें हैं अपनी खाली, क्यों देता वरना गाली
वो सन्तरी हमारा, वो पासबाँ हमारा
चीन-ओ-अरब हमारा …
जितनी भी बिल्डिंगें थीं, सेठों ने बाँट ली हैं
फ़ुटपाथ बम्बई के हैं आशियाँ हमारा
सोने को हम कलन्दर, आते हैं बोरी बन्दर
हर एक खोली यहाँ है राज़दाँ हमारा
चीन-ओ-अरब हमारा …”
This is a neo reality against the dream of “Ek Bangala Bene Nyara”.
It is wonderful to know so many have tried to explore various lyrics and ideas behind them. A very good forum indeed.
Incidentally as you have began your post with the Saigal’s very famous add l sweet song I tried to find if there was any post on Saigal.
There is not but we get information from the New Theatres and other films. I think somebody should do an expert account of this singer par excellence.
Shalan Lal
AK @14
Can we sing the song ‘tadpao ge tadpa lo’ by Lata from Barkha to Dr Shetty who continues to tease us by not posting links. 🙂
The second line of the mukhda also has the word ‘dar’ so we can say this fits the theme also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQFz0EN3wLM
This film had another sweet – by the way sweet is the synonym of Chitragupta for me – song, ‘wo door jo nadiya bahti hai’ in which a brother and sister tease each other as Dr Shetty is teasing us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5fv67Kj1Pc
Mother India had the song ‘pi ke ghar aaj pyari dulhaniya chali’ which also fits the theme. This film also has ‘o jane walo jao na ghar apna chhod ke’. The use of ghar here widens the theme to your village or country or watan whatever you say. Can we say that when we remember our country our home is in our mind. In that case songs like ‘ae mere pyare watan’ and chal ud ja re panchhi’ would nicely fit. But the song ‘pipra ke patwa’ from Godan should fit because he is going to home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T0QiUiMNuw
As also ‘ab char dinon ki chhutti hai’ from Aas Ka Panchhi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjTqX8toJ-8
Remembering a fauji, ‘main ye sochkar’ also came to mind because his home was broken before being made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTG4Uy-NhFU
Shalanji
The song, the lyrics of which you posted was written by Sahir as a parody on Iqbal’s ‘sare jahan se achha’. Kindly change the last line of the lyrics as given below:
हर एक कुली यहाँ का है राजदाँ हमारा
PREM NAGAR, 1974.
Kiska Mahal hai
Kiska ye Ghar hai
Lagta hai Sapna Sapna..
…
…
Prem Nagar hai apna, O Ratna
Lata Mangeshkar, Kishore Kumar; AB,SDB.
On Kaka’s remembrance day, I suddenly remembered Pushpa,I hate tears and O Ratna!
AKji, Hansji, Shalanji,
Still on tour. Unable to write much from my phone. Posting a Nazm “Makaan” by Kaifi Azmi
https://youtu.be/DMMoJRVQ2oY
Kaifi Azmi recites the above Nazm for Balraj Sahini in the film Sonr ki Chidiya (1958)
https://youtu.be/OsifISqyFQ4
Hans ji ;
I am taking some liberties to take refuge in new address …Dil as home / house…..
kesi ke dil me rehna tha .. shamshad begam .. lata mangeshkar ..film babul….Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRMcF03VZ7s
Duniya Badal Gayi Meri Duniya | Shamshad Begum, Talat Mahmood @ Babul |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKd7lK4BU0s
AARAM (1951) – Man mein kisi ki preet bhasa le – lata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyNQg7zaIfQ
Movie : Sangdil
Music Director: Sajjad Hussain
Singer: Asha Bhosle and Geeta Dutt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTM7kX3_tLs
Dil Ek Mandir Hai Title song ( Dil ek Mandir )….Rafi, Suman…SJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvQw43h0Y48
….to be contd.
Hans ji;
In continuation some more songs….
MERA NANHA KANHAIYYA GHAR AAYA RE -LATA -PT.NARENDRA SHARMA -SUDHIR PHADKE-BHABHI KI CHUDIYAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY0GcgkjG80
Main To Bhool Chali Babul Ka Des (HD) – Saraswatichandra…KA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s12QqQ_jA5c
Aashirwaad – Jhir Jhir Barse Sawani Ankhiyan – Lata Mangeshkar….Vasant Desai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–jROL3bMAw
…..to be contd.
Hans ji, Venkatramanji;
Dilip, Dil, and god’s ghar……
Insaaf Ka Mandir Hai Yeh (HD) Mohd. Rafi – Amar 1954…Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwcyzKsNjaM
Aana Hai To Aa Raha…..Rafi…. Naya Dour 1957….OPN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpHDzsgmcPI
DIL MEIN SAMAA GAYE SAJAN -LATA -TALAT MEHMOOD -RAJINDER KRISHAN-SAJJAD (SANGDIL 1952)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA78_REjmlY
….to be contd.
Bhatiaji,
What about this song from Actress (1948), by Shamshad Begum, music Shyam Sundar, lyrics Raja Mehdi Ali Khan……
Hope it fits the bill. I have taken the liberty of posting this song, since it contains the following lines………
ho more aangna, ho more aangna
kukdoo kun ki taanen lagaa ke
kahe murgi se
….……………………..
ho murgi mohe bangle ke baahar milna
ho murgi mohe bangle ke baahar milna
tohe biscuit khilaaun, tohe coco pilaaun
tohe biscuit khilaaun, tohe coco pilaaun
apne saahab ke sofe pe tujhko bithaaun
mohe bangle ke baahar milna
mohe bangle ke baahar milna
o ho ji mohe bangle ke baahar milna….
murga bola kasam uski khaake………………………….
mere dil ki kothariya pe
mere dil ki kothariya pe
to-let ka board
murgi jaldi se taala lagaaye le………
https://youtu.be/fNFlx4SdKqw
Aswin @23,
Didn’t nursery rhymes always talk of a dreamland. Disneyland’s central feature is the ‘Magic Kingdom’. Nice song on ‘ghar’
Canasya @24,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Several readers have referred to Cheen-O-Arab hamara….Rahne ko ghar nahi hai sara jahan hamara. As Hans has mentioned later, this was a satire on Iqbal’s Saare jahan se achcha Hindustan hamara. Deprivation can be seen in dystopian way. There is also the Charlie Chaplin way to look at it in a lyrical way which does not make it any less stark. Vittorio de Sica has become synonymous with Bicycle Thieves. Once I happened to see his Il Tetto (The Roof, 1956) – a wonderful story of poverty, deprivation and race to complete the house before the deadline when the authorities star catching up. And de Sica presents the best of human spirit, co-operation of the community, and hoodwinking the authorities with wry humour and empathy. This trailer gives you an idea of this nice film by a great filmmaker on the theme of ‘ghar’.
Trailer of Il Tetto (1956), by Vittorio de Sica
Never heard of renting by the ceiling area, and sloping walls to distort the rent. In Japan and Hongkong people have accepted that they have to live in matchbox-size apartments.
KS Bhatiaji @28,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation and sharing the clip from Shree 420. This was a film showing the aspiration of the poor to have their own home. Hear the Shanta Apte’s song from Apna Ghar for the first time. Hers was a very sweet voice, but somehow her songs were not commonly heard during the radio days, unlike all other singers of the Vintage Era.
@29,
Ghar ghar mein Diwali hai has been mentioned by Shalan Lal @9.
@30,
Nice songs.
@47,
If you include ‘dil’ in the sense of home, there would be endless songs, and selection would be difficult.
Mumbaikar8 @31,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. And I also read your qualifying remarks. I can only say that this was one of the posts I wrote spontaneously.
‘Basti’: If you take literally, ‘society’ or ‘habitation’ would be closer, but since the lovers are by themselves I took it to mean ‘abode’. Many readers have given songs with even wider scope.
S Joseph @32,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Nayi manzil nayi raahein is a wonderful songs and fits with the theme in spirit. Thanks for adding it.
Dr Shetty,
Thanks a lot again for adding some more songs. Other readers also have started clamouring for the links.
Arunji @34,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Pyara ek bangala ho is a very nice song, and fits perfectly. Thanks for adding it.
Ashokji @35,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation.
Hans @36,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Tumse hi ghar ghar kahlaya perfectly signifies that its is the people who make the home. Thanks a lot for adding it.
Aashiq hun tere pyar ka: Thanks a lot for adding it. You can trust Johnny Walker can do a perfect comic take on a deeply sensitive theme.
@41,
Requesting Dr Shetty for song links is now becoming a chorus. if there is a link I always click it to listen to it. Without the link I almost invariably do not take the trouble to search it. But to be fair to him, he is not teasing us. I think he once mentioned that he was not able to figure out how to do it, and some readers guided him.
Wo door jo nadiya bahti hai is one of my great favourites. In fact, you have echoed what I have earlier said about Chitragupta, that when I hear his songs the word that comes to my mind is ‘sweet’. That is why I always mention him when I talk of Lata Mangeshkar and Rafi’s best songs. Rafi is out of this world when he sings ‘Dekho wo baadal awara, phirta hai kyun maara maara‘. Talking of Rafi and Lata Mangeshkar both oozing honey, I think of Chitragupta’s Teri aankhon mein pyar maine dekh liya‘
@42,
‘Desh’ ‘deshwa’: It was quite common to use these words in the sense of ‘home’.
N Venkataramanji @45, 46,
Thanks for adding the Kaifi Azmi’s nazm ‘Aaj ki raat bahut garm hawa chalti hai/ Aaj ki raat na footpath par neend ayegi‘ in both the versions. When I heard Kaifi Azmi reciting it, I got thoroughly confused because I heard him saying ‘Aaj ki raat ab footpath par neend ayegi, but this must be because his voice lacked sharpness when at times the words were not clear.
Shalan Lal @40,
Canasya has also referred to the ‘other side’ of home which is not so rosy and romantic. And you can see my respoonse @52. A director or write can present the deprivation in a bitter way, in a lyrical way, in a humorous way, without minimising its starkness.
KL Saigal has so much been a part of our psyche that I never really felt the need to write a lot on him. Yet he comes very frequently in our discussion. You also seem to have missed a specific post on his non-film songs I wrote long back.
https://www.songsofyore.com/best-non-film-songs-of-kl-saigal/
Ak,
I am glad my thought was not baseless; in past you have handled much less emotive subjects excellently, missing here.
So, spontaneity is your forte
“Many readers have given songs with even wider scope”. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
The “basti” is like this one.
https://youtu.be/qAIUR0mAG_4?t=273
Adding one regressive song
gori babul ka gharwa char diwari lata
https://youtu.be/o-jGGA46wnI
Correcting comment # 62
So, spontaneity is not your forte 🙂
Mumbaikar8 @62, 63,
Understood your comments. The ‘regressive’ song is a part of our cultural context. Today in most middle class and upper class families, married daughters or sons live away, and they are equally at home in their parents’ home. I remember Anuradha Warrier once said that in Kerala the whole concept of ‘bidaai’ song of sadness is alien. But coming from a traditional background from the central belt, I have seen that the eyes of not only the family members, but also others present at the ‘bidaai’ are moist.
AK,
Not considering “Bidai” songs regressive.
In Mumbai too, not only family members even the neighbors have moist eyes.
The lyrics of this particular Bidai song is regressive.
gori babul ka gharwa ab hain bideswa
saajan ke charno me ghar hain tera
ho gori chaar diwari angna ataari
yahi teri duniya ye jag hain tera
Mumbaikar8,
But ‘bidaai’ songs generally had similar lyrics. If your objection is to ‘Saajan ke charno mein ghar hai tera’, I am with you as a person of modern sensibilities. But even this was considered normal. Till a couple of centuries back, all societies had similar views about the place of wife, only the idiom and metaphor would change relevant to that culture.
The iconic ANARKALI song:
Ye zindagi usi ki hai
Jo kisi ka ho gaya..
..
..
Ise majaar mat kaho
Ye Mahal hai pyar ka…
Staying with Bidai songs, this one from TRISHUL, 1978 refects the traditional views.
Baap ka Ghar kya
Bhai ka Ghar kya
Aaj samajh sab ko anjaan
Ladki jis Ghar mein palti hai
Us Ghar hoti hai mehmaan..
Jaa ri behna jaa
Tu apni Ghar jaa…
AK ji,
Can we touch upon the basic units of a Ghar?
Hum Tum ek kamre mein bandh ho… BOBBY.
Aap ke kamre mein koi rehta hai… YAADON KI BAARAAT
Chori chori chupke chupke tere mere bina is kamre mein aur kaun hai?… BULLET.
Shyam dale khidki tale tum seeti bajaana chod do…. ALBELA
Mere saamnewali khidki mein… PADOSAN
Ye khidki jo bandh rehti hai…MAIN TULSI TERE AANGAN KI
The desire of staying away and separately was always there . Only it is now that this has become possible / easy and common in India.
I am sure this deeply in love couple in this song mean that they want their home far away from the crowd. The have not openly mentioned ‘Ghar’ . Obviously when they want to go away they have to have a home there . This song was released as early as 1959.
Song ..’ Duniya walon se door..’
From ‘Ujala’ (1959)
Singers .. Mukesh – Lata
MD … Shankar Jaikishan
https://youtu.be/_440Sihu81c
Dr Shetty,
If we start ‘judging’ the songs like Tumhin mere mandir tumhin meri pooja, tumhin devata ho tumhin devata ho, we would find many songs which will make you cringe. I had covered ‘Angana’ and ‘Atariya’ songs. Now it seems we can go nano and cover ‘kamara’ ‘khidki’ ‘darwaja’ too separately. Interesting idea.
S Joseph,
Duniyawaalo se door is a beautiful song, and yes, the sense is the same.
Mumbaikar8@63
When AK is spontaneous Kishore comes naturally to him. 😉
For AK ji’s spontaneity and Kishore Kumar:
Musafir’hoon yaron
Na Ghar hai
Na tikhana…. PARICHAY.
Raah pe rehte hain
Yaadon pe basar karte hain..
…
…
Aise ujde Aashiyan mein tinke ud Gaye
Basthiyon tak aate aate raaste mud Gaye
Hum tahar jaayen jahan
Usko shehar kehte hain…. NAMKEEN.
Coming from a farming family but being the son of a teacher, the land is always in the background. But the land where I could get my hands dirty was always the back and front yards of rented houses. This continued after studies and jobs whenever one could get a ground floor apartment.It was the strong urge to own my piece of land that led to buying a house. No farming but gardening has been the mainstay for some time. And of course dreaming of film songs and sequences while sitting the backyard, mostly from the films of forties and fifties.
AK @64
I remember that SSW had made the comment about Kerala bidai thing. May be Anu had also said that somewhere. In Kerala the ratio of population between Hindus and Christians + Muslims is almost 50-50. Since these two religions marry their cousins who are considered sisters in Hindus, the concept of Bidai is diluted enormously. I dont know to what religion SSW belongs but there may be large pockets where the ‘non-bidai’ religions dominate and others are naturally influenced by the majority. So they may not be aware of all this. I do not know whether Malyalam films have ever shown a bidai song or not. SSW also said once that in India there has not been a tradition of songs outside films which is so far from truth that his claim about the bidai thing comes under a cloud. SSW is a genius beyond doubt, but some times smaller things escape a genius.
Christians have a different culture. For Muslim girls, in most cases, nanad-bhojai, jethani-devrani are cousins and saas is a mami-fufi, so it is not very different in sasural. But, for a Hindu girl, some kind of indoctrination before the bidai was necessary in the form of bidai songs, because she was being uprooted and planted in a new house. An expert mali would tell you that after planting a sapling give it through watering. The theory behind it is that the plant would attribute the temporary disturbance of its roots to water and adapt well to the new environment. In olden times the mayaka intervention was less, so marriages endured well. Now the mobile phones and speedy transport put mayaka in quick reach so in India too marriages are breaking. Remember Kora Kagaz, wher phone was the villain.
I think this men-women debate is not going to take the society forward. Connecting lyrics with this is real bad. Some women cannot enjoy the great Lata ghazals ‘aapki nazron ne samjha’ and ‘hai isi men pyar ki aabroo’ because the lyrics are regressive. But, men easily enjoy the Mukesh classic ‘jo tumko ho pasand wohi baat kahenge’ despite it saying ‘tum din ko agar raat kaho raat kahenge’. 🙂
Women actresses have started calling themselves actors and have also forced others to follow suit. Now I am waiting for the day, we would be asked to call a woman a MAN. 😉
The MASHAAL song that came before SADAK.
Footpathon ke hum rehnewale
Raaton ne paala hum woh ujale..
…
..
Maa nahin Baap nahin
Jaise jiye paap nahin
Na koi Ghar Na koi Darr …
…
..
Bachpan mein khele gam se
Nirdhan gharon ke bete..
The dames in GRIHASTHI, 1963 are upbeat prior to the Bidai.
Khile hain sakhi aaj phulwa man ke
Jaoongi Sasural Dulhan banke..
..
Bajegi mere Ghar shehnai..
It is now settled in this post that a home cannot be complete without a wife. Suppose you have got a wife for your sweet home, what you have to do keep her in good humour. The answer has been provided in the film Panchayat in the song ‘pyari meri ramdulari’ (singer not known) – MD Iqbal Qureshi – lyrics Shakeel Noomani
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezJz3W4Chbk
But suppose you are not happy – which might many times be the case – what then. The answer is again in film Pati Patni, where both Sasur-Jamai, Om Prakash and Mehmood choose to criticise their wives behind their backs and avoid the repercussions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0olsI5cDkU
But suppose you be brave and try to take her on directly as KK did in Adhikar ‘kamata khoob hoon lekin kamai doon jati hai’ or more recently in Aaj Ki Taja Khabar, ‘mujhe meri biwi se bachao’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVFmhd5AhyU
In that case you will have to face the music and do what Ashok Saraf did in Meri Biwi Ki Shadi. Ramdulari maike gayi by Suresh Wadkar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TIHSwHdGqo
Or sing in solitude ‘maike se aaja biwi ri, tere pyar men ho gayi tb’ with the combo of Rafi, Ravi and Raja Mehndi Ali Khan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtyENcQvkw8
The last stanza of this Anil Biswas gem concludes with the line: ‘Mila kya jalaakar mera aashiaana’:
‘Zamaane ka dastoor hai yeh puraana’ by Lata & Mukesh from ‘Lajawaab’ (1950), MD – Anil Biswas, Lyricist – Prem Dhawan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJK24ZZpUAc
Hans ji,
If you are overjoyed by your wife’s leaving for Maika, you can sing and dance merrily like Jeetendra in AKALMAND, 1984.
Meri Biwi maike chali gayi
Baadal patanga Sitara ban gaya hoon
Logon main phir se kunwara ban gaya hoon..
Kishore Kumar,AB,LP.
Gaddeswarupji
I understand you fully, being from a farming family myself. For people like us to be doing what our ancestors did is a longing as important as a longing for your own house. When I was working in Delhi, my heart felt excitement when I saw the clouds which to the urbanites were the harbingers of usual hazards. Even after more than a quarter of century of living in flats, my dream was to live in rural environment. I had built a house in a HUDA sector in a city, but it had the solace of only front and back lawns, you were talking of. Recently my son wanted to build a house and we decided to have it in rural environment. City is about 8 km. In what would have been the cost of a house built in 250 sq.yds. in the sector we built a house with one acre of land with double space inside. In the last winter we grew our own wheat crop without chemical fertilizers and we have planted fruit trees of our own which will yield fruit in 3-5 years. We get milk from neighbourhood and bring all other ration from the city. School and hospital are about 5 km, reachable in about 10 minutes which is not possible in big cities.
Though AK wants us to believe that nobody builds a house in old fashion, but I supervised the house in grime and dust myself, though there was a contractor to look after the labour.
But we are enjoying the fresh environment and doing some sort of farming also for growing our own vegetables.
Dr Shetty
My wife had no mayka or just ‘udhar ka mayka’, because her mother had died prior to our marriage and she had no brother, so there was no occasion for this song. But, for people like us Shakeel thought of another song ‘hum bhi kash kanware hote’ sung by Rafi in Wanted (MD Ravi). The song ends with the lines
घर में न होती बीवी तो यारो हम भी कहीं दिल हारे होते
So I can claim that the song fits the theme also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7YJAlPFLl0
Ashwin
The sentiment of ‘jala aashiyana’ is best expressed in the song ‘kal chaman tha aaj ik sahra hua’ by Rafi in Khandan (Ravi, Rajendra Krishan). In that house like the dream of Saigal ‘rahe kunba jisme sara’ was a reality. But, by the manoeuvres of Lalita Pawar, Om Prakash felt like
सोचता हूँ अपने घर को देख कर हो न हो ये है मेरा देखा हुआ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8p-L_4ScfU
The ustads Salamat Ali Khan and Nazakat Ali Khan sing a thumri in Raga Pahadi that they popularized :
‘Saiyyan bina ghar soona’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLeLuXMcQ5E
The thumri was later adapted to film:
‘Saiyyan bina ghar soona’ by Lata Mangeskar & Bhupinder, from ‘Aangan ki kali’ (MD – Bappi Lahiri, Lyricist – Shaily Shailendra)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_OzdMV0JuQ
Here is a link to Ustad Amir Khan’s LP recording of Raga Malkauns. The drut bandish ‘Aaj more ghar aayila balama’ starts at 14:44.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMidQAtLxLU
The lyrics of the bandish,. courtesy bandishein.org:
आज मोरे घर आइल बलमा
करूंगी अदारंग सो रंगरलियाँ
अतर अरगजा सुगंध बसन पेहेरूं
फुलवन सेज बिछाऊँ चुन चुन कलियाँ
थक गयी मैं तो जी पानी भर भर के
तेरे सारे घर की गुलामी कर कर के
Says Lata in the form of Geeta Bali in the film Pocketmaar. Song ‘balma anadi manga de ghoda gadi’ composed by the great Madan Mohan and lyrics by the great Rajendra Krishan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_c8KtCJXBU
And look at Johny Walker refusing to go to his beloved house even though she is giving him her address. ‘Char batti ka nishan’ from Ghar ki Laaj.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rHK32NrJl8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rHK32NrJl8
A rendition of Raga Salagvarali Todi by Shaswati Mondal. The text of the sthaayi of the vilambit khayal is
‘Aaja badhaai baaje sakhi nand mahal janam liye brij raja dulaaro’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19_vn3TUz4A
The introduction of the raga into the Hindustani Music paddhati, as well as the 2 bandishes rendered by the artiste, are credited to musicologist/musician S.N.Ratanjankar.
‘Chhoti munh, badi baat’ but my crib is that such a sombre raga does not befit the theme of such a joyous occasion as the birth of a baby, and no ordinary baby at that but the Lord himself…
My though
Here is ‘Lau lagaati geet gaati’ written by Pt.Narendra Sharma and sung by Lata to Sudhir Phadke’s tune. The film is ‘Bhaabhi ki chhodiyaan’ (1961).
The last antara concludes with the line ‘Har ghar main har suhaagan mangal rahe manaati’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t42xnGydLqo
The tune is based on the Raga Yaman Kalyan
Lata and Asha come together under SJ’s baton to sing ‘Manbhaavan ke ghar jaaye gori’ written by Shailendra for ‘Chori Chori (1956).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heKu7MD4QU8
Hans @76,
You must have observed that the daughter’s ‘bidaai’, and it’s association with all pervasive sadness, has to do least with religion and more with how the society is structured. In the traditional Chinese, other Asian and Latin American societies, the son-daughter differential, the marriage and bidaai ceremonies and the feeling of उत्सव के बाद का अवसाद are very similar.
@79,
This stereotyping also belonged to an era which is gone.
@82,
You are lucky to be enjoying best of both worlds. This is surely an exception.
I was greatly touched by the movie SAARANSH, 1984, ( what a superlative performance by Anupam Kher!) and it’s song:
Andhiyara gehraya
Soonapan ghir aaya
Ghabraya man mera
Charno mein aaya..
…
Pathon tinke ka bana tha Ghar mera
Beh gaya beh gaya , Ab kahan Basera?
Bhupinder Singh, Vasanth Dev, Ajith Varman.
Here are two of Lata’s earliest recorded Marathi bhavgeets. They are actually a pair, the first one being a ‘bidaai’ song while the 2nd one is a song sung by a mother-in-law welcoming her newly-wed daughter-in-law to the home. While I am not sure whether both were released together on the same 78 rpm (request Arunkumar Deshmukhji to throw light on this), I am certain that the first song was released in 1948. The song was written by the prolific P.Sawalaram and set to music by Vasant Prabhu. The trio went on create several gems in the ‘bhavgeet’ genre in the years that followed.
‘Ganga jamuna doLyaata ubhya ka, za muli za deelya ghari tu sukhi raha’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ACO_7uaN_0
‘LimbaloNa utarata ashi ka zhaalisa ga baawari
Muli tu aalisa apulya ghari’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HYVS5wUMuc
Here is a beautiful Kannada Bidai song which ends with the bride’s Souten singing welcome to her.
KITTURU CHENNAMMA, 1961, was a well made historical movie on the warrior queen by B R Pantulu.
Aalakke hoovilla
Saalakke koneyilla….
S Janaki,Komala and chorus; G V Iyar, TG Lingappa.
https:// youtu.be/ UBnTslek85w
While we have Do deewane who search for a Abudana/ Aashiyana day and night,we also have Deewane who don’t feel the need for a home. A loving glance is sufficient for them! ( Did I hear someone saying ..they will come to their senses after exchanging some loving glances over a period of time?)
ZANJEER….
Deewane hain deewano ko
Na Ghar chahiye
Mohabbat bhari
Ek nazar chahiye..
Narayani is another raga introduced by S.N.Ratanjankar to Hindustani Classical Music. Here is an extract of the rendition of the raga by Malini Rajurkar in which the chhota khayal that she sings is ‘Sahelariyaa gaao ri aaj’ (it starts at 4:17) , again a creation of Ratanjankar and based on the theme of Krishna’s birth. The last line of the antara goes ‘Nanda ghar jaayo kunwara kanhaai’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv-Rx8CfzZ0
Rashid Khan reprises what is probably the most well-known chhota khayal in Raga Jog: ‘Saajan more ghar aaye.’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye9YnDbyeVk
Here is a live performance of ‘Jamuna kinaare mero gaaon, saanware ai jaiyyo’ by Kumar Gandharva.
The first antara of the song goes thus:
‘Jamuna kinaare meri oonchi haveli’
Main braj ki gopika naveli
Radha rangeeli mero naam
Bansi bajaake jaiyyo
Saanware ai jaiyyo’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imOS1VpBIcs
Ashwin ji,#93
Thank you very much for posting the evergreen Gem Bhavgeets in Marathi. These songs were necessarily played in almost every Marathi marriage since 1950 onwards.
The new generation , ofcourse, is not aware of this.
I do not know if these songs were released at the same time.
-AD
Ashwin @96,
I have to especially thank you for giving the link of Malini Rajurkar’s rendition in Raga Narayani. As I was listening to it mesmerised, I could sense the reason. And it was confirmed when I read a discussion forum that in aaroh it follows Durga. Other ragas mentioned were Sur Malhar, Gorakh Kalyan and Sorath – all my great favourites. I understand she sang this at Sawai Gandharva Festival in 1992 or 1993, and it achieved great fame. Thoroughly deserved. Thanks again.
Ashwinji,
My knowledge of classical music is absolutely zero. I can never decipher how Narayani is different from any other raga.
But listening to Malini Rajurkar is delightful. She sang so well. Thanks for quoting this superb song.
AK ji;
Its amazing …just two days and crossing century of comments. It seems many Mohit sharmas have joined and playing with no dropped catches. Here is a booster of Naushad’s songs …..your Favorite MD.
gaye ja geet milan ke..Mela1948_Mukesh_Shakeel B_Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdW0Vd4p-uk
mehlon mein rehne wale hamen Rafi_Shamshad Begam_Shakeel B_Naushad_Shabab1954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvWZ4NctdQk
Chhod Babul Ka Ghar (Female) (HD) – Babul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1JO7WiWIRk
…to be contd.
N Venkataraman @50;
Thanks for the lovely parody song from ….Actress . Heard for the first time and enjoyed the dance as well.
This prompts me to post two funny songs and everyone will enjoy as they too are of rare categories.
Bane Hai Hum to Ghar Jawai – Ghar Ki Izzat…. Music by Pundit Gobindram. This song is sung by Ram Kamlani.[ Gope’s brother ?]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B2x6yNS6UY
Now , my childhood favorite song …..
Hum To Tere Dil Ke Bangle Me Aana Mangta GM Durrani Shamshad Begum Film Magroor (1950)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKLuqPHENqk
Mr. S Joseph @70;
Some how I remember your favorite MD is Shankar Jaikishan . All the songs of Ujaala were good . In fact F C Mehra / SJ combo gave many hits and its a pleasure recalling the songs and the movies they did together. With central theme as Ghar here are a few from RK movies that still needs attention of SoY members…..
Awara hoon….[ ghar bar nahin ….]
Awaara Hoon – with Lyrics – movie -Awaara –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9nGpqOILYY
[ Ek Ek Tinke Tinke se Panchhi ka ghar ban jaata hai…]
Raat Gayi phir Din – – Boot Polish – Asha – Manna Dey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmkHhmw8V5E
Now two more songs from Old movie….New Delhi. This was a hit movie of the mid 50s….for its comedy and musical content. All the actors gave their best performances ….enjoyable till its end.
First bidaai song…..
GORI TERE SAPNO KE SAJNA”BY LATA ,M:SHANKER JAIKISHAN-“NEW DELHI-1956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFjoe9DAYZ8
ARE BHAI NIKAL KE AA GHARSE”BY KISHOR,M:SHANKER JAIKISHAN-“NEW DELHI-1956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJYCv3QNLvU
…..more to continue.
AK @ 100,
The pleasure is entirely mine. Actually I had wanted to add a comment, specially for you, pointing out the proximity of Durga to Narayani but I got distracted and forgot to do so. BTW, I am not sure whether Malini Rajurkar sang Narayani in 1992 or 1993 but I was present when she rendered it at Sawai in 2011.
Before I forget, let me point you to another raga which is close to Durga – its name is Arabhi and it is from the Carnatic and Odissi traditions. One of Thyagaraja’s pancharatna kritis – Saadhinchane – is in this Raga – it is my most favourite of his kritis. Here is a rendition by the Bombay Sisters, C.Saroja and C.Lalitha:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajeYF2DQ5E8
This beautiful Arabhi pallavi, composed by Bhubhaneshwar Misra and choreographed by Kelucharan Mohapatra, is part of the standard Odissi repertoire. Here is a performance by Kelubabu’s daughter-in-law, Sujata:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp46Kvze4cY
Lastly, there is a beautiful natya pad from the play ‘Sangeet Manapmaan’ – ‘Chandrika hi zanu’ which is based on this raga. It was written by Kakasaheb Khadilkar and set to tune by Govindarao Tembe. Here is Asha’s brilliant rendition of Master Deenanath’s version – he had very ingeniously changed the taal to rupak . Also, in many of her improvisations, she sticks to the realm of Durga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KI4VNP-iEA
Shacindraji @ 101.
The pleasure is entirely mine. I am glad you liked the piece.
The Lata-Kishore duet, ‘Accha to hum chalte hain’, penned by Anand Bakshi and tuned by LP, from Aan Milo Sajna (1970) has a mention of ‘ghar’ and a mention of ‘gharwale’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeUyzVMwJTI
Hans ji ;
You did right making your house in the lap of nature. Good sunshine , pollution less surroundings and plenty of fresh air available at any moment of time. I am impressed with your agricultural interests too. Growing fruits and vegetables in your own yards is a great satisfaction….always handy to eat fresh direct from the source. My son in law is in america and he is utilizing backyard of his house for his agricultural hobbies . I will share the videos and fotos when we meet next time. I have made a ten minute documentary covering the vegetable growing in size as times move on.
Well Global Warming is a matter of concern for all the countries ….we at our level needs to check fuel warming too . ,…with everyone adding vehicles by hours pollution warming is going for multiple progression. The environment will continue to deteriorate until pollution practices are abandoned.
Continuing with some more songs….starting with your favorite punjabi song…..
Beti Bal Ke… (Bhangra)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPdFEuU9fU4
JIS GALI MEIN TERA GHAR NA HO BALMA —- Kati Patang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSlgV-91Ho8
Naa Bol Pee Pee More – – Dulari – s – Shamshad Begum…Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmEzcCBSdQM
….to be contd.
Gangubai Hangal’s soulful rendition of ‘Kab ghar aayo piya’, a cheez in Raga Chandrakauns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jAoPqKh5uk
AK,
This 45 rpm recording of the Gorakh Kalyan cheez ‘Eri mori aali piya ghar aaye’ by Salamat Ali and Nazakat Ali Khan is especially for you:
https://soundcloud.com/archismanmozumder/salamat-nazakat-ali-khan-raag-gorakh-kalyan
Padma Talwalkar rendering the well-known bandish ‘DheeTa langarwa kaise ghar jaaon’ in Raga Hameer, followed by a tarana in the same raga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NyfJir90ac
And for those who find Brajbhasha a challenge, here is the same bandish rendered in English 🙂
‘O naughty Krishna’ rendered by Kiran Phatak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-0jHhOkk_M
Venkataramanji @ 45
Thanks for the beautiful nazm by Kaifi Azim.
Ashwin,
Thanks for the spring of classical and non-classical songs enjoying each one.
AK,
गंगा बहती है तो हम भी हाथ धो लेते है
@ 86 Ashwin has posted bandish of aaj more ghar aayila,
my good fortune Dr. Shetty as well as bhatiaji have not posted mora piya ghar oo ramji.
Let us have aaj more ghar piya aayila in Qawwali Mera by Nusrat Ali Khan
https://youtu.be/iJB7Z-T04sY
Hans @ 73 next
I had exactly the same thought when I read his reply but felt I had had enough of leg pulling.
Did not know you will come up with that.
@ 76
Now you know why I did not use “Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ.” @ 112
Your comment # 76 your reason for Indian marriages breaking seems like a page from Hindi movies of 60s.
“I think this men-women debate is not going to take the society forward. Connecting lyrics with this is real bad.”
Men women debate have begun in last 25 or 30 years how forward was our society before that?
gori babul ka gharwa ab hain bideswa
saajan ke charno me ghar hain tera
ho gori chaar diwari angna ataari
yahi teri duniya ye jag hain tera
What is bad in calling these lyrics regressive. I did not say it should not be written; lyrics are character’s demand but they are regressive.
Just imagine a bride’s friend singing “ sajni ke charno me ghar hai tera” would that be acceptable?
Hai issi me pyar ki aabroo had regressive thinking.
I do not have problem with romantic aap ki nazron ne samjha but like this better
जी भर के देख लीजिए हमको करीब से
फिर आप के नसीब में यह बात हो न हो.
We want anything other than being treated like an equal “human”
Talked a lot about regressive lyrics let us listen to a progressive one Aurat written in 1940s by Kaifi Azmi
Warning Urdu dictionary needed.
https://youtu.be/LNtSTsunzZo
Text from Rekhta
uTh mirī jaan mire saath hī chalnā hai tujhe
qalb-e-māhaul meñ larzāñ sharar-e-jañg haiñ aaj
hausle vaqt ke aur ziist ke yak-rañg haiñ aaj
ābgīnoñ meñ tapāñ valvala-e-sañg haiñ aaj
husn aur ishq ham-āvāz o ham-āhañg haiñ aaj
jis meñ jaltā huuñ usī aag meñ jalnā hai tujhe
uTh mirī jaan mire saath hī chalnā hai tujhe
tere qadmoñ meñ hai firdaus-e-tamaddun kī bahār
terī nazroñ pe hai tahzīb o taraqqī kā madār
terī āġhosh hai gahvāra-e-nafs-o-kirdār
tā-ba-kai gird tire vahm o ta.ayyun kā hisār
kauñd kar majlis-e-ḳhalvat se nikalnā hai tujhe
uTh mirī jaan mire saath hī chalnā hai tujhe
tū ki be-jān khilaunoñ se bahal jaatī hai
taptī sāñsoñ kī harārat se pighal jaatī hai
paañv jis raah meñ rakhtī hai phisal jaatī hai
ban ke sīmāb har ik zarf meñ Dhal jaatī hai
ziist ke āhanī sāñche meñ bhī Dhalnā hai tujhe
uTh mirī jaan mire saath hī chalnā hai tujhe
zindagī jehd meñ hai sabr ke qaabū meñ nahīñ
nabz-e-hastī kā lahū kāñpte aañsū meñ nahīñ
uḌne khulne meñ hai nik.hat ḳham-e-gesū meñ nahīñ
jannat ik aur hai jo mard ke pahlū meñ nahīñ
us kī āzād ravish par bhī machalnā hai tujhe
uTh mirī jaan mire saath hī chalnā hai tujhe
goshe goshe meñ sulagtī hai chitā tere liye
farz kā bhes badaltī hai qazā tere liye
qahr hai terī har ik narm adā tere liye
zahr hī zahr hai duniyā kī havā tere liye
rut badal Daal agar phūlnā phalnā hai tujhe
uTh mirī jaan mire saath hī chalnā hai tujhe
qadr ab tak tirī tārīḳh ne jaanī hī nahīñ
tujh meñ sho.ale bhī haiñ bas ashk-fishānī hī nahīñ
tū haqīqat bhī hai dilchasp kahānī hī nahīñ
terī hastī bhī hai ik chiiz javānī hī nahīñ
apnī tārīḳh kā unvān badalnā hai tujhe
uTh mirī jaan mire saath hī chalnā hai tujhe
toḌ kar rasm kā but band-e-qadāmat se nikal
zof-e-ishrat se nikal vahm-e-nazākat se nikal
nafs ke khīñche hue halqa-e-azmat se nikal
qaid ban jaa.e mohabbat to mohabbat se nikal
raah kā ḳhaar hī kyā gul bhī kuchalnā hai tujhe
uTh mirī jaan mire saath hī chalnā hai tujhe
toḌ ye azm-shikan daġhdaġha-e-pand bhī toḌ
terī ḳhātir hai jo zanjīr vo saugand bhī toḌ
tauq ye bhī hai zamurrad kā gulū-band bhī toḌ
toḌ paimāna-e-mardān-e-ḳhirad-mand bhī toḌ
ban ke tūfān chhalaknā hai ubalnā hai tujhe
uTh mirī jaan mire saath hī chalnā hai tujhe
tū falātūn o arastū hai tū zahrā parvīñ
tere qabze meñ hai gardūñ tirī Thokar meñ zamīñ
haañ uThā jald uThā pā-e-muqaddar se jabīñ
maiñ bhī rukne kā nahīñ vaqt bhī rukne kā nahīñ
laḌkhaḌā.egī kahāñ tak ki sambhalnā hai tujhe
uTh mirī jaan mire saath hī chalnā hai tujhe
ksbhatia ji,
Taking forward RK_ SJ combination…
MERA NAAM JOKER, 1970.
Ae bhai jara dekh ke chalo
…
.
Tu jahan aaya hai
Woh tera
Ghar nahin
Galee nahin
Gaon nahin
Koocha nahin
Basthi nahin
Rastha nahin
Duniya hai ye…
Manna Dey and SJ won the Filmfare awards for the song.
And, then, RK dropped SJ and signed LP for BOBBY.
Na chahoon Sona Chandi
Na chahoon Heera Moti
Ye mere kis kaam ke..
Na maangoom Bangala baadi
Na maangoom Motor Gaadi
Ye toh hai bas naam ke…
क्या बम्बई क्या पूना सैयां बिना घर सूना says this song ‘o dilwalo matwalo humse shadi karwalo’. Taqdeer (1967) – Rafi – Laxmi-Pyare – Anand Bakshi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-72EvSfqdVw
तुम परदेस गए जब से
बस ये हाल हुआ तब से
दिल दीवाना लगता है
घर वीराना लगता है
झिलमिल चाँद सितारों ने
दरवाजों दीवारों ने
सबने पूछा है हम से
कब जी छूटेगा गम से
कब होगा उनका आना
पप्पा जल्दी आ जाना
Lata in film Taqdeer. This was from the same film as above, but the sentiments were so different from the earlier song that I am posting it separately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke5QWnrvVbo
Two legendary ones:
PYASA…Ye mahalon ye takhthon ye tajon ki duniya….
TEESRI KASAM..
Sajan re jhoot mat bolo
Khuda ke paas jaana hai..
…
Tumhare mahal chaubare
Yahin reh jaayenge pyare…
I bet this one is difficult to remember:
MAHAL,1969.
Rafi, AB,KA.
Faisla ho jaayega bus aaj se parda nashin
…
..
Jab kiran muskurayee
Chandni raat aayee
Chand se tere Ghar ka
Hum pata pooch lenge…
SURAJ AUR CHANDA…
Tere Naam ka deewana
Tere Ghar ko doondta hai…
BOBBYY
Ye phasa…
..
Jiska choota Gharbaar sansaar..
AK,
Who doesn’t yearn for a home of his/her own? Even those who live on platforms/sidewalks feel happy to get back to their ‘own place’.
You have chosen an interesting topic. The mere fact that the comments touched a century shows how it has attracted the readers of SOY. Although I, like Hans ji, feel that the choice of songs from 70’s and 80’s is a bit out of place for SOY.
Shower of songs from the readers, especially Dr.Shetty and Bhatia ji, and discussion on other topics have made it more interesting.
Thank you all.
Ashwin,
I went over your links again. It is interesting Salamat Ali is occurring repeatedly in your posts. And in a unique coincidence S Gopalakrishnan just sent me a Khamaj Thumri by Salamat Ali with his son Sharafat Ali (He has been singing with him after the death of his brother Nazakat Ali), and amazingly its bandish is also similar to what you have posted later @98.
Nadiya kinaare mora gaaon, Khamaj Thumri by Salamat Ali and Sharafat Ali
@86,
Ustad Amir Khan’s Aaj mora ghar ayila baalama in Malkaus is great as usual.
@88,
Even with a more chhota munh I agree with you. Todi is not suitable for a joyous celebration of Krishna’s birth. I wanted to post Kumar Gandharva’s Aaj Nand ke dwaare bheer, a very fast composition. But it is nowhere on the Internet. There is a rendering by one Nachiketa Sharma, but I don’t want to post that. I am sure you can locate Kumarji’s (with Vasundhara Konkali) piece. But here is another beautiful composition by them for the same occasion.
Uthi uthi sakhi sab mangal gaai by Kumar Gandharva and Vasundhara Konkali.
But all this managal gaan, badhaai was preceded by great suffering for Krishna’s real parents. Here Devki is pleading with Vasudev to think of some means to take away the child from the evil designs of Kans.
Aho pati so upaay kacchu keeje by Kumar Gandharva and Vasundhara Konkali
@105,
Thanks for introducing me to Arabhi. The Pallavi is out of this world.
Chandrika hi janu: Once I have been enchanted by Ustad Abdul Karim Khan, it is difficult to relate to any other singer. But we can’t talk of them in the same breath, they belong to different worlds.
Chandrika hi janu, Raga Durga by Ustad Abdul Karim Khan
@111,
Pardon me, but I thought Kiran Pathak was mocking the whole thing. I am not surprised by angry comments on the YouTube. I do see your smiley, but if he was trying to create comic effect it was quite misplaced.
Dr Shetty @74, 77, 78, 81, 92, 94, 95, 115, 116, 119, 120, 121
Amazing flow of songs, and impressive recall of ‘ghar’ embedded even deep inside a song.
KS Bhatiaji @48, 49, 102,
I am enjoying your Naushad and SJ retrospective.
Mumbaikar8, Hans,
I am not quite clear what the joke is about. I can see AK, some smiley, and mention of Kishore Kumar, but let it pass. I am enjoying your perceptive comments and interesting songs you have posted. Especially Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan’s Mera piya ghar aya. This has been blatantly imitated in a film song. And Hans’s parody songs.
Giriji @122,
Thanks. I realise I could have dome more efforts for finding songs from the Golden and the Vintage Era. The ultra popular songs like ‘Ghar aya mera pardesi’ I wanted to avoid. Now I am happy that I have kept the focus of the blog on the 1930s through 60s.
Here is a gem of a song from Hemant ‘jab jaag uthe arman’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34jn_qf0yII
And a question to AK.
Melord, when your favourite singer’s song contains ‘ghar’ in the mukhda and in a very innovative way too, why this was not in your list.
This gem of his has it in the antara
अजब है दीवाना न दर न ठिकाना
जमीं से बेगाना फलक से जुदा
There is no need to name the mukhda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax0gD5lCEgg
Now a couple of gems from Manna Dey, both have a ‘ghar’ in the mukhda.
Laga chunri men daag chhupaun kaise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD5Pe4k3myI
Mere ghar se pyar ki palki chali gayi
ghar mera ujad gaya zindagi chali gayi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKj7LIu57uk
Aji biwi ko ghar men bithlake – Minister – Asha, Rafi – Rajendra Krishan – Madan Mohan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFaH1OIioWk
Disclaimer : I dont agree with any of the regressive sentiments and I agree with every progressive sentiment expressed in the song. 😉
The same thing ghar ki biwi and bahar ki mehboob is there in ‘tum kaun’ by Rafi in Phool Aur Patthar – Shakeel/Ravi.
घर की बीवी छोड़ के भैया इधर उधर जो जाते
ऐसे पापी इस दुनिया में चैन कहीं ना पाते
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxXueAcv3c4
Hans @128,
Frankly, Jab jaag uthe armaan did not occur to me. My great favourite. But even if I had remembered I would not have included it. I was looking for songs with focus on ‘ghar’, and one which is ethereal and in a dream land. Hence Pyar ka jahan ho, chhota sa makan ho; Chhota sa ghar hoga baadalon ki chhaon mein etc. This has led you to crack some jokes which turn out to be flattering to Kishore Kumar 🙂 . He must be doing one of his crazy, comic dances in heaven. I have mentioned earlier that as a playback singer in the Golden Era, I placed him after all the principal singers like Rafi, Mukesh, Talat Mahmood, Hemant Kumar etc. But I admire his overall talent, especially as a comic actor.
PADOSI, 1941.
Pandit Sudarshan, Master Krishna Rao.
1. Saari duniya Musafir
Aao rahe pyar se
Ye jag do ghadiyon ka dera
Jaise chidiya raat Basera…
Singers?
2. Uth meri pyari beti
Raj Dulari beti
Aaj hai Bhaiya duj
…..
…..
Pag pag phulwari phoole
Ghar mein chayi khushiyan
…
Bhayi aaye mere dwar
Singers ?
https:// youtu.be/ _ WYH95ulhpY
3. A delightful song with a mention of gharwar in the end.
Kaka Abba bade khiladi
Ek duje se rahe agadi
…
..
Jal jaaye chahe gharbar
Gopal, BalakRam, Balwant Singh,Mulia.
https:// youtu.be/ llc8p5fjJHO
( Do watch. You will enjoy it.)
HOUSE NUMBER 44 , 1955
Sahir,SDB.
Hemant Kumar
Teri duniya mein jine se
Toh behattar hai ke mar jaaye
..
Koi toh aise Ghar hota
Jahan se pyar mil jaata…
Asha Bhonsle
Tum chalo hamare saath balma, dariyo na
Aag lage bangle mein….
NAGIN, 1954.
Lata Mangeshkar, Rajinder Krishen, Hemant Kumar.
Jadugar Sainya chodo more bainya
Ho gayi aadhi raat
Ab Ghar jaane do..
In ae bhai jara dekh ke chalo, the counting is from Ghar to Duniya through
Gali, Gaon, Koocha, Basthi and Rastha.
In PRATIGYA,1975, the counting is in the reverse order.
Pardesi aaya des mein
Des se mere gaon mein
Gaon se mere gali mein
Gali se mere Ghar mein
Ghar se! Ghar se? Ghar se?
Ghar se mere dil mein..
Lata,AB,LP.
JORU KA GHULAM, 1972.
Aayiye aap ko main apni bangle ki sair karaoon
Chota sa is parivaar ka aap se mel
Karaoon..
Kishore Kumar,AB,KA.
The dancer whose Nazar laagi on Raja’s Bangla in KALA PANI, 1958 ..
If she were to be a koyaliya, she would kuhku rehti on his Bangla.
If she were to be rain bearing clouds,she would Baras rehti..
Bela chameliya…lipat rehti..
Dulhaniya………matak rehti..
Asha Bhonsle.
Dilwale Dilwale hum teri gali tak aa pahunche..
..
Shehro shehro phirte huye..
…uthte ghirthe huye aa pahunche
…
Tere dar tak aa hi gaye
Aakhir tujhko paa hi gaye..
( Since they have reached the dar,I assume they will enter the Ghar unless prevented by the Darwan!)
Rafi,Asha.
Majrooh,SDB.
AK @53
When in response to Bhatiaji posting a song of Shanta Apte, you said nice things about her, I wanted to say something but forgot.
From what I heard from my father and also what I have read about her, Shanta Apte was a rage in her times both in Marathi as well as Hindi films. Films were sold in her name like Suraiyya later. But, we have never heard her praised like Devika Rani or Leela Chitnis or Khursheed or Kanan Devi or Shobhana Samarth or Noor Jehan or Nargis. She simply made her contribution and retired into a peaceful home life. I would request Aruni to tell us something substantial about her, outside the wiki page.
Hans @ 137
Thanks for bringing in a vintage actress and her singing. She was more popular in Marathi films than in the Hindi of the New Theatres.
She was a trained actress on the Marathi Musical stage. Her career started in once what was known as “Mela” mini musical plays and skits popular in Maharashtra during the Ganesh Puja festivals. She started her career along with her brother who later on became her agent.
It was reported that the editor of the “Film India” Baburao Patel wrote something ill about her in his well known filmy magazine.
Shanta Apte went to his office and dragged him out and caned him in front of his staff.
The incident became very well known.
Her final years of life were very bad. Like Meena KUmari she got addicted to alcohol and died by over drinking it.
She is very much remembered for her film “Duniya Na Maane” directed by Shantaram.
Shalan Lal
Hans @43 and AK as well later on
Sahir’s lyric in Phir Subah Hogi” “Chino Arab Hamara” is very little Parody on Iqbal’s song सारे जहाँ से अच्छा हिन्दोसिताँ हमारा .
I think these two lyrics are very different from each other.
When Sahir wrote his lyric he wanted to have a comic or rather satirical look at the Marxist idea of “no property owning” more so” a communist brotherhood” of creating common world.”
Sahir was communist when he started his literary career and also in the film world. Then he became very rich. At the time of Phir Subha Hogi” Sahir had two flat in the expansive posh world of Bombay and also drove in very expensive cars. He was no more a communist.
He used the lines from the Iqbal poem song for his purpose. Sahir’s lyric is not to invoke Iqbal’s patriotic song. hence no parody.
On its own Iqbal’s song supposedly loved by Gandhi and other patriotic leaders at the time of pre- Independence days.
The Iqbal song has real good intention.
The song presents the very idea of 2Ghar and larger Ghar the Mother India.
I just quote some verses here for the audience
सारे जहाँ से अच्छा हिन्दोसिताँ हमारा
हम बुलबुलें हैं इसकी यह गुलसिताँ हमारा
ग़ुर्बत में हों अगर हम, रहता है दिल वतन में
समझो वहीं हमें भी दिल हो जहाँ हमारा
परबत वह सबसे ऊँचा, हम्साया आसमाँ का
वह संतरी हमारा, वह पासबाँ हमारा
गोदी में खेलती हैं इसकी हज़ारों नदियाँ
गुल्शन है जिनके दम से रश्क-ए-जनाँ हमारा
ऐ आब-ए-रूद-ए-गंगा! वह दिन हैं याद तुझको?
उतरा तिरे किनारे जब कारवाँ हमारा
मज़्हब नहीं सिखाता आपस में बैर रखना
हिंदी हैं हम, वतन है हिन्दोसिताँ हमारा
यूनान-ओ-मिस्र-ओ-रूमा सब मिट गए जहाँ से
अब तक मगर है बाक़ी नाम-ओ-निशाँ हमारा
कुछ बात है कि हस्ती मिटती नहीं हमारी
सदियों रहा है दुश्मन दौर-ए-ज़माँ हमारा
इक़्बाल! कोई महरम अपना नहीं जहाँ में
मालूम क्या किसी को दर्द-ए-निहाँ हमारा !
Tragedy is that he later on converted himself to the “Idea of the Separate State for Muslims”
He could not use his song there. In India he was tried to be forgotten.
But I think his song is a very good piece of literature and will not be forgotten in India.
About correcting the word I cannot do it as I have no mechanism to do it.
But as you have pointed out the mistake we should take is as correction done.
Shalan Lal
Hans ji, Shalan Lal ji,
Shanta Apte’s DUNIYA NA MAANE has two songs relevant to the post.
Ek tha Raja Ek thi Rani
Dono par chayi thi Jawani
….
..
Prem Nagar ke ek Mandir mein
Dono hilmil rehte the..
Shanta Apte.
Saawan jhoola jhool ke nikla
Bhadon ke aayee bahar..
…
..
Aayee Diwali chamakan lage Ghar dwar
..
Shanta Apte,Vasanthi.
JIS DESH MEIN GANGA BEHTI HAI
Mera naam Raju Gharana anaam
Behti hai Ganga jahan mera dham…
DIL EK MANDIR
Hum tere pyar mein saara aalam
Kho baithe hain..
…
Panchi se chuda ke uska Ghar
Tum apne Ghar mein le aaye..
SOLWA SAAL
Hai apna dil toh awara
Na jaane kis pe aayega..
…
..
Ajab hai deewana
Na Ghar na Tikhana..
DHARAM VEER
Main galiyon ka Raja
Tu Mahalon ki Rani
Arre maine tujhko chaha
Ye hai meri mehrbani…
Shalan Lal@ 139
I agree with you that Iqbal had good intention, unlike Jinnah (who was just a politician) he was a believer and had good intentions for both his country and his religion.
This article seems a well-researched one.
http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00litlinks/naim/ambiguities/13iqbaljinnah.html
Dr Shetty @134,
I am impressed by your sharp observations of ascending and descending movements related to ‘ghar’
Mumbaikar8 @143,
Thanks for linking the article. I am not sure it gave me a new insight, because the argument seemed to be laboured. This part of the history is not only a matter of archival records, but also interpretation, ideology, perceptions, personal biases. Since I refrain from going into the political thicket on this blog, I stop here.
AK,
I apologize for my action, having lived in US for more than two decades, I do not understand the gravity of giving personal perspective on political personalities in public.
Though thanking, I can feel your are disturbed by the article I have posted.
I truly understand your stand.
Please feel to delete comment # 143 and all the related comments.
I sincerely regret.
AK @ 123,
Thanks for sharing the Khamaj thumri. Had never heard it before but the tune of the mukhda is in one of the 2-3 standard templates that most Khamaj thumris come in. Please listen to this Khamaj thumri by Girija Devi to understand what I mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtZpVifiTR8
Also, Salamat Ali started singing with his son much before Nazakat Ali’s death. The brothers had a fall-out after which Salamat Ali started singing with his son. In fact, Salamat and his son did an India tour in 1978 or 79 as part of which they performed at the Music Academy. My father and grandfather had taken my brother and me to the concert. I had just started my taaleem then and I do not remember much of what happened but one thing stays clearly in my mind – the disparaging comments of my grand-uncle, an old-school connoisseur and impressario who was also in attendance, on what he felt was playing to the gallery by Salamat Ali :).
Unfortunately, I was not able to locate neither Kumarji’s original nor Veena Sahasrabuddhe’s rendition (which is also very good) renditions of ‘Aaj nand ke dwaare’ on the Internet. What a composition!!!
Thanks for sharing the other 2 bhajans of Kumarji’s. I am pretty familiar with the first one but the 2nd one is new to me.
When it comes to ‘Chandrika hi zanu’, I have always liked Khansaheb’s rendition but I am not blown away by it like I am each time I listen to Asha’s rendition. I know you differ in your opinion but as the cliche goes, we can agree to disagree.
As for Kiran Pathak, he is very serious about what he is doing as is obvious from some of his other videos on YouTube.
Jhilmil Sitaron ka Angan Hoga, Jeevan Mrityu, this song certainly deserves a place in your list.
Thieves and theft are every house owner’s biggest fears!
DO CHOR, 1972.
Kaali palak teri Gori
Khulne lagi hai thodi thodi
Ek chorni ek chor ke Ghar karne chali hai chori.
RAJA RANI, 1973.
A rare case where lines from antra of a song are used as a mukhda of another song in the same movie.
1. Main ek chor Tu meri Rani
Chori chori le chala main
Tumko tumse hi chura ke
.
Hum dono ne dekha hai ek sapna
Kahin pe chota sa Ghar hai apna
Angan mein uthri hai Chandni raate
Kishore Kumar, Lata Mangeshkar.
…
2. Hum dono ne dekha tha ek sapna
Kahin pe chota sa Ghar tha apna
Angan mein uthri thi Chandni raate
..
Na tumse huyi na humse huyi
Dono se Mohabbat ho na saki
…
Can’t resist a song I like very much that has a reference to the basic unit of a home…
Jab andhera hota hai
Aadhi raat ke baad..
….
Log bandh kamre mein
Chain se jab sote hain
…
CHOR MACHAYE SHOR, 1974.
Le jaayenge le jaayenge
Dilwale Dulhaniya le jaayenge
..
Mere paas Kothi hai na car Sajni
..
Kothi Bangla na mujhe car chahiye
Dil chahiye dildar chahiye
..
CHOR KE GHAR CHOR, 1978.
Dulhan bhi hai Baaraati bhi hai
Dosth bhi hai Saathi bhi hai
Par Dulhe Raja koi aur aa gaye
Chor ke Ghar chor aa gaye.
The second song from RAJA RANI is a Lata solo.
A nice parody song from EK DIN KA BADSHAH, 1964.
S Balbir,Surendra Kohli,Mahinder Kapoor, Kishore Varma & chorus; Gulshan Bawra, Hansraj Behl.
Woh aaye Ghar hamare
Khuda ki Kudrat hai
Kabhi hum unko
Kabhi apne Ghar ko dekhte hain..
Ek din ka Badshah yoon besahara ho gaya
Jaise ek shadishuda phir se kunwara ho gaya..
…
…
Laut ke banda Ghar ko aaya hai
Ghar bhi apna nahin paraya hai..
….
Hum jahan pe milte woh Ghar chaubara ho gaya..
…
Hans ji , Ms Shalan Lal ji @137 onward ;
I love vintage style mixed with glamour and old world charm. Shanta Apte perhaps fits into that fold and her acting and singing skills were sure to be front runner of those times. In 1977 , Shyam Benegal came up with one beautiful film….Bhumika….wherein he mastered the art work of bringing back the long lost world charms of old vintage glamour in cinema. The narration, the glamour and art thru beautiful classical music was all in place powered by exceptional performance by everyone. See for yourself how closely Samita Patel bring back the reminder of Shanta Apte in this song….
Tumhare Bin Jeena Lage (HD) – Bhumika Songs – Smita Patil – Preeti Sagar….Vanraj Bhatia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvwKn4ni6co
After Shanta Apte leaving the doors ….Suraiya was ready to take over. Again an actress with great glamour quotient and every thing added extra in her unique style of acting impressing everyone from Gregory Peck to Dev Sahib . Her singing abilities under every big banner MDs made her most sought after heroin of those social movie eras.
A collection of her songs fitting the bills are…..
TALAT MAHMOOD & SURAIYA Ghar tera ghar WARIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7aiiJrRbGc
ulfat ki zindagi ko mitaya na jayega [ yeh ghar ujaar gaya to basaya na jaayega]..Suraiya _Shakeel_Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hpe9_SpNV0
DIWALI KI RAAT PIYA GHAR AANE WALE HAI- SURAIYA- FILM- AMAR KAHANI(1949)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyr4r8IqFiE&t=122s
Saanjh Padi Na Ghar Aaye Kanhaiyya (HD) – Shama Parwana Songs – Suraiya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtagCrTfnH0
Station Master 1942 : Sajan Ghar Aaye : Rajkumari & Baby Suraiya : Md Naushad : Lyrics PL Santoshi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3IdFktOteU
Will add more…..
Mumbaikar8 @146,
No apologies called for. You simply linked an article with some innocuous comments. I was not disturbed, I didn’t carry forward the discussion because the topic is politically loaded.
Ashwin @147,
Thanks a for linking Girija Devi’s Khamaj.
Salamat Ali mentions at the beginning of the video that he has been singing with his son for ten years. Before that he was singing with his brother, and after he became ‘Khuda ke pyare’, the son came on board. But you must be right. This must have been a more dignified and acceptable way of explaining the new pairing.
Hans ji , Ms Shalan Lal ji , AK ji ;
Some more songs are making ques at the door of Ghar . Releasing them for fair entry….should fit the bills.
Ye Rail Hamari Ghar Ki | Rajkumari, Prem Adib | Station Master
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA9Nc3p-1WY&t=115s
Prem Parbat-Mera Chota Sa Ghar-Lata-Music-Jaidev
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkkOEiWwSgE&t=13s
Bachpan Ki Muhabbat [ ghar meri umeedoan ka ….]…- Baiju Bawra – Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pBvSbAf1qg
Rim jhim barse badarwa.. piya ghar aaja..Johrabai Ambalavali-D N Madhok-Naushad..Rattan 1944
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mpU8MbXi1Y
Jhat Khol De Kiwad Pat Khol De / Afsar 1950……Manmohan krishna….SDB…
This song is a surprise for me . SDB going Punjabi folk way .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE5oqYi1RNQ
….to be contd.
Naghma @148,
In this song the focus is on ‘aangan’. Even though the readers have expanded it I concentrated on ‘ghar’ songs. But is a wonderful song. Thanks for mentioning it.
Dr Shetty @149, 150, 151,
Nice songs you have mentioned
KS Bhatiaji @152, 155,
You have added some all-time great songs. Thanks a lot.
Hans ji , Ms Shalan Lal ji , AK ji , Venkatraman ji;
A shabad from Guru granth Sahib….based on Raag Malhaar. Appropriate for the rainy season….
Baras Ghana Mera Pir Ghar Aya – Raga Malhar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31DKkNd4FJ0
AK @156
This means you have never seen or heard this song which is strange, because your favourite Lata is also the singer in this duet. The scene for this song opens with Dharmendra making a mud house and Rakhi bringing water. And look at the first antara. In fact this is the best song for the central idea of your post. Even better than the vintage songs at one and two. Even if we just take the mukhda, even then this song has a better claim than ‘aa mohabbat ki basti basayenge’ and ‘aa chal ke tujhe main le ke chalun’ where nothing relating to the house is mentioned.
प्रेम की गली में इक छोटा सा घर बनाएंगे
कलियाँ न मिलें न सही काँटों से सजायेंगे
बगिया से सुन्दर गोबन होगा
This is the first antara and during the whole of the song various household activities are being shown.
AK @ 153
I did not want to create any misunderstanding for an issue I do not even care about.
Whatever you think is best.
Thanks for the positive attitude.
Two songs with ‘Ghar’ from ‘Chaudhvin ka Chand ‘ 1960,
one a happy reference ..
1) Mera yaar Bana hai dulha…
MD ..Ravi
https://youtu.be/NHwEMEvwOWU
the other on ruining of a happy home..
2) Badle badle mere Sarkar…
https://youtu.be/h0V-CgaklJo
Mumbaikar 8 @ 139
Thanks for your good words about my comment on Dr Iqbal.
Thanks for the link as well. it is very helpful for my widening understanding.
Shalan Lal
ksbahtia @159 and at other places above.
The verse song from Grantha Saheb:
“Baras Ghana Mera Pir Ghar Aya – Raga Malhar”
is outstanding.
I always listen to the holy songs that come on one of the radio station here in London who play at five in the morning songs from Islam, Sikh and Hindu religion.
That starts my day with “Allah Ki Barakat”.
We all must be gratefully obliged to the Granthasaheb and Sikh religion for preserving the gems of raga based songs.
Shalan Lal
Bhatiaji @108
Yes. There is next to zero pollution from the vehicles. But, during the harvesting season, a number of farmers set fires. At those times we have to close the windows. But my grand-daughters are enjoying it and they have seen so many new creatures and birds which are impossible to see in city. Some days back a female Teetar laid eggs in our compound, which is safe from dogs, and nowadays she moves with her 7 chicks in the whole compound which is in half an acre. The chicks are likely to go out only after they grow up. Whenever we go towards the places the chicks are hiding in thick grass, she starts making sharp teetering voices and we retreat. There are about half a dozen squirrels which keep jumping around. My grand-daughters enjoy feeding them various things. They eat anything thrown at them, but they just love peanuts.
I am enjoying your songs a lot. I know you will keep on searching them through your minds eye.
Mumbikar8 @ 113
Debating with you is always a pleasure, because you are so understanding. It is good you did not use the word great for our minds, because then AK would have come with the idea that ‘negative minds always think negative’ 🙂
Our films in those days were the mirror of the society, though they normally exaggerated things. Whatever I said about marriages is true, if you dont agree then say so.
Regarding the men-women debate, it is wrong to say it started 25-30 years back. In films we have seen lyrics like ‘aaj kal ke gentleman’ ‘aaj kal ki nariyan’ etc since long. In 1957 film Miss Mary in the song ‘ye mard bade bedard’ there are these two lines
duniya ke sath chalo naya zamana hai ye
mardon ko dosh dena raag purana hai ye
What this suggests. Mr and Mrs 55 came in 1955. This can be an endless debate.
I would try to point to the root cause. If you see in nature with most of the animals the position is that male-female mate and after that male had nothing to do and rest of the work is done by the female. Some very intelligent person invented the institution of marriage which led to the formation of society. It is because of being a social animal humans are dominating the animal world and whole of the universe and upturned the theory of survival of the fittest. Otherwise humans with no big teeth no paws and a skin which cannot tolerate the softest injury would hardly have survived. So when marriage was envisaged the first to suffer curbs on freedom were males, who were earlier ‘azaad panchhi’. The restrictions were for both genders. Perhaps I earlier mentioned the case of my Mama. He was 6 feet, very fair colour, very handsome and matric in those days. My Nana selected for him my mami who was less than 5 feet, dark in colour and ugly and anpadh. My mama never complained and never touched my mami with a finger. He was the best of sons and in old age of my nana took his care in his own hands and used to show him around on his back. The principal reasons given by women are inequality and illiteracy. Do you know how many men were educated when India became independent. How illiterates kept others illiterate.
You talk about ‘hai isi me pyar ki aabroo’. Can you tell me what she should have done. Gandhi said if somebody hits you then present your other cheek. You may call this impractical or wrong, but can you call it regressive.
I would never call the lyrics regressive even if bride’s friends say worse than what you suggest. Look at this song from Gharana. There are a number of them in films. I enjoy them as well as the real ones in live marriages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yULW6HpAT6Y
Hans ji, Mumbaikar ji,
This Asha number from ANAMIKA is in the debatable zone of whether normal for the times or regressive!
Jaaoon toh kahan jaaoon
Sab kuch yahan hai
Tere Ghar ke baahar toh
Na duniya na deen hai.
Hans ji,
You must make your daughters listen to Teetar ke do aage teetar…and Ek chidiya Ek aur chidiya..
Living in a riverside farmhouse with five acres of hari bhari Vasundhara all around, I know what bliss it is. We have rented out our house in the city which is a stone’s throw away from my workplace and have shifted to the farm which is 8 km away.
Dr Shetty
The Anamika song is just a devotional song, nothing else. Listen to the complete song.
They are my grand-daughters (8 year old twins) and they listen to all types of songs from children’s songs to mature songs and all of them old songs like us.
Congrats to you for living in the farm house. You are lucky living near the river, in Haryana we cannot get a riverside place. 8 kms is hardly any distance these days.
But do you talk with ‘nadiya ke pani o re nadiya ke pani’ like Lata in Savera. She is missing her sajna but since home or any form of that is not mentioned so I am not posting the link.
Shalanji @138
If the incident about Shanta Apte and Baburao Patel is true, then I have become greater fan of her. This is a better way of teaching lessons to such people. But now the trend is that first use the links of big people for gaining benefits and after 15 years say ‘me too’.
Hans ji, # 137
I have some different write up on Shanta Apte.
I will put it on Open House.
I will also put something about her brother Baburao Apte, separately, on Open House.
Hope it will not disappoint you.
-AD
Hans ji,
Posted 2 articles in Open House.
-AD
Hans ji @165;
Living second inning , that too with your grandchildren in pure natural surroundings ….is really a bless . You truly become a child again as you play with them .
The relationship between a grandchild and grandparent is a very special one. Children are fast learners …they always follows what grand papa ask them to do. Your connecting them thru nature ….is a great effort in right direction . Your path is really a trail for them to follow .
We often compare our childhood to their present one . With high tech toys in their hand it is some time difficult to explain to them the plastic toys days that we enjoyed….when every toy priced at two annas !! . As a grandpa myself I am passing my learned skills …..Sketching , wood working , making model of houses or huts with waste papers like greeting cards , gardening and of course a little bit of cricket too. Family tree is most important for them to stay connected as they grow.
Now, continuing with some more songs …. Non filmi songs too. Well again from Radio Days but now of rare categories .
Lata Mangeshkar – Non Film (1973) – ‘saanjh bhayi ghar aa jaa’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Lsa6_8iNM
Baharon Se Keh Do Mere Ghar Na Aayein Mukesh Non Film Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQGYlAqGAao
badli se nikla hai chand,piya lout ke ghar aaja..Lata…Madan Mohan… Sanjog ,1961,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78pe3hlyRmE
Lata Mangeshkar – Woh Dekho Jala Ghar Kisika (Anpadh 1962)…MM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqbA5uH3jdk
….to be contd.
Hans @ 166
qāsid ke aate aate ḳhat ik aur likh rakhūñ
maiñ jāntā huuñ jo vo likheñge javāb meñ
I was ready with the response but not ready confidence you showed in my “being understanding” I am flattered
Honestly I am myself not convinced about that
I do not agree with you on that divorces happen because of Maika’s intervention.
Miss Mary song is different “mardon ko dosh dena “ was always there, mardon ki barabari karna started later and that’s when the tussle started.
“So when marriage was envisaged the first to suffer curbs on freedom were males, who were earlier ‘azaad panchhi’.”
Are you sure women were not azaad pachhi before institution of marriage, I have my doubts about that.
“How illiterates kept others illiterate.”
How more men became literates and women still remained illiterate?
I have no qualm, if a woman loves a jerk, that is her choice but when it is “pyar ki aabroon” or sansar ki sharm or dharm pe chalna then there should be a attempt made to change “ aabroon” or sansar or dharm
There can be no comparison between Char Diwari song Gharana song Gharan song is all fun and teasing that goes on at a wedding while Saajan ki charnon me ghar hai dera is like instruction.
Coming to case of your mama, this is exactly I was discussing earlier about over indulgence of parents in their children’s lives.
“My mama never complained and never touched my mami with a finger “
I wonder, was he punishing himself for not rebelling.
Did your mami’s wishes and needs ever crossed minds or it didn’t matter because she was a dark short and ugly woman
We hear the word Garibkhana frequently in devotional songs. But I don’t recall many instances of it being used in film songs.
SATYAM SHIVAM SUNDARAM, 1978.
LP.
Lata, Pt Narendra Sharma.
Sunee jo unki aane ki aahat
Garibkhana sajaaye humne..
( SITARA, 1980 had
Aap aaye Garibkhane mein , Aag si lag gayee zamane mein…
Asha, Gulzar,RDB. )
SSS again.
Eshwar Satya hai
Satya hi Shiv hai
Shiv hi Sundar hai
.
..
Ram Avadh mein
Kashi mein Shiv
Kanha Brindavan mein
Daya karo Prabhu
Dekhoon inko
Sab Ghar ke aangan mein
….
Lata & chorus, NS.
Rang Mahal ke dus darwaze
Na jaane kaun si khidki khuli thi..
…
…
Chod Piya Ghar naihar jaaoon
…
Lata, Bhupinder Singh; Vittalbhai Patel.
Chanchal Sheetal Nirmal Komal
Sangeet ki Devi Sur Sajni
…
..
Doli mein bith ke aayegi
Jab tu Sajan ke Ghar Sajni
..
Mukhesh & chorus, AB.
AAHUTI ,1950.
Ab toh hand mein hand nahin
Ab dil mein bajta band nahin
O My Dear…
Tum badal gaye
Tum pahle se husband nahin
…
..
Ab laut chalo Ghar ko
..O meri sister
Hawa watan ke lagte hi
Badal gaye Mister…
Uma Devi, Shanthi Varma; ? Tandon, D C Dutt.
BOMBAY KA CHOR, 1962
Hello ji Hello ji
Kaho kya ji?
Pyar ke sikha do mujhe ABC..
..
Suno mere Ghar mein bhi hai
Ek jagah baire ki khali
…
Asha, Kishore; Rajinder Krishen,Ravi.
SHARABI, 1984.
Jahan char yaar mil jaye
Wahan raat ho Gulzar
…
One o clock, in my House
There was a cat
There was a mouse
…
Kishore Kumar, Amitabh Bachchan; Prakash Mehra, Bappi Lahiri.
A song from ‘ NAI RAHEIN ‘ , 1959
SINGER .. RAFI .
MD … RAVI ,
‘ KAHAN TERI MANZIL KAHAN HAI THIKAANA …’
https://youtu.be/9OKOuMve9SY
A song from ‘ BOOT POLISH ‘ ,1954
‘ CHALI KAUN SE DESH GUJARIA…’
MD … SHANKAR JAIKISHAN
SINGERS … TALAT – ASHA
https://youtu.be/3coVpjGgopI
S Joseph @178 , Ms. Shalan Lal @164 ;
Thanks for posting this beautiful song from my favorite movie…BOOT POLISH . Such songs , I termed them as ….Third Stanza songs….that have deep meanings which connects you to…. God . Each line of this song points to God and his presence . ….Door desh mere pi ki nagariya . Nagariya here points to God’s house. As I said each line tells how you are connected to God.
In the movie only two stanzas are there. The complete song is of three stanzas….and the third stanza says it all . Here is the third stanza….
Do din jag me dhum
Machaye jake koyi
Wapas naa aaye
Khoj khoj thak jaye ho
Khoj khoj thak jaye do
Naina chand suraj ke
Jau piya ke desh o
Rasiya mai saj dhaj ke
Chali kaunase desh
Gujariya tu saj dhaj ke
Shailendra sang this song in the movie . He was master in writing such….Third Stanza songs…that one can easily get connected to God. Two such songs were there in Patita too ….Tujhe apne paas bulati hai teri duniya …and ….Andhe jahan ke andhe raste .
Third stanza of Kabuliwala …. Prem Dhawan’s famous song ….Aye mere pyare watan….is awesome. Here is third stanza which was there in movie also.
Chhod Kar Teri Zamin
Ko Duur Aa Pahunche Hain Ham
Chhod Kar Teri Zamin
Ko Dur Aa Pahunche Hain Ham
Phir Bhi Hai Ye Hi Tamannaa
Tere Zarron Ki Qasam
Ham Jahaan Paidaa Hue
Us Jagah Hi Nikale Dam
Tujh Pe Dil Qurabaan
Tu Hi Meri Aarazu
Tu Hi Meri Aabaru
Tu Hi Meri Jaan
Aye Mere Pyaare Vatan
Aye Mere Bichhade Chaman
Tujh Pe Dil Qurabaan
God is love and it is present every where . Prayers and worship gospel songs lift you in high spirits . So are such songs which makes you think and remind you of your connection to God.
Besides listening to Gurubani , I do listen to Jim Reeve’s gospel songs to stay connected . I will search such songs which fits the bill of this topic .
S Joseph , Ms. Shalan Lal ;
In continuation , here is the gospel song by Jim Reeves…that takes me to home above.
I’D RATHER HAVE JESUS with LYRICS JIM REEVES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1MTLZue3Pk
In which Meerabai says that food, home and hearth do not hold any attraction for her since her beloved is away:
bhojana bhavana bhalo nahin lagai
piya kaarana bhayi akeli
‘Kinun sanga khelun holi’, sung by Lata under Hridaynath’s baton. The raga is Yaman Kalyan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FTBgwBik5o
One significant outcome of this imaginative post and the subsequent conversations is discussion about Shanta Apte. I had not heard this sonorous, jingling voice before now. It is a pleasant surprise.
In bollywood there have been many films, which have revolved around the saving of ghar pariwar, most of them were serious business. But, there was a film Teen Bahuraniyan which came in 1968, which portrayed this problem in a comic way. There are two songs from that film which show different situations. In the first the teen bahuranian are singing when it is happy contented home. The second song shows the status of the home when ‘dekh parai chopdi’ but has bitten the three couples. Though the presence of ghar in the song may not be needed for them to qualify, because the songs are clearly talking about the ghar, yet the word ghar also appears in the antara. MD – Kalyanji Anandji and lyrics by Anand Bakshi.
Hamre angan bagiya – Lata, Asha, Usha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj7ZFcNMdJ4
Aamdani atthani kharcha rupaiyya – Asha, Kamal Barot, Mahendra Kapoor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n3rj-FMN9E
The idea behind the two songs posted at 4 and 5 by AK is present in a lot of songs. But this is a beautiful song.
Dharti se door gore badlon ke paar – Sangdil – Geeta, Asha – Sajjad Hussain – Rajendra Krishan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiZ7VTq2KwM
A song from the times when Naushad also composed fun songs.
Jan bachi to lakhon paaye, laut ke budhoo ghar ko aaye – Sanjog – Shyam Kumar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN-TOw_acfk
And if Naushad can compose a fun song, why cant CR do that.
O daddyji meri mummy ko satana nahin achha – Sagai – Lata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsm4JinSBSE
Shachindra Prasad ji;
One surprise that was stored for many . Shanta Apte probably was the first singer to sing an english song in that vintage era movie….Duniya Na Mane…produced and directed by V Shantaram in 1937. The Gujrati version was named as KUNKU . Music was by Keshavrao Bhole and English song was based on …..A psalm of life’…… written by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.
Some Of Life | Santa Apte | Duniya Na Mane @ Shanta Apte,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbHmcym_tmY
Continuing with the theme here are some more songs to add on…..
Mera Chhota Sa – Nirupa Roy, Lata Mangeshkar, Bhai Bhai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU7jJj64dn8
Man Bhavan Ke Ghar Jaye – Lata Mangeshkar, Asha Bhosle, Chori Chori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heKu7MD4QU8
Gaaye Jaa Geet Milan Ke (HD) – Mela… Mukesh….Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV3GI-HAeTw
….to be contd.
Mumbaikar8
The sher posted by you confirms my view about you as debater.
Maika intervention may not be the cause in the US, where the society has already gone to dogs and where the definition of society may be assembly for the sake of smoking joints. But, in India you can find society in hukka sessions or addas for men or folk songs or gossip talk among women or antakshri for children. So here intervention from mayka is one of the major causes of divorce and recently the greed of property of in-laws of daughter has added incentives.
Azaad panchhi you have taken in a different context. I was referring to sharing responsibility. Barabari karna is a funny thing. Nobody wants barabari, the fight is only for privileges. Women have always had more privileges than men. Arunji mentioned the story of Shanta Apte. Do you think what Shanta Apte did in whipping somebody or getting freedom from contract by satyagraha would have been available for men. The world is very unequal. Male and female are different, two females are not similar, two males as well as two mules are different. There is a great lady from US Serena Williams, who at 37 instils fear in women playing against her just by stepping on court, but can she win a set against even the 200 ranked man (John McEnroe said 700th ranked, I am giving her respect). I have seen in rural areas the oxen being given 10 kg of ghee in sowing season, when the whole of family was eating ‘bin chupdi roti’, because they were bread earners for the family. Work distribution and food distribution was as per the relevant needs in joint families. Men did not interfere in women’s work, so they expected women also not to interfere in theirs.
You did not answer my query about the film Anpadh, but have posed new questions. I dont know you have seen the film or not. Dharmendra was told that his wife is well read, so there was nothing wrong in his reaction when he came to know that she is anpadh. Mala Sinha did not know even cooking which was normal in those days. So it was her duty to set matters right by her good behaviour, which she eventually did. If she had gone to her brother’s house at the first instance he would have been heart broken. By that yardstick what is your thought on Shashi Kala’s reaction when she finds that her husband Dharmendra is not well read in film Devar.
My mama’s case I had mentioned just to show that rules were for all, because one of the rhetoric by the modern women to gain more privileges for themselves is to talk about the women not being given the right to choose in old times. My mama was fine with what he got in life. And the phrases like ‘punishing himself for not rebelling’ are just for film dialogues and will be found in psychology or philosophy books. My mami had full freedom in my mama’s life and after his death also she had her say with her sons. And being an ugly woman does not matter, because one beckon of the ugliest woman would make a dozen lovers flock. But, a handsome man will have to make extra efforts to get even one. That is how the nature is made.
Women are fast changing the sharm and dharm of the world. I have seen a lot of girls/women with very short baniyan like tops and underwear like knickers. I have never seen a male moving in a underwear-baniyan, if he can afford better clothes. If somebody even mentions their skimpy clothes then he is the azadi ka dushman.
About the song lyrics, the gharana song at least provides fun, the other song is just immaterial because the intended beneficiary when she goes to sasural, never gives a hoot to the lyrics and behaves as per her inclinations. I end with a regressive song which I and my wife both enjoy together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYEpT9LZ7-Q
Some songs from early 40s.
Biwi bole nahin kunda khole nahin – Sasural – Gyan Dutt – singers unknown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KupjhmlnsPw
Jeete desh hamara – Sikander – Sheela –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTblXjj3aTw
Saajan ghar aaye – Station Master – Rajkumari/Suraiyya – Naushad – Santoshi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3IdFktOteU
Bistar bichha liya hai – Hamari Baat – Arun/Suraiyya – Biswas – Narendra Sharma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDC8BXlng2U
AK ji ;;
Exit doors of college libraries always points to canteen. Exit from silence zone to hard sound zone was always a pleasure…and the smelling fries always over powered the perfumes. Doses of Dosas , Pakodas , Samosa , Coffee Tea and what not ……the whole hearted screams over jokes ….all headed to messed up lyrics and adding as chorus to silence left in library.
The quieter you become the more you are able to hear. Without the silence, we cannot hear the music. Silence is the least heard scream .
….. Such thoughts do come when life and music is in Pause mode. For me silence turns me to still images and I enjoy them recollecting my past also . Turning off the noise ….and tuning in the music is like watching visuals full of life …sea, birds, forest, landscape,history , operas ….so on. Untiring I watch beautiful Mp4 musical visuals thru beautiful orchestras like…..101 strings orchestra , Andre Reiu orchestra , most elegant orchestra …etc.
It is wonder as we turned to beautiful and rare songs ….. that still longs to listen to……
Jise Dundti Phirti Hai Najar – Sheesh Mahal….Music Director: Vasant Desai
Singers: Geeta Dutt & Mohd Rafi …[ watch handsome Pran is looking like ]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN3eWinzwKA
ye duniya musafirkhana hai…..Surang [ 1953]…Manna Dey_Sulochana Kadam_Shevan Rizvi_Shivram Krishna..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbcxJhqRa1U
SAUTAN KE GHAR NA JAIYO..” — SITARA DEVI –AABROO(1943)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7BgGzrnn3A
Ujad Gaya Panchi…. Ghar Ki Laaj
Music Director: Ravi
Singers: Mohd Rafi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux7pMIScMys
Husnwalo Ki Galiyon…. Sheesh Mahal [1951]
Music Director: Vasant Desai
Singers: Shamshad Begum [ Watch how close is the lyrics and tunes quite similar to Babuul’s Talat song….husn walon ki ]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ot1611GoUQ
….to be contd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ot1611GoUQ
KS Bhatiaji,
‘Without the silence, we cannot hear the music’ – nice one. Your wanderings are lovely. Songs are a bonus.
Bhatiaji
There is a lot of life, philosophy and history besides the poetical prose which is a food for our minds. Mention of history look odd, but the history of such minor events like canteen life, which you dish out teaches us more than the history books we are asked to read. And in addition you have broken the silence of this post.
Your mention of canteen worked up my memory. Once in college 5 of our team had gone to canteen for tea and snacks. Suddenly someone had the idea that there should be tea-drinking competition. One of us was our fast bowler who was notorious for drinking it real hot and he would finish it before our third sip. All of us knew he would win, but I gamely fought on when the other 3 retired. He would finish it and start chanting ‘jaldi kar, jaldi kar’ to pressurize me and I after each cup became slower and slower, though tea is called energy drink. I put my hands up after the 8th cup.
Hans ji @190;
I am following your comments elsewhere also ; but I knew back of your mind you still want more of …Ghar songs …as there are plenty but come out only using Bio-scope and Telescope .
During ten minutes break between lectures …a vada and a cup of tea was always my choice for hurried mini break . This helped me keeping myself awake during one hour lecture . Scenes similar to those shown in ….Three Idiots…were common in IIT .
Continuing my telescopic finds…..
Thumri- Sotan Ghar na Jaa – Raag Tilak Kamod by Iqbal Bano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKGW2mebcpw
Aaj Mere Ghar Preetam Aaye… Juthika Roy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psm8pUx1qaE
Aaj Mero Ghar / Dhoop Chhaon 1935….K C Dey….[ Probably first film to use playback songs]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFPEzh4RSQ0
….to be contd.
Hans ji;
Eating in canteens was better than eating in modern days restaurants . Menu cards were simple and easy to understand ; whereas now you need to carry a dictionary to understand what is on offer ….. Ultimately the eyes gets focused on what is the cheapest dish on offer.
Continuity of thoughts is our greatest strength and breakthroughs adds to pleasure…..
Asha Bhosle (non film)- Ambuwa Ki Daari Bole Kaari Koyaliya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hEbDiTqjqM
Tera Jahan Aabad Hai | Elaan || Surendra Nath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bVflIyQzdk
laga chunri mein daag chhupaun kaise ..manna dey…Dil Hi To Hai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD5Pe4k3myI
….to be contd.
Two songs …
(1) From .. ‘ Fareb’ ,1952
Aa Mohabbat ki basti basayenge hum …
MD … Anil Biswas
Singers… Kishore Kumar , Lata
https://youtu.be/CUyS80OAhc8
(2) From ‘Jalte Deep ‘ 1950
Nayi ik duniya Basayenge hum tum …
MD… Sardul Kwatra
Singers…GM Durrani,Geeta Roy
https://youtu.be/iiG_hkxzUr0
One song from… ‘ Daag ‘ 1952
‘ Aye mere Dil Kaheen aur chal…’
MD… Shankar Jaikizshan
Singer… Talat , Lata
https://youtu.be/_aFqiq7yHI8
One song from… ‘ Amar deep ‘ , 1958
‘Dekh Hamein Aawaz na Dena…’
MD … C Ramchandra
Singers … Rafi , Asha
https://youtu.be/mbVS5oozMzE
HUM PANCHI EK DAAL KE, 1957.
Jis Ghar ke logon ko subah jhagadte dekha hai
Sham hui ke Ghar wohi ujhadte dekha hai…
KHANDAN, 1965.
Mujhe jab jab baharon ka zamana yaad aayega
Kahin apne bhi tha ek Ashiyana yaad aayega…
AN EVENING IN PARIS, 1967.
Raat ke Humsafar thak ke Ghar ko chale..
Some from my student days:
CHACHA BHATIJA
Tere sheeshe ka saamaan maine thoda meri Jaan, toh kya hua?
…tere liye Sheesh Mahal banaoonga..
SUHAAG
Main toh beghar hoon
Mujhko Ghar le chalo
Ghar mein hai mushkil
Toh daftar le chalo…
( Shashi Kapoor has some dialogues with Asha Bhonsle here… The girl is taken neither to home nor office,but to her hostel!)
SANAM TERI KASAM
Sheeshe ke Gharon mein dekho toh
Pathar dilwale rehte hain..
( One more instance of undeserving Filmfare award for best music!)
The DOORIYAN song I posted earlier talks of an open house..
Mere Ghar ka seeda sa itna patha hai
Ye Ghar jo hai charon taraf se khula hai
Na dasthak zaroori na awaaz dena
Mere Ghar ka darwaza koi nahi hai
Hain deeware gum aur chath bhi nahi hai…
In SARGAM earlier..
Koyal boli Duniya doli
Samjho dil ki boli..
….
…
Oopar Ambar Neeche Zameen hai
Itna bada Ghar koi nahi hai..
PYAR JHUKTA NAHIN
Tumhe apna saathi banane se pehle
Meri Jaan mujhko bahut sochna hai
…
..
Kahan se main laaoon woh resham ki saadi
Woh Bangla woh motor nahin de sakooonga..
For me, personally, the best song of Nitin Mukesh is the one from TEZAB, 1988 with Alka Yagnik and Shabbir Kumar.
So gaya ye jahan
So gaya aasmaan
..
…
Raat aayee toh woh jinke Ghar the
Woh Ghar ko gaye, so gaye
Raat aayee toh hum jaise Awara
Phir nikle rahon mein aur kho gaye..
Same sentiments as the MASHAAL and SADAK songs posted earlier: Rehne ko Ghar nahin, sone ko bisthar nahin and Footpathon ke hum rehnewale, respectively.
Hansji @ 170
I would not hate a writer just because he had written sever words or criticized a person in the extreme language.
If we use your criteria then the criticism will not be a good criticism nor the writer would be a good writer.
But so often Baburao Patel had alternative motives behind his harshness or targeted comic words.
He criticized Shantaram heavily so the poor fellow found it difficult to face the English journals in India.
So Shantaram had to give him some money on a suitable occasion to cool him down.
Then Baburao started praising Shantarm’s film “Stree” made from the Kalidasa’s Shakuntalam.
Which many other journalists thought it was a very poor version of the Kalidas play.
But the Music of C.Ramchandra was excellent.
Sometimes his criticism was apt.
The actress “Nimmi” once boasted that her lips have never been kissed by her heroes or others off the screen or on the scree.
In the next issue of FilmIndia Baburao published his own photo kissing Nimmi and titled it “Baburao is tasting the un-kissed lips of Nimmi.
But in social and political world harsh criticism is very much needed as many figures lived double kind of life.
I was very shocked from the roots when in the eighties “India Toady” published a photograph of Jawaharlal Nehru sitting in his lounge with grown up Indira Gandhi in his lap.
Much later BBC published a documentary on Indira Gandhi in which the writer of the documentary claimed Indira used sex to become President of the Congress Party just one step near to become the Prime Minister of India.
But I think she proved her ability to become a Prime Minister of of a huge country with so many differences. her skills and courage in creating Bangala Desh and other battles were very daring. And her eventual death too was a warrior’s Death.
So criticism with just cause is very necessary and Shanta Apte’s courage and action is also very praiseworthy.
Shalan Lal
Some more from Gulzar lyrics:
KHOOBSURAT
1. Sun sun sun Didi tere liye ek rishta..
…
Achche Ghar ka ladka hai
Par hak haklata hai..
2. Saare niyam thod do
Niyam pe chalna chod do
…
Bhade se oonche Building hain
Building se ooncha bhada hai..
ANGOOR
Preetham aan milo
..
Raat akele darr lagta hai
Jungle jaisa Ghar lagta hai..
BASERA
Aoongi ek din, aa jaaoon?
…
Hum bhi toh aap ke Ghar hi ke hain
Paraye nahin..
SITARA
Thodi si zameen Thoda aasmaan
Tinkon ka bas ek Aashiyan
…
Mere Ghar ke aangan mein
Chota sa jhoola ho..
NARAM GARAM
1. Hame raaston ki zaroorat nahin
Hame teri paaon ki nishani mil gayi hai
…
Jahan tera saaya wahan apna Ghar hai..
2. Ek baat suni hai Chacha ji, batlanewali hai
Ghar mein ek anokhi cheez aanewali hai
( Sushma Shrestha with Shatrughan Sinha!)
A K L Saigal Non Film Song
Ghar ye tera sada na mera hai..
https:// youtu.be/ 76YE9N2_6YY
Shalanji
I dont think I set any criteria about the criticism or said anything to this effect. I just told about my reaction to Shanta Apte’s action, based on what I knew about Patel. You yourself have stated that he had ulterior motives of blackmailing people by his reporting. And what he did in the case of Nimmi paints him as a rogue. I take this Nimmi thing just as gossip, because no actress in those days said such things.
I think in this post some sort of soul of Patel has entered you. You are mentioning gossip after gossip. What was the harm in a daughter sitting in father’s lap or when a daughter starts to grow up for her father. My father used to call Indira the only ‘Mard’ PM in India and I agree with him. I have seen her from close, as I was posted in PMO from Dec. 1981 to March 1984. She was an able lady. Some people said she was less educated or such sort of things. But, I once I saw her amendment of a draft put up by none other than HY Sharada Prasad. She used to make corrections with red ink. She cut out some words and added a few, which changed the whole complexion of the letter. She was really great and bold. Besides Bangladesh, she included Sikkim in India and made bold decisions in eradicating terrorism from Panjab which led to her death.