Best songs of 1950: Wrap Up 4

November 11, 2015

Songs of Yore Award for the Best Duet goes to? (Wishing Happy Diwali to everyone)

1950 filmsHans recently commented in some other context that duets generally create less impact than solos. This is certainly true of tennis where the doubles players are not counted in the same league as Federers and Djokovics. In the olden days before the open era, it was quite common for the top ranking players (think of John Newcombe and Tony Roche) to be at the top both in singles and doubles. I have mentioned earlier that often the contrasting voices make duets extremely charming. Duets also provide more opportunity to the music director for innovation.

As another aside, there have been some comments as to who decides how many songs were to be male solos or female solos or duets. Some readers have observed that the music director has no role in this and it is the producer or director who takes a call based on the script. In most of our formula films, the script is hardly sacrosanct. Once the star cast was decided, everyone must have bumbled along, and the music director too was a part of the team to fill up the three hours of the film. Regardless of who decided the break-down of solos and duets, some years have incredibly beautiful duets, outshining both the male solos and female solos. We will see how the duets fare in 1950, but it is noteworthy that selection of duets has not been as contentious as that of the solos, especially female solos.

I mentioned in my earlier Wrap Up the massive micro-analysis done by Ashok M Vaishnav on his blog of the best songs of 1950. He has covered duets of Mukesh, Rafi, Talat Mahmood, GM Durrani, Chitalkar & other singers in separate posts. He has also done separate posts on male-male, female-female duets and triad songs. Naturally he has included many songs which do not figure in the Select List. Many readers have added a number of songs on SoY outside my Select List. One I found especially charming from Ashokji’s list was GM Durrani-Pramodini Desai duet from Dilruba, composed by Gyan Dutt, which should make a worthy addition to the Select List.

I continue with the fourth Wrap Up which is about the best duets of 1950 in continuation of the Overview post, Wrap Up 1 (best male solos), Wrap Up 2 (best ‘other’ female solso) and Wrap Up 3 (best songs of Lata Mangeshkar).

First cut

As I go down my Select List I pick the following songs as the First Cut. I am including male-male, female-female duets as well as triads and songs with more distinct singers in the duets category.

1.  Humse nain milana BA pass kar ke – Mukesh-Shamshad Begum, Aankhen
2.  Shikwa tera main gaaun – Talat Mahmood-Lata Mangeshkar, Anmol Ratan
3.  Yaad aanewale phir yad aa rahe hain – Talat Mahmood-Lata Mangeshkar, Anmol Ratan
4.  Duniya badal gayi meri duniya badal gayi – Talat Mahmood-Shamshad Begum, Babul
5.  Milate hi aankhen dil hua deewana kisi ka – Talat Mahmood-Shamshad Begum, Babul
6.  Khayalon mein kisi ke is tarah aya nahi karte – Mukesh-Geeta Dutt, Bawre Nain
7.  Mujhe sach sach bata – Mukesh-Rajkumari, Bawre Nain
8.  Chhota sa fasana hai tere mere pyar ka – Rafi-Lata Mangeshkar, Birha Ki Raat
9.  Tara ri tara ri – Rafi-Suraiya, Daastan
10. Dil ko haye dil ko – Rafi-Suraiya, Daastan
11. Chirainya udi jaaye re – GM Durrani-Pramodini Desai, Dilruba
12. Arman bhare dil ki lagan – Talat Mahmood-Geeta Dutt, Jaan Pehchan,
13. Zamane ka dastoor hai ye purana – Mukesh-Lata Mangeshkar, Lajwab
14. Mahi O dupatta mora de de – Rafi-Lata Mangeshkar, Meena Baazar
15. Ankhiyan mila ke zara baat karo ji – Rafi-Shamshad Begum, Pardes
16. Kah do humein na beqaraar karein – Rafi-Surendra Kaur, Sabak
17. Gore gore O banke chore – Lata Mangeshkar-Amirbai Karnataki, Samadhi
18. Jab dil ko sataye gham – Lata Mangeshkar-Saraswati Rane, Sargam
19. Wo humse chup hain hum unse chup hain – Chitalkar-Lata Mangeshkar, Sargam
20. Manwa mein pyar dole – Mukesh-Zohrabai Ambalewali, Sartaj
21. Armaan bhara dil toot gaya – Mukesh-Lata Mangeshkar, Wafa

This is an awesome list, and it is difficult to say that the duets are lesser than the solos. I have to still prune it down to half. I scan down once more and keep the ones I can’t do without. This is what I get – 1. Shikwa tera main gaaun, 2. Yaad aanewale phir yaad aa rahe hain, 3. Duniya badal gayi, 4. Khayalon mein kisi ke, 5. Zamaane ka dastoor hai ye purana, 6. Mahi O dupatta mora de de, 7. Kah do humein na beqaraar kare, 8. Gore Gore O Baanke chore, 9. Wo humse chup hain hum unse chup hain, 10. Manwa mein pyar dole and 11. Armaan bhara dil toot gaya.

After some ruthless action I came down to eleven. This has four of Talat Mahmood, three of Mukesh, two of Rafi, one of CR-Lata Mangeshkar and one female-female duet. There is no easy way of removing another one. I can take shelter under the new meaning of “SoY’s Ten”, which can be anything from 10 to 13, depending on the context. But I have to maintain balance between the different categories. Therefore, with a heavy heart I dispense with Wo humse chup hain hum unse chup hain.

The order would depend a great deal on individual preferences. But Talat Mahmood seems to be overwhelming favourite. Before I put the ten best duets in order, I would like to invite the readers to revisit the “Special Songs” in the Overview post, which included the following duets: 1 Jab nain se nain mile (Veer Babhruvaahan; Amirbai Karnataki, Geeta Dutt and Rafi; Chitragupta), 2. Panghat pe na jaiyo gori ghunghat utaar ke (Raj Mukut; Lata Mangeshkar and Geeta Dutt; Govind Ram), 3. Hum dil ki dadhakan ki laya par furqat ke gaane gaate hain (Khamosh Sipahi; Rafi and Surinder Kaur; Hansraj Bahal), 4. Taqdeer hansee aansoo nikale (Pagle; Talat Mahmood and Rajkumari; Snehal Bhatkar). Let me add another special duet courtesy Ashokji, which deserves to be mentioned again and again, because it is only through this exercise we get to hear these gems.

Special duet

Chirainya udi jaye re by GM Durani and Pramodini Desai from Dilruba, lyrics (?), music Gyan Dutt

This outstanding song is a visual treat too.   There is a chorus-backed group dance, which is so infectious that in an adjacent salon Cuckoo’s hands  involuntarily start moving in dance gestures.  She sings and dances to the accompanist on the tabla (Balam?), who reciprocates in GM Durrani’s voice.  Shortly thereafter, the tabalchi rises and starts dancing with her.  Was he also Cuckoo’s lover?  Yaqub, who is watching the group-dance approvingly, is distracted by this another dance-song coming from nearby.

Best ten duets

1. Yaad aanewale phir yaad aa rahe hain by Talat Mahmood and Lata Mangeshkar from Anmol Ratan, lyrics DN Madhok, music Vinod

This song has figured prominently in the article on Vinod in the series on Forgotten composers, and later in LDDS (Long Distance Duets of Separation).  It is ironical that Vinod has to now count among forgotten composers.  Yaad aanewale is a clear favourite for the best duet of the year.

2. Shikwa tera main gaaun by Talat Mahmood andLata Mangeshakr from Anmol Ratan, lyrics DN Madhok, music Vinod

With such exceptional music, I had no hesitation to include this duet from the same film at no. 2.

3. Duniya badal gayi meri duniya badal gayi by Talat Mahmood and Shamshad Begum from Babul, lyrics Shakeel Badayyuni, music Naushad

Another LDDS, and Talat Mahmood as the male voice.  Naushad has to settle to third place after two songs by Vinod.  Some readers have put it at the top, which I really don’t mind.  But hats off to Vinod.

4. Khayalon mein kisi ke is tarah aya nahi karte by Mukesh and Geeta Roy (Dutt), lyrics Kidar Sharma, music Roshan

From LDDS to a romantic duet, but somewhat different from the norm.  The lady’s love seems to be one-sided, with Raj Kapoor responding Dilon ko raund kar dil apna bahalaya nahi karte.

5. Manwa mein pyar dole by Mukesh and Zohrabai Ambalewali from Sartaj, lyrics Majrooh Sultanpuri, music Husnlal-Bhagatram

Mukesh and Zohrabai are a very unlikely combination. In this song they sing in their own scales, but the effect is very charming. Mukesh had superb duets with all great vintage singers.  Here is one of the best.

6. O Mahi O dupatta mora de de by Rafi and Lata Mangeshkar from Meena Baazar, lyrics Qamar Jalalabadi, music Husnlal-Bhagatram

A leading doyen of Punjabi school of music, Husnlal-Bhagatram had one of the best years in 1950.

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7. Kah do humein na beqaraar kare by Rafi and Surinder Kaur from Sabak, lyrics DN Madhok, music AR Qureshi

Surinder Kaur was a legend for her Punjabi film and folk songs. She had a short stint in Hindi film songs, but she left an indelible imprint.  She is in her elements in this song, with Rafi duly following her.  AR Qureshi is more well known as one of the greatest tabla exponents, Allah Rakkha. His son Zakir Hussain is a legend in his own right.

8. Zamane ka dastoor hai ye purana by Mukesh and Lata Mangeshkar from Lajawab, lyrics Prem Dhawan, music Anil Biswas

Anil Biswas is the composer who made Mukesh Mukesh.  We have met this song earlier in the series on the maestro.  Anil Biswas always drew out something special from her two favourites Mukesh and Lata Mangeshkar.

9. Armaan bhara dil too gaya by Mukesh and Lata Mangeshkar from Wafa, lyrics Hasrat Jaipuri, music Bulo C Rani

Wafa has two music directors Vinod and Bulo C Rani.  HFGK credits to the latter.  The two stand shoulder to shoulder with the giants like Naushad and C Ramchandra in 1950.  Mukesh and Lata together tuning is out of this world.

10. Gore gore O baanke chore by Lata Mangeshkar and Amirbai Karnataki from Samadhi, lyrics Rajendra Krishna, music C Ramchandra

CR could compose extremely soulful and poignant to fast, peppy songs.  This dance song on westernised tune intended to entertain the soldiers of INA in the film has acquired an iconic status.

To sum up,

The SoY Award for the best duet of the year goes to Yaad aanewale phir yaad aa rahe hain by Talat Mahmood and Lata Mangeshkar.

{ 38 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Ravindra Kelkar November 11, 2015 at 12:31 pm

AKji,
Overall a fairly good representation. So congrats & Happy Diwali.

2 Jignesh Kotadia November 11, 2015 at 12:37 pm

Great collection of Duets from 1950 giving a due credit to master Vinod. He may be a forgotten composer for majority music fans but not for us. 1950 has certainly a huge mass of Duets and multiplets almost each film contains a duet or more showing too many pairs of different singers. Thanx for this Diwali gift of alltime supreme songs.

3 Jignesh Kotadia November 11, 2015 at 12:41 pm

Akji
Dilruba has another wonderful duet sung by Geeta and GMD

Humne khayi hai muhabbat me jawaani ki kasam
Humne khayi hai
Na kabhi honge juda hum
Na kabhi honge juda hum

4 Subodh Agrawal November 11, 2015 at 1:02 pm

No quarrel with the final list. My own would have at least half of these songs. ‘Khayalon mein kisi ke’ used to be in my all time favourite list until ‘Mujhe sach sach bata do’ replaced it. Both will find place in my top 10 of this year. I would also include ‘Milte hi ankhein dil hua.’

5 mumbaikar8 November 11, 2015 at 5:03 pm

AK,
I would have picked any of Mukesh’s song.
I think he has great duets with Lata Geeta Rajkumari.

Wishing everyone Happy Diwali with this song from Anjali.
MD Jaidev with Asha and one of the finest chorus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btUuUKzzmz8

6 Anu Warrier November 11, 2015 at 9:24 pm

Happy Diwali, AK. 🙂

7 arvindersharma November 11, 2015 at 11:51 pm

My heartiest Dipawali Greetings to all the SoY participants, and. AK Ji as well.
It’s really a very tough job you undertake AK Ji, and I must say that such a task of elimination of some favorite songs for coming to a final list of ten, is a pretty tough decision making process.
There are three songs which I feel should have found a place in the top ten, but I would excuse myself from editing any from your list.
They are
1 Mujhe sach sach batao kya, by Rajkumari and Mukesh (‘Kya’ by Rajkumari is just amazingly beautiful).
2 Tarari Tarari by Suraiyya and Rafi, and
3 Ankhiyan mila ke Zara baat karo Ji by Rafi Lata
A commendable effort, once again I must say.

8 AK November 12, 2015 at 12:47 am

Subodh,
No quarrels with your additions too, but hopefully not at the cost of one of the Talat duets.

9 AK November 12, 2015 at 12:48 am

Mumbaiker8,
No one would quarrel if you take a Mukesh duet instead. Thanks a lot for your Diwali greetings and the song.

10 AK November 12, 2015 at 12:53 am

Arvinder Sharmaji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation and for Diwali greetings. I would happily include 1 and 3, if I had room.

11 ksbhatia November 12, 2015 at 1:58 pm

Arvindersharma’ji @7 ;
Yes , Kyaa of ….mujhe sach sach bata do kyaaa…….is as beautiful as …..Eib. of….Sun bairi balam sach bol re eib kya hoga . Same singer same movie…..Rajkumari…Bawre nain . ….with Roshan as MD .

12 ksbhatia November 12, 2015 at 3:30 pm

AK’ji ;
Thanks for this collection of sparkling Diwali gift of songs . The cross section of songs truly represent the transition period of style of music and its progression from vintage to golden era in both sad and comic versions . Dilruba’s song chiriyaan hudi jayen re and samadhi’s Gore gore o banke are really a treat to watch . Impact of modernisation as a way of life can easily observed while watching such songs/ movies . Yakub , Gope and Bhagwan had a good number of such comic songs performed wearing their modern outfits . Of course , for enhancing the qualities of sad songs , Dilip sahib acting abilities were unquestionable.

AKji there is little room to add to your’s Ten+ Three songs , and of the tree songs mine are:
1. Tarari tarari …..Dastan
2. Nadi kinare…..Babul
3. Kisi ke dil mein rahena tha .

13 AK November 12, 2015 at 4:08 pm

KS Bhatiaji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. The songs you have added are really good. To fit all the great duets our ten has to be twenty.

14 KB November 12, 2015 at 7:01 pm

Sad that no song from KHEL has made its way into this especially the solo from Lata.

15 AK November 12, 2015 at 8:08 pm

KS Bhatiaji,
The Wrap Up 4 was about duets. Lata solo Bhool ja ae dil mohabbat ka fasana has figured in the Wrap Up 3.

16 SSW November 12, 2015 at 8:40 pm

Alas you have no room for Sajjad here. Maghroor 1950. Not a duet I grant but a trio, combining three vastly different voices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzG3oeDNnjc

Till Salil Chowdhury came along you would be hard put to find in HFM somebody who could really compare with Sajjad’s orchestration and melodic complexity. Listen to how the orchestration moves after “rangeen ghatayee chaayi thi”.. and in the antara when Rajkumari sings “voh saaz-e-mohabbat toot gayaa” see how the “gayaa” is taken. It isn’t repeated again in the song. Of course this is a personal opinion so you can consign it to the dustbin. 🙂

And this duet.

17 SSW November 12, 2015 at 8:44 pm

I found a video of the song. So since Meena Kumari was in it I could not resist posting …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaCRa-zLTlU

18 AK November 12, 2015 at 10:15 pm

SSW,
Thanks for mentioning this song again. Outstanding melody. Whatever you say about Sajjad Husain is true. I have remained within the “popular and outstanding”. But songs like Toot gaya dil too gaya need to be mentioned again and again.

19 Jignesh Kotadia November 13, 2015 at 1:38 am

#14
KBji is complaining there is no Lata solo in this post.

#15
Akji is replying to ksbhatiaji for this matter.

Aisa kijiye
Aap dono thoda aaram kar lijiye
Naye saal men 🙂 🙂

20 ksbhatia November 13, 2015 at 8:28 pm

Jignesh kotadia ji ;
Every thing is fair during Diwali ! Zamana yeh samjha ke woh pe ke aye ! I think every one will be on their feet after diwali hangover .

21 mumbaikar8 November 13, 2015 at 11:46 pm

ksbhatiaji,
AK is a teetotaler, that escape route is blocked:)

AK,
#18. I would like to see the popularity chart that determined song #1

22 Jignesh Kotadia November 14, 2015 at 12:24 am

ksbhatiaji welcome
Well it was a fun.
#11 kya.. of Rajkumari is really so sweet.
Again at “muskuraye the” and “ghabraa rahe the tum” also mind blowing.. And Mukesh at “wo zaalim jiske mithe bol lagte hai bade pyare” terrific ! In fact the whole song is a heavenly experience made by two sweetest voices of Hfmh. A perfect melody.

23 AK November 14, 2015 at 9:37 am

Mumbaikar8,
The protocol is that you don’t demand proof. You can differ and give your ranking. If you regard another Talat Mahmood duet or a Mukesh duet as #1, that is fine, because the top 5-6 songs are very close.

24 Siddharth November 14, 2015 at 1:06 pm

AKji,
Your song #1 is really a treat.
The list is fantastic, but I do have soft corner for the song “Mujhe sach sach bata do”. Everything about that song is great, especially the start and end of the song.

25 AK November 14, 2015 at 5:44 pm

Siddharth,
Thanks for your appreciation.
Other readers have also mentioned Mujhe sach sach bata. What was perhaps weighing on my mind was that Mukesh already had four duets, and I had taken one from Bawre Nain – the more conventional Khayalon mein kisi ke. I am also very fond of Mujhe sach sach bata. Either we take this in place of Khayalon mein, or in place of a Rafi duet or Zamaane ka dastoor hai ye purana.

26 N Venkataraman November 14, 2015 at 6:19 pm

AKji,
At the outset let me congratulate you on accomplishing a tough job. From a personal point of view I am quite happy to find six of my selections in your list of best ten. However I would like to share some of my observations.

In selection of the best ten (in any category) was based, I believe, on the popular choice/selection of the participants, including your choice/selection. I also acknowledge your right to exercise your preference to an extent. All the participants do not express their preference, and even among those few who do, some prefer to give only the best in each category. At the most, half a dozen members state their choice of best 10 songs or more in each category. Arriving at the final ten, based on the discussions and choice (partial /selective list/ list of ten or more) of the participants, is not an easy task. I understand the need to exercise your discretion, at times, to include or exclude certain songs. Fair enough.

In the Wrap-up 1 (Male Solo), the selection of best ten tallied with the top ten popular choice expressed by the participants. Even the ranking of the top four and two more songs matched the popular votes.

The selection of best ten in the Wrap-up 2 (female solos-others) was in line with the popular choice, except for one song. In fact it was a surprise that the song was not in any of our lists (including my list). I think its inclusion in the final ten was justified, the song being Chhod babul ka ghar. As per the popular choice the top three songs were Man mor hua matwala followed by Ghungat ke pat khol and Ambua ki daari pe bole re koyaliya whereas your choice for the first three slots were Jogi mat jaa, Man mor hua matwala and Nain deewan ik nahin mane. I have reasons to be pleased since my choice for the first two slots are the same as yours but in the reverse order. On the whole a balanced selection.

When it comes to Lata Mangeshkar we have large number of good songs to choose from. Besides, most of the participants prefer to give a combined list for the female solos, thus restricting her number of songs to 3-4 at the most. So it is explicable that out of best 10 songs of Lata Mangeshkar (based on popular votes) only six were included in your list of best 10. The final list had four songs which were your choice, the songs being Unhe hum jo dil se bhulane lage, Dil hi to hai tadap gaya, Aisi mohabbat se hum baaj aaye and Hans hans ke mere chain par bijli giraye. But the only surprise is the exclusion of the song Kahan tak hum uthaye gam which garnered the maximum popular votes along with Koi kisi ka diwana bane. But Hans ji has provided a way out. Since we cannot conclusively prove that Rasiya belongs to 1950, he suggests excluding the song Hans hans ke mere chain par bijli giraye from the list of bests. Going by your suggestion that we can take one of Anil Biswas’s or C Ramchandra’s songs, I assume the song Kahan tak hum uthaye gam replaces the Rasiya song.

Coming to the Wrap-up 4 (duets), you have sprung a surprise by overriding the popular choice, by selecting only three out of the popular top six choices. The no.1 song by way of popular votes was Milte Hi aankhen dil hua diwana kisi ka (Babul); the other two songs were Mujhe sach sach bata (Bawre Nain) and Dil ko hae dil ko (Daastan). Naushad being the MD for two of the songs, their exclusion is all the more surprising. Subodh ji says (comment #4) he would have included the songs Milte Hi aankhen dil hua diwana kisi ka and Mujhe sach sach bata. Arvinder ji also expresses (comment #7) a similar fondness for the later song.

Again you prefer to include only three of the next seven popular choices. The four popular songs that did not find a place in your final ten were Chhota sa fasana hai, Woh hum se chup hai, Jab dil ko satae gam and Arman bhare dil ki lagan tere liy hai.

The songs that found a place in your list, Manwa me pyar dole and Shikavaa teraa main gaaun were not included by any of the participants other than me. Duniya badal gayi meri duniya badal gayi and Kah do humein na beqaraar karein were not considered for inclusion by any of the participants.

I agree that there can be no right choice(s) or wrong choice(s). As I have said earlier, you have the final say in exercising your discretion at time and to an extent. We appreciate your predicament. Please do not consider my utterings as petulant rants. They are simply my observation.

Had the other participants too had conveyed their preference in the overview post, the popular votes for the songs, they have mentioned later, might have gone up. That would have made Akji’s task less difficult

Thank you once again.

PS: Zamaane ka dastoor hai yeh purana was the most popular song after Milte hi aankhen dil hua diwana kisi ka. Mujhe sach sach bata , I think, was third in the ranking. Had Subodh ji, Arvinderji and others expressed their view in the overview post, this song would have got the maximum number of popular votes.

27 AK November 14, 2015 at 8:46 pm

Venkataramanji,
Thanks a lot for your detailed comments. From your analysis my list may be a bit off, but as I look back and see your and other readers’ comments, I don’t have much regrets, except for Mujhe sach sach bata. My reply to Siddharth explains my position to this. Between Duniya badal gayi and Milate hi aankhen dil hua I went for the former as I found its tune more complex and appealing. Even though it may be ‘my’ choice, probably you would not have much quarrel with me. It is the songs in the top half that are important. Talat’s duets from Anmol Ratan are really outstanding. Some lists may have more of my bias, but we have problem of plenty – so many songs which are as good as any.

28 Jignesh Kotadia November 15, 2015 at 11:27 am

Akji, Siddharthji
The most pleasing and amazing thing is the songs like “Yaad aanewale”, “Shikwa tera main gaaun”, “Mujhe sach sach bata do” who were in the state of being behind from the popular ones for decades Are now front runners of the race…after 65 years !!

29 Siddharth November 15, 2015 at 5:23 pm

AKji,
It is tough to select the best ten and please everyone simultaneously.
If you could add a poll feature, we may get the most popular song(s).

Jigneshji,
Yes, reviewing after 65 years provides a level playing field, other factors like popularity, reach, movie,actors etc. are out of the equation.

30 Ashok M Vaishnav November 15, 2015 at 9:46 pm

1950 is the year when duets certainly have been at par with solos, both in terms of popularity as well as the longevity of the songs.

Female-female duets also need a fairly equitable space in any selection.

On the whole, Wrap up (4) is a very difficult job done with a fair amount of balance.

31 AK November 16, 2015 at 12:17 am

Ashokji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation.

32 Hans November 16, 2015 at 1:43 am

AK,

Let me first clarify that whatever I said about the impact of solos and duets was based on observations made on the developments in hfm and was a general comment. It does not mean that every solo has more impact than every duet. In every year and era the solos have been twice or more than twice the number of duets. There have been hundreds of highly successful films with wholly solo songs or with one or two duets. But, there have been very few films where wholly duets or with just one or two solo songs. The two MDs who are considered duet specialists – CR and OPN – have also more solos than duets.

Regarding the ranking of the duets, Mumbaikar8 has been direct while Venkatramanji has been subtle in questioning it. I am blunt in my comments. So kindly excuse me in advance. You talked about protocol when Mumbaikar8 asked something. Protocol is invoked to hide something or to claim preference. When you ask people participation, you should respect their views also. In 1955 awards there was a lot of participation and people gave their lists as per the format. But, you gave your own lists. After that proper participation is missing or getting reduced. This year is no different. The two Talat-Shamshad duets from Babul and the Mukesh-Geeta and Mukesh-Rajkumari duets from Bawre Nain are without doubt the top duets. You have dropped one each from them though Naushad and Roshan are your favourites and included both from Anmol Rattan, just because Lata is in them. I would not accuse you of bias, because your senses are so tuned to Lata that everything concerning her looks bigger.

I know my comments are harsh and I could have done without them. But, you must by now know that I love this site and would like it to be more objective. I hope readers and you would excuse me because my intention is positive.

33 Hans November 16, 2015 at 1:53 am

Jignesh (comment 28)
Do you really believe that the songs were in front for 65 years for popularity alone and they were lesser in quality than those you consider now as superior. My experience is that such late discovered toppers are soon forgotten. 65 years is a long time and the songs which were tops after 65 years would always remain so.

34 AK November 16, 2015 at 7:41 am

Hans,
Don’t worry. I understand and appreciate your comments.
AK

35 Jignesh Kotadia November 16, 2015 at 1:20 pm

Hansji
We have discussed earlier in depth about

Quality + Popularity ==> Survival
Quality + No Popularity ==> Oblivion
Quality Popular Songs + YT ==> Survival continues..
Quality Obscure Songs + YT ==> Revival
of obscure songs enabled them to compete strongly with the popular ones.

I never said that the songs from 40’s, 50’s who led the popularity charts until now had No quality.
They were lucky to have immense popularity besides their quality.

(And Many songs from 70’s and 80’s have immense popularity until now. Do you believe they have superior quality than the 50’s songs ?!)

The songs Khayalo me kisi ke and Mujhe sach sach bata do have no quality difference but you can see Khayalo me has been leader for decades..why ??

And I can say that The Late Discovered Toppers Now will not be forgotten soon
Bcz now they have strong reviving media.
They are Now Not in mouth to mouth publicity era, radio or tv era, or Not in the era in which a cassette parlor had only selected popular movie songs,, which conveys mostly the popular songs to people.

Hansji
This discussion has no end. Reality is that the songs Yaad Aanewale, Shikwa tera main gaaun And Mujhe sach sach bata do are leading the SoY charts today over their pop-quality competitors..and this is not Admin’s personal choices..many are agree with him including me..

36 D P Rangan November 17, 2015 at 8:50 pm

@5

The song bears a great similarity with another piece sung by Asha Bhonsle – Aayi pari rangpari – Do Phool (Hasrat Jaipuri Vasant Desai combination)

https://youtu.be/LrF9KHKq6xg

37 Dinesh K Jain November 20, 2015 at 5:36 pm

It is good to discover popular and quality songs of the year full 2 years before one first opened the eyes in this world!

38 AK November 20, 2015 at 9:28 pm

Dinesh,
That is the essence of great songs. They would live long after we are gone.

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