Aaiye/Chale aaiye and Jaaiye/Chale jaaiye in songs: Are they the same or is there a difference?

I have been forced into temporary inactivity. During such periods I can do nothing but contemplate on some issues. I find thinking about Iran-US-Israel War, the Middle East crisis quite mind boggling, so I reflect on simple things like the Hindi film songs. Of late, my mind has been reflecting on the pairs, Aaiye & Chale aaiye; Jaaiye & Chale jaaiye. Is there a difference or are they the same? It seems there is indeed a difference in the connotation of Aaiye and Chale aaiye and Jaaiye and Chale jaiye. It appears to me that the addition of the adverb adds an extra degree of pleading. Look at these pairs:

1A. Aaiye meherban by Asha Bhosle from Howrah Bridge (1958), lyrics of Qamar Jalalabadi, music OP Nayyar

Asha Bhosle by her voice, and Madhubala by her emoting do seem to be sincerely inviting the patrons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go4ixEgnecg&list=RDgo4ixEgnecg&start_radio=1

1B. Dil ki mehfil saji hai chale aaiye by Rafi from Saaz Aur Aawaz (1966), lyrics Khumar Barabanqvi, music Naushad

But to my mind, the effort stands nowhere in comparison to this Rafi gem. It could be my weakness for Naushad, but the addition of Chale makes the song extra melodious.

2A. Aana hai to aa raah mein kuchh pher nahin hai, Bhagwan ke ghar der hai andher nahin hai by Rafi from Naya Daur (1957), lyrics Sahir Luhiyanavi, music OP Nayyar

Rafi sings a very serious bhajan, but look at the impact of the plain word, Aana hai to aa, as if you do not care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2_mUvDpk-Y&list=RDe2_mUvDpk-Y&start_radio=1

2B. Akele hain chale aao jahan ho, kahan aawaz dein tum ko jahan ho by Rafi from Raaz (1967), lyrics Shamim Jaipuri, music Kalyanji-Anandji

Rafi again, now singing for Rajesh Khanna in one of his earliest films, when he had not yet become the Phenomenon. But now the lyricist has added the words, Chale aao and see its impact.

Jaaiye/ Chale jaaiye

The same phenomenon happens with the other pair, Jaaiye/Chale jaaiye.

3A. Jana hai to jaao manayenge nahin, nakhre kisi ke uthayenge nahin; aana hai to aao by Mahendra Kapoor  & Asha Bhosle from Bandhan (1969). lyrics Indivar, music Kalyanji-Anandji

Rajesh Khanna had had enough of Mumtaz’s tantrums; now he is not concerned whether she leaves him; he is not going to mollify her.

3B. Chale jana zara thehro kisi ka dam nikalta hai by Mukesh and Sharda from Around the World (1967), lyrics Hasrat Jaipuri, music Shankar-Jaikishan

Add ‘Chale’ to ‘Jana’ and there is an automatic pleading in the voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM13G1YFdnA&list=RDUM13G1YFdnA&start_radio=1

4A. Jana tha humse door bahaane bana liye by Lata Mangeshkar from Adalat (1958), lyrics Rajendra Krishna, music Madan Mohan

This is a beautiful composition, sung equally poignantly by Lata Mangeshkar. But in the plain “Jana tha humse door”, there is a resigned acceptance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvwC9c81esY&list=RDpvwC9c81esY&start_radio=1

4B. Chale jana nahin nain mila ke sainya bedardi by Lata Mangeshkar from Badi Bahan (1949), lyrics Rajendra Krishna, music Husnlal-Bhagatram

Lata Mangeshkar again. She sings a great song. But now there is Chale jana (nahin), the lyricist, too, is the same.  There is an impish Geeta Bali pleading to the man: Don’t go away after falling in love with me. I can see Pran on the screen, his expression seems to be that he is up to his familiar tricks of seducing a girl for ulterior purposes.

Aaiye-Jaaiye in the same song

We just saw jana hai to jaao-aana hai to aao in the same song #3. I have come across at least a couple of more songs which has both aana and jaana in the same song, in a more conspicuous manner. Both are my great favourites: one from the 50s, when SJ were the tops. The other from the 60s, composed by SJ-successor Laxmikant-Pyarelal.

5. Aate jaate pehlu mein aaya koi, mere dil batla na chhupa, aaj se tujhe dil kahun ya dilruba by Lata Mangeshkar from Yahudi (1958), lyrics Shailendra, music Shankar-Jaikishan

The bonus of this song is a happy Meena Kumari, dancing with gay abandon. SJ have composed some beautiful dance songs in the voice of Lata Mangeshkar. I like the eye-candy, chirpy Meena Kumari, dancing and laughing with joy. I find it sad that she transformed herself into a weepy, suffering sati savitri.

6. Aane se uske aaye bahar jaane se uske jaaye bahaar, badi mastani hai meri mehbooba by Rafi from Jeene Ki Raah (1969), lyrics Anand Bakshi, music Laxmikant-Pyarelal

During the late 60s and early 70s, LP were belting out such superhit songs in the voice of Rafi (and Lata Mangeshkar) routinely. Their rhythm was infectious. They were on way to breaking all records and displacing SJ from their pedestal. This song also uses the pair of words aana-jaana. Not my as great a favourite as their early 60s composition, but they had by now mastered the art of winning Filmfare Awards.

But I have not yet come across songs which uses both words with the emphasis added, chale aana-chale jaana. Since I am not able to locate songs with the tandem pairs, the best I can do is to give you my Vintage Era favourites with chale aana, and chale janaa.

7. Kabhi yaad kar ke gali paar kar ke chali aana hamare angana by Chitalkar and Binapani Mukherjee from Safar (1946), lyrics Gopal Singh Nepali, Music C Ramchandra

C Ramchandra was quite a genius. Whatever he sang became a superhit. This is one of his earliest hits. Note how the emphasis Chali aana hamaare angana embellishes the meaning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Z0nhfho8o&list=RDk4Z0nhfho8o&start_radio=1

8. Chale aana more raja wada yaad kar ke, chala aaun mori maina wada yaad kar ke by Paro Devi and GM Durrani from Heera (1947), lyrics Qamar Jalalabadi, music Husnlal-Bhagatram

Several elements make this song remarkable. First, the best of Vintage Era singing. Paro Devi starts at a high pitch, typical of Vintage Era female singing. The Rafi-predecessor GM Durrani remains in his comfort zone – middle range, but the contrasting pair pull the song to great heights. These varieties have disappeared with the Lata Mangeshkar becoming the Female playback singer, post-1949. Then note the emphasis word Chale aana. Another noticeable point is that GM Durrani does not respond to raja with rani as you commonly expect, but with extra-endearing Mori maina. Husnlal-Bhagatram, the first famous duo of music directors created a recognisable instrumentation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ueeJkx2jrQ&list=RD6ueeJkx2jrQ&start_radio=1

9. Phir chaahe to na aana O aan baan wale….Chale jaiho bedarda main roye marungi  by Rajkumari from Beqasoor (1950), lyrics Arzoo Lakhnavi, music Anil Biswas

For two chale aana songs, I have to end with two equally great Chale jana songs. The old master Anil Biswas was now overtaken by Naushad and C Ramchandra in popularity stakes. The latter had a magic touch of combining super-quality music with superhit, spectacular films. But the old master had not yet lost his creative genius. He composes a superb mujra in the voice of Rajkumari with the emphasis words Chale jaiho bedada main roye marungi.

10. Thahariye hosh mein aa lun to chale jaiyega by Rafi & Suman Kalynapur from Mohabbat Isko Kahte Hain (1965), lyrics Majrooh Sultanpuri, music Khayyam

Khayyam always maintained his top quality. This film from the mid-60s had many great songs. My special favourite is a fast-paced Mukesh-Asha Bhosle duet, Humse hoti mohabbat jo tumko, tum ye apna chalan chhod dete. It is rare for a film to have an equally superb Rafi-Suman Kalyanpur duet, Thahariye hosh mein aa lun to chale jaiyega. The combo word Chale jaiyega creates an ethereal impact.

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  1. Ashok ji,
    A very nice comparison. Currently, they came without inviting. Now the whole world would want them to just exit and end the whole thing. Now overstaying his welcome and does not know the exit door!

  2. Akji,
    I feel, your forced temporary inactivity was indeed a blessing in disguise. Reflecting on simple things yields amazing results and joy as well. As for the reflection, please continue in the same vein. The first song to come to mind was Bahon Mein Chale Aao..
    “Bahon mein chale aao,
    Ho hamse sanam kya parda,
    Yah aaj ka nahin milan,
    Yah sang hai umr bhar ka…
    ……………….
    Chale hi jaana hai,
    Najar churake yun,
    Phir thami thi saajan tumne,
    Meri kalaai kyun……

    This song is soothingly charming, gentle, and intimate—it is an open invitation to love that provides a tender, romantic moment, with a soft, subtle touch.”

    Bahon mein chale aao by Lata Mangeshkar, film Anamika (1973), lyrics Majrooh Sultanpuri, music R D Burman
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uzRGxe0LUs

  3. I like the result of your enforced hiatus, AK (I hope all is well. Yes, I know, not in the world, but for you personally).

    Wonderful selection of songs, and I agree that the ‘chale’ – whether with ‘aana’ or ‘jaana’ – adds a level of pleading, a desperation? Koi door se aawaaz de chale aao would not sound half as yearning if it was just aa jaao.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrHuBBIUAJo

  4. AAN MILO SAJNA

    Acha toh hum chalte hain….

    Has the word chalte more than a dozen times.

    Also ,

    Wahin , and later yahin….
    Jahan koi aata jaata nahin.

    Kisi ne dekha nahi tumhe aate aate?
    Aayee hoon chupte…

    Phir na kehna abhi aayee abhi chal di…

    Aao paas baitho zara ..

    So, lot of aana jaana here.
    Cute song. Well sung and nicely enacted.

  5. Ak ji
    Hope that everything is fine and your temporary inactivity will end soon.
    The subject fits to POTUS perfectly in the sense that in the morning he says Dil ki mehfil saji hai chale aayie ( only thing is that it’s a gruesome mehfil being his dil ki) and within hours he says ana hai to aao manayenge nahi.
    On a serious note, its very difficult to come close to Mukesh in this song which includes jaana and aana
    O Jaanewale ho sake to laut ke aana – Bandini – Shailendra – SDB
    https://youtu.be/FYf5HQHqBrQ?si=uPuVdRBh78IgPDj4
    Ho sake to is a commonplace phrase but how precisely Shailendra uses it to express the impossibility. Incidentally the song also fits into us paar theme and is yet another proof of your comment on Us paar songs ( that SDB is a greater master of us paar songs)
    De de ke ye awaaz tujhe koi har ghadi bulaye
    Phir jaye jo us paar kabhi laut ke na aaye

  6. Venkataraman ji @3,
    Baahon mein chale aao: is about the most seducing song picturised on Jaya Bhaduri. Your description, “soothingly charming, gentle, and intimate” has lifted the song to a higher plane. Thanks a lot.

  7. Madhu @4,
    Thanks a lot. Now I am perfectly OK. The hiatus was causing a war at home. I was addicted to the news – you know the screaming type with fake videos, loud explosions and all. This guy had been screaming the Third World War for a year now, so whatever happened he had announced it first on his channel. He would shout for no reason “Breaking News”. I would thank my wife for this post. She impounded the remote, and I was forced into reflecting on songs.

    Very beautiful song you have added. Koi door se aawaz de chale aao perfectly depicts the theme.

  8. Dr Shetty @5,
    Thanks a lot for this conversational aana-jana song. This is another addition to my list. But I am still looking for Chale aana-chale jaana in the same song. With your recall, I am sure you would crack it one day.

  9. Mr Muli @6,
    I am perfectly OK now, thank you. I wish the poor POTUS, too, found an exit route from this mess. O jaanewale is a perfect ‘us paar’ song. If a song is this poignant, I take it as a counter example to my theme. Where do you add “chale” in this song without diluting the meaning of the song.

  10. An interesting subject and a beautiful selection of songs. Could not guess what kept you away for so long. Even if wars give such simple and beautiful subjects at SOY , we must pray for such wars to end immediately. There are so many songs under this head but I post only one such simple song that comes to me first . Also, we are paying tribute to all those who created such beauties. Chitragupt was one such simple and great but remained in the shadows .

    https://youtu.be/eKd_NrgydFk?si=zOglfykPMFhhf0wv

  11. Mr S Joseph @11,
    “So long?” At least I made sure I kept regular supply of posts. Chitragupt is everyone’s favourite. What a sweet song from a B-grade movie, Aplam Chaplam: Chadhe chanda to tum bhi chale aana sajan tumhein pyar ki kasam. Thanks for adding this song which has the emphasis word Chale aana.

    I am with you that the war must end immediately.

  12. Venkataraman ji @12,
    You have beaten Dr Shetty to it. I thought he would be the first. We can’t ask for a better song than this. Wah wah! Ek baar chale aao…phir aa ke chale jana, absolutely perfect song.

  13. The Danny, Lata song from
    YE GULISTAN HAMARA
    caused controversy and the first line had to be deleted and we now here the song in the edited version.
    Though one Aao here is a nouns and not verb, I couldn’t resist posting.

    Mera naam Aao
    Mere paas aao
    Tera naam Aao
    Toh mera naam Jao.

  14. Dr Shetty,
    You have sort of fulfilled your promise. But I hope you would not mind giving the honours to Venkataraman ji.

  15. Absolutely.
    NV ji is beyond competition. Kudos.

    CHARAS

    Kal ke haseen mulaqat ke liye
    Aaj raat ke liye
    Hum tum juda ho jaate hain
    ….

    Main aaya , aap jaate hain
    Hum aap se sharmate hain…

  16. Ak ji,
    There was one more, by Raghav Sachar, a 2023 song; A good one;
    But the Mehdi Hasan song was too good.
    Chod kar chale gayen the tum jahaan,
    Main wahan se phir kahin gaya nahin
    …………………………………………
    Barson ka hai intezar aankhon mein hai ek tadap Thehar gai hai season mein bus
    Dua labon pe hai musalsal ye
    Kuch lamon ki baat hai Chale aana Jaan chali jaaye Phir Chale Jaana
    Kuch lamon ki baat hai Chale aana Jaan chali jaaye Phir Chale Jaana
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x42vgkwcUaA

  17. PREM NAGAR, 1974.

    Bye bye Miss , Good night
    Kal phir milenge…

    More vocal is:
    SAJAN CHALE SASURAL.

    Bye bye Miss, Good night
    See you again…

    Kal phir aana
    Jaldi na jaana…

  18. Dr Shetty @17,
    Kal ki haseen mulaqat ke liye: Good song as far as it goes. But I would not put it under my theme.

    @19
    Nice song of jana.

    @20,
    Nice song of jana and ana.

  19. Venkataraman ji @18,
    Raghav Sachar’s song too is absolutely befitting to the theme and has the combined expression Kuchh lamhon ki baat hai chale aana, jaan chali jaaye phir chale jaana, but the difference was Mehdi Hasan had emtion in his throat, and instrumentation evoked a period and style.

  20. Ak ji
    Would this AB special merit a place here:
    Ke jaan chali jaye
    Jiya nahi jaye
    Jiya jaye to phir
    Jiya nahi jaye
    Anjaana – LP- Rafi
    https://youtu.be/XLBl5SwPn5s?si=raaPLc6ae2xbzQ8R
    One loses the count of number of things ‘going’
    And this hugely popular Mehdi hasan gazal is not as perfect a fit as the one posted by Venkataraman Ji but still worth a mention
    Ranjish hi sahi – Ahmed Faraz
    https://youtu.be/Xc6uwbXpmUY?si=G3TGfHgCisgiO3S4
    Jaise tumhe aate hai
    Na aane ke bahane
    Waise hi kisi roj
    Na jaane ke liye aa

  21. Mr Muli,
    Ke jaan chali jaaye..: I would put it more as a Yamak song. I believe the lyricist used the words ‘Jaan’ ‘Jiya’ in two different senses. Plus the Daddy Rajendra Kumar cavorting around Babita is not a pleasant site. The expression ‘Chali jaaye’ does not give me an enhanced meaning.

    Ranjish hi sahi is a perfect song of aana-jana: Aa phir se mujhe chhod ke jaane ke liye aa.

  22. Excellent theme and songs. Welcome back AK.

    One related type would be where someone is imploring the other not to go as in ‘Chale jaana nahin nain milake.’ One of my favourite Rabindra Sangeet numbers is ‘O je maane na maana’ particularly the words ‘duaare daanraaye bole naa, naa, naa…’

    https://youtu.be/ab8ZVAT-Lpw?si=AY26r82G77aj6Vvh

  23. There is one more song which has a message to those who have uninvited accepted the message (bin bulaye mehmaan) ‘chale aao:

    Na Jaiyo Radhe Chhedenge Shyam, ….. Panghat Pe Kho Jayegi Golul Mein Ho Jayegi Tu Badnam

    https://youtu.be/27WrRAP8Qfw?si=nG_Jn-2l-6XsdxO5

    and here is one which is emotional pleading…

    Nadiya Ke Pani O Re Nadiya Ke Pani…. Chup Chup Jaiyo Sajana Se Kahiyo

    https://youtu.be/CQPJTxDr2dc?si=eaA2F2Z56fTE9Phj

    And one more ,,,,

    Chale Jaiyo Ho Bedarda Main Roe Maroongi

    https://youtu.be/zntYOlouE2o?si=rIKDNh2Flt6JGluP

  24. Ashok ji,
    Na jaiyo Radhe chhedenge Shyam: Heard for the first time. A beautiful song. Now I look at LP not only as the most successful duo, but also as high quality composers.

    Nadiya ke pani o re nadiya ke pani, Chup chup jayo sajna se kahiyo: Excellent song.

    Chale jaiho bedarda main roye marungi: is the last but one song in my post.

  25. AKji

    Welcome back 🙂 Hope all is well with you, and whatever necessitated your attention and time has been resolved satisfactorily.

    As far as the current world situation is concerned – Jaane do yaar, apna kuchh chalega nahin. Let us just take solace in our world of beautiful music and, at least for a little while, forget that the world is ruled by idiots – no offence intended to idiots 🙂

    I will leave the combo of Chale-Aaiye and Chale Jaaiye to the knowledgeable Gurus 🙂

    Not too sure if the following fit your criteria but here goes.

    Duniya Se Jaanewale Jaane Chale Jaate Hei Kahan (Mukesh)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA0oeRUA3vY&list=RDZA0oeRUA3vY&start_radio=1

    Aji Chale Aao Tumhein (Lata & Asha)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1f94HWKvoE&list=RDy1f94HWKvoE&start_radio=1

    Woh To Chale Gaye (Lata)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0IFaLCbSBU&list=RDZ0IFaLCbSBU&start_radio=1

  26. The iconic…

    Abhi na jao chhod kar ke dil abhi bhara nahin…

    Abhi abhi toh aaye ho…
    HUM DONO.

    Dhal gaya din , ho gayi raat
    Jaane do jaana hai
    Abhi abhi toh aaye ho
    Abhi abhi jaana hai..
    HUMJOLI.

    Zindagi mein kabhi koi aaye na Rabba
    Aaye toh phir chale jaaye na Rabba..
    MUSAFIR.

    There are both ‘ghar chale aana ‘ and ‘ ghar chalo ‘ here. Of course, both meaning ‘ aana ‘.

    Shayad meri shadi ka khayal…

    Theek tum char baje
    Ghar chale aana..

    …..
    Haan kaho
    Ghar chalo..
    SAUTEN.

    Just for the words. Not human movements:

    Mere samne wali khidki mein…
    ….
    Barsat bhi aa kar chali gayi..
    PADOSAN.

    Zindagi ke safar mein
    Guzar jati hain jo makaam
    ….
    Subah aati hai
    Sham jaati hai..
    AAP KI KASAM.

  27. Some clever lines in the
    DHARAM VEER song
    O meri Mehbooba..

    Tujhe jaana hai toh jaa

    Par dekh tu jo rooth kar chali jaayegi
    Tere saath hi mere marne ki khabar jaayegi
    ….

    …..
    Ke yaad meri dil tera tadpayegi
    Tere jaate hi tere aane ki khabar aayegi.

  28. Mahesh Joshi @29,
    Thanks a lot. I am perfectly fine and kicking. The current word situation – till now we have been amusing ourselves by circulating the Mad Man’s memes. But it is no loger funny, they threaten to take down the entire world with them. Our only hope is that the Mad Man had been announcing for the last few days that he has already won big, and now no targets are left. If he gets some respite, he may start dancing that he has won.

    Duniya se jaanewale jaane chale jaate hain kahan: A very nice song, good enough to be in.

    Aji chale aao: No doubts about it. It belongs.

    Wo to chale gaye ae dil: Good song. Fits indirectly.

    @30,
    Chalti jali jaaye: I would not put it here. It talks about an endless pathway.

  29. Dr Shetty @31,
    All the songs you have added are very nice.

    @32,
    Tujhe jana hai to ja: But Dharmendra gives a threat of committing suicide in the same song. So it is very different from Jana hai to jaao manayenge nahin, nakhre tumhare uthayenge nahin (song #3A in my post).

  30. Ak ji
    AB in much more pensive mood for kaka than in achha to hum chalte hai. First an appeal and then an ultimatum
    Ha ye rasme ye kasme
    Sabhi todke
    Tu chali aa
    Chunar pyar ki odhke
    Ya chala jaunga main
    Ye jag chhodke
    Jis gali me tera ghar- Kati Patang- RDB- Mukesh
    https://youtu.be/cCbErvTrZJg?si=4KYnkl5wRHcBnj7G
    Anil Biswas composed this gem for a nondescript movie Jalti Nishani
    Rooth ke tum to chal diye – Quamar Jalalabadi- Lata
    https://youtu.be/7v–L7-CyZ8?si=0aVwB_e7YK9F6EeL
    One of the best from Lata-MM combination
    Tum chaand ke saath chale aao – Aashiyna- Rajendra Krishn
    https://youtu.be/zseTkRU4pxA?si=T31YdsWZyPzy0_Ca

  31. Mr Muli,
    Jis gali mein tera ghar na ho balma is a very good song, but you have to wait o get the connection.

    Rooth ke tum to chal diye and Tum chaand ke saath chale aao are absolutely befitting songs.

  32. AKji
    Glad to hear all is well with you.

    Amen to your sentiments on the current world situation. Alas, I fear, this man-baby feeds on childish flattery and, for that, he has surrounded himself with super-class sycophants who fall over each other to grovel, fawn and lick his boots. Kher, jaane do.

    Getting back to the music, here are some additions.

    1. Tum Chali Jaogi (Rafi) Shagoon
    Once again Waheeda Rehman being serenaded, by a lesser known actor, with a classic Rafi song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm9jbBrvnAk&list=RDdm9jbBrvnAk&start_radio=1

    2. Tum Mujhse Dur Chale Jaana Na (Lata) Ishq Par Zor Nahin

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BvIBYmCV0E&list=RD0BvIBYmCV0E&start_radio=1

    3. Kinare Kinare Chale Jayenge (Suraiya) Vidiya
    One from the vintage era – hopefully not already posted by the vintage era experts 🙂 Dev Anand keeping the same expression throughout 🙂

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6IX–5YGI4&list=RDb6IX–5YGI4&start_radio=1

  33. AK ji,
    While Chale may indicate yearning and pleading, I feel it could also indicate a sense of affection for the person you are calling (अधिकार से बुलाना as they say in Hindi) and so you can insist. Also the word bhi (भी) could convey the same sense – Aa Aa Bhi Jaa from Teesri Qasam.

    The other song that I would add is from Halaku – Aji Chale Aao – where the same sense of belongingness and informality is expressed.

    Anita

  34. Anita,
    On my general view, there are some nuances. Aa bhi ja is one. Aji chale aao is not new, it is chale aana which gives an emphasis, or pleading.

  35. Mahesh Joshi @39,
    I see the you are quite cheesed off by the Man-baby. I don’t blame you, this Man-baby or Baby-Man has met his nemesis, but the three Mads have enough destructive power to destroy the whole global economy.

    1. Tum chali jaaogi, and 3. Kinare kinare chale jayenge are my great favourites. I think Vidya was the start of Suraiya-Dev Anand love affair.

    2. Tum mujhse door chale jana: Heard for the first time. Good song.

  36. AKji
    Good morning. Hope you had a good weekend and recovery is continuing to go well. Hope you have re-established your credentials and the impounded remote has been entrusted back in your hands 🙂

    Here are some more additions for the current thread. They all seem familiar, hopefully not because they’ve already been posted !

    1. Chale Aao Dil Mein (Lata) Balidaan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2xG6TOFTE0&list=RDn2xG6TOFTE0&start_radio=1

    2. Chale Aana Sanam (Asha Bhosle) Dekha Pyar Tumhara

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMS-u3nNZ5Q&list=RDTMS-u3nNZ5Q&start_radio=1

    3. Tum Chand Ke Saath Chale Aao (Lata) Aashiana

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK3S1I_P1Rk&list=RDKK3S1I_P1Rk&start_radio=1

  37. Mahesh Joshi,
    Thanks a lot for your concern. We have kept only one TV in home, a wise decision for domestic bliss. Hindi News channels give a good dose of opium. English channels are OK, except one by the Garrulous G – I weaned away from it myself long back – I had some sense left that it was not a model of Independent Media. But war made me addicted to the opium dished out by some Hindi channels. The TV remote comes back to me at 9pm and I take opium in limited doses, at a very low volume, and switch to an English news channel. Thanks again. I am perfectly OK and kicking.

    Of the three songs you have added Tum chaand ke saath chale aao has been my great favourite since long. Other two songs were new from me, but they were quite pleasant.

  38. Dr Deshpande @47,
    Aaiye aapka intezar tha: A very good song.

    @48,
    Aate hain chale jaate hain: Heard for the first time. A nice song.

    @49,
    Aate jaate main sab par nazar rakhta hun: Quite a popular song. This was referenced very well in the film, Laapata Ladies.

  39. After a long wait, Dr Rajesh chale aaye.
    Was he waiting for AK ji to go to him?

    Tere dar par sanam chale aaye
    Tum na aaye toh hum chale aaye…
    PHIR TERI KAHANI YAAD AAYI.

    Good music by Anu Malik for this telefilm.

    AK ji had said? :

    Aana hi hoga tujhe aana hi hoga
    Aana hi hoga…
    ( Taron se pyare….)
    DIWANA, 1967.

  40. Ak ji , Rajesh ji and Pradeep ji
    Rajesh ji has posted aayie aapka intezar tha
    Almost similar opening line in
    Aayiye aapka tha Hume intezar- Mahal –
    AB- KA- Asha
    https://youtu.be/YowbckZbkHU?si=Azin70eNdbcPpEiN
    Farida Jalal playing a vamp before she settled into sister roles
    Pradeep ji has posted chale aaye songs
    here are chale gaye songs
    Unke khayal aaye to – Lal patthar – Hasarat -SJ- Rafi
    https://youtu.be/YcvssR8B70M?si=hEeW_MIxCo3eSc5X
    Hum bekhudi me tumko – Kala pani- Majrooh-SDB- Rafi
    https://youtu.be/Bz4SvsSCoxE?si=c1WPrmi-Vs6qu-Bn
    I think ‘chale gaye’ is used with subtle change of nuances in each

  41. Dr Shetty @52,
    I feel flattered that Dr Deshpande was waiting for me, and even if I didn’t come he came anyway. Tere ar pe sanam hum chale aaye; Tum na aaye to hum chale aaye is a nice song

  42. Mr Muli @53,
    Aaiye aapka tha humein intezar is an uncharacteristic song for Farida Jalal. One feels sad for her, that she has to go through all this before she finally finds her slot.

    Unke khayal aaye to aate chale gaye: A very beautiful song of ‘chale gaye’. How tables have turned! GM Durrani once was the hero of Rafi. He is now giving payback for GM Durrani.

    Hum bekhudi mein tmko pukaare chale gaye: A nice song.

  43. Jaate ho toh jao
    Par itna sun lo
    ….
    NASEEB.

    Jaa , jaldi bhaag jaa…
    DESH PREMI

    Jaate ho Jane Jana
    Aakhri salam lete jaana…
    PARVARISH.

  44. Kahan chal diye
    Idhar toh aao…
    JHUK GAYA ASMAN.

    Saverewali gadi se chale jaayenge
    ….
    LAAT SAAB.

  45. One more RK..

    Yahan koi nahin tere mere siwa

    Tum sab ko chod kar aa jao…
    FIL EK MANDIR

    The title song talks about jaanewale.

    I have several interesting Ghost songs lined up fitting the theme. I had thought Rajesh might post them.

  46. Idhar aa, aa, aa bhi jaa
    Chali kahan?
    Aaj jaane nahin doonga….
    DHANWAN.

    There aren’t many Sahir, Hridaynath Mangeshkar, KK songs to be found.

  47. Dr Shetty @56,
    All the three songs you have added are quite nice.

    @57,
    Kahan chal diye idhar to aao from Jhuk Gaya Aasman
    Saverewaali gaadi se chale jayenge from Laat Saaheb, both were popular compositions of SJ in their time.

    @58,
    Or the person has already left, and there is a pleading, Tum sabko chhodkar chale aao.

    @59,
    Heard for the first time.

  48. Dr. Deshpande @61,
    Mere Sanam both songs must be among two to favourites of Asha Bhosle for her fans.

    @62,
    Aate ho, jaate ho: Heard for the first time.

    @63,
    Jaate ho to jaao par jaaoge kahan, Babuji phir aisa dil paaoge kahan: A beautiful composition. N Datta was a very talented composer.

    @64,
    Tum chale aayo ho, to khair hui: Heard for the fist time, but a very good song.

  49. I don’t think this has ever happened on the blog. Asking a simple question:
    Aa kar dekhte jaana…
    Words from which beautiful song that plays multiple times in a 60s movie that has 4 timeless female solos?
    Easy one.

  50. Dr Shetty @67, 68, 69
    Mr Muli @70,
    Nice quiz. In the days of internet it is solvable. With your clue, I started with Madan Mohan’s films Mera Saya and Woh Kaun Thi and hit upon Mera Saya‘s Naina barse rimjhim rimjhim. You can’t help such cheating in this era. Before the internet and HFGK you had to wrack your brains quite a lot.

  51. Rahul ji,

    Absolutely. I wanted to add Chala aa, but thought it was not necessary bcs it was an easy quiz.

    AK ji,

    Yes.
    It is Naina barse.

    I am considered to be an expert on Movie n Music trivia plus Antakshari. But, you will be surprised to know that I never cheat even in this era!

  52. Dr Deshpande @74,
    Tumne pukara aur hum chale aye: Perfect song for the theme.

    @75,
    Nigaahein kyun bhatakti hain..humin tak hai har ek manzil chale aao chale aao: My favourite song and perfectly belongs to the theme.

    @76,
    Chala jata hun kisi ki dhun mein: A very nice song.

    @77,
    Wo to chale gaye ae dil: Best of Sajjad Hussain

    @78,
    What a great song! Perfect.

    @79, @80,
    Both songs are new from me.

  53. NV ji
    Thank you so much.
    I should clarify that in my circle I am supposed to be an expert. But, there are do many more knowledgeable people including you,in the 2 blogs that are my favourites:
    ASAD and SOY .

    Uncanny how you mentioned
    Koi door se awaz de chale aao!!!

    You have noted that I am keeping my Ghost songs in reserve ( time constraints .. will have to do tomorrow ) . Though in no way a Ghost song ( does it appear in the movie after Choti Bahu’s death and Bhootnath ‘s return to the haveli? I don’t remember. If so, it does qualify ) , I was going to include this in the G songs with an explanation that it has a G feel to it.
    And, it is one of my favourite GD songs.
    Hope you are doing well and all is good with the family. Take care. Do call during your next travel to the South of the Vindhyas.
    You were the first person from the 2 blogs I met in person and after that I met 4 more including Mahesh ji and Dr Rajesh ji. So, the memory of meeting you is special. You were in the process of writing a special post for SOY then.

  54. Ak ji
    Rumormongers are having a field day here at my place. Lockdown rumors have led to endless queues and empty petrol pumps.
    I am forced to work from home and as such have ample time to follow Pradeep Ji’s footsteps in quizzing
    1 70’s song involving Bharatratna but not a nightingale
    2 A song referring to Ex – Pak PM who is a ‘gentleman’
    3 post 80 the heroes became very busy. Therefore Hero here is stipulating the exact time and place of the meeting so that time is not wasted.

  55. Rahulji,
    The only singer other than Lata Mangeshkar to receive “Bharat Ratna” was M S Subbalakshmi. But I cannot recollect any relevant song of her sung or recorded in the 70s. Is it Ravi Shankar ? He composed music for the film “Meera” realased in late 1970s, and most of the songs were rendered by Vani Jayram.

    Answer to the other two questions is beyond me. And don’t want to take the help of AI.

    Akji may have the answers.

  56. I would guess Bhupen Hazaribagh. Now Venkataramanji, you can take over. You need not be squeamish about taking the help of digital platform as long as you are honest about it.

  57. Rahulji @ 86,
    Ok. That is why I suggested Ravi Shankar . (MD – Meera)
    Or could it be Hindi songs from Satyajt Ray’s films Jay Baba Felunath and Sonar Kella?

  58. Pradeepji @ 83,
    yes, you are right. It occurs right at the beginning of the movie, when Bhoothnath returns after several years to the ruins of the erstwhile zamindar haveli. Some say it was part of the deleted climax scene, but I am not sure. And again, you are correct: although it is not a ghost song, it has an eerie feeling. Sorry for pre-empting you! Awaiting your ‘G’ songs in reserve.

    Everything is fine with me and my family, and I hope the same for you. It has been a long time since I visited Bengaluru and the “south of the Vindhyas.” I might be visiting Bangalore frequently between May and July this year. Let’s see how it goes.

    Yes, I recall that meeting. It was on the morning of July 9th or 10th, 2019, in Mangalore. It was my pleasure as well. The post you are referring to was about ‘Vande Mataram’ (26.01.2020). Thank you for bringing it up. I look forward to meeting again soon.

    Let me post a typical Kishore Kumar song
    Maza Jeene ka tum jo Chao,
    Andhar Chale aao,
    Kishore Kumar, Asit sen chorus, Kasam Khoon ki (1977), Verma Mallick, Kalyanji-Anandji
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv7RvZWJOnI

  59. Ak ji’ s guess is perfect, Bhupen Hazarika composed music for very few hindi films and it is not from Rudali

  60. Akji @ 87 & Rahulji @ 99,
    I think it is from the 1974 film Aarop.
    Champa ke das phul chameli ki ek kali
    are haye murakh ki sari rain chatur ki ek ghadi
    CHALE AAO NA SATAO CHALE AAO NA SATAO
    mori hiyra ki agni bujhae jao re
    Asha Bhosle, Maya Govind
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm1NZp9aq4I
    Trial and error got it done, not AI.

  61. Venkataraman Ji
    Absolutely!! It was the debut in Hindi Films for Bhupen Hazarika but the song was not very well known. I had watched the movie during my college days and it had a nice duet Naino me darpan hai by Lata and Kishor

  62. Mr Muli @84, @86, @90, @93,
    Venkataramanji @85, @88, @91, @92, @94,
    I don’t yet know the Quiz Master’s verdict, so I am not yet doffing my cap. I have a counter question to both of you. Why not Satyajit Ray’s Shatranj Ke Khiladi. He was a Bharat Ratna. Its songs were not sung by the Nightingale, but Reba Muhuri, Birju Maharaj, Amjad Khan. A more perfect answer. Did Bhimsen Joshi did something in the 1970s?

  63. Ak ji
    All three songs are related to this theme. I haven’t heard Shatranj ke Khiladi songs but they may not be related to the theme

  64. Mr Muli @96,
    My interest span is very limited these days: Trump effect. I am only interested in knowing that I have won. If you say so, I would pat my back.

  65. Ak ji
    Trump has Pakistan as an indispensable side kick (Ajit’s Robert). So you will also get song 1 . By the way the “banda” I am referring to as the ex- Pak PM is “Nawaz” ( Sharif)

  66. Mr Muli @98, 99,
    I am impressed by your Quiz making capability. I came to know from cryptic crossworders, that it is the quality of clue which differentiates a good from bad one.

  67. Mr S Joseph,
    Chale ja chale ja jahan pyar mile is a beautiful song. A rare exception where a female version sounds better than the male version.

  68. Akji,
    Congratulations to you and the SoY team! It has been a while since a post crossed the 100-comment milestone. The top-performing post recently was ‘Zindagi ae zindagi, zindagi tere hain do roop’ on 16th May 2025, with 87 comments. Previously, on 24th December 2024, “Rafi’s duets with different music directors over the years” garnered 126 comments, following Anitaji’s “Love Counsellors in Bollywood” (116 comments) on 30 June 2023.

  69. Akji,
    We have both Jaana aur Aana in this song:

    Judaa hum ho gaye maana
    Magar yeh jaan lo jaana
    Kabhi main yaad aaun toh
    CHALE AANA, CHALE AANA
    ……..
    Yahin tak tha safar apna
    Tumhe hai LAUT KAR JAANA
    Kabhi main yaad aaun toh
    CHALE AANA, CHALE AANA
    Singer Armaan Malik, film De De Pyar De (2019), lyrics Kunal Verma, music Amaal Mallick
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN3enhDqHis

  70. Dr Deshpande @103,
    Is there also a Pee ke hum tum jo chale aye hain is mehfil mein sung by a male singer? This could be a song, or recital prelude.

    @104, @105,
    Heard for the first time. But Salma Aga and Manhar song Chale aao chale aao koi wada nahin phir bhi is very pleasant and has nice lyrics.

  71. Venkataraman ji @107,
    Thanks a lot. But generally my answer is some blogs have very quality but don’t have much traffic.

    @108,
    Nice song. It has jana all right, and also chale aana. Thanks a lot. Have you come across songs having both with emphasis words Chale aana, Chale jaana.

  72. AKji @ 110,
    I I haven’t yet come across a song that features both ‘Chale aana’ and ‘Chale jaana’ as emphasized lyrics. The closest match was Mehdi Hassan’s song, ‘Ek Baar Chale Aao, Phir Aake Chale Jaana’ [12], and a somewhat closer alternative was ‘Judaa Hum Ho Gaye Maana’ [108]. The one posted by Rajeshji [48], ‘Aate hain chale jaate hain,’ is also quite close. I am posting a few more songs that are very similar.

    Jab Aane Wale Aate Hain, Phir Aake Chale Kyo Jaate Hai Madhosh 1951 Raja Mehdi Ali Khan Madan Mohan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llf2Le8XYbw&list=RDLlf2Le8XYbw&start_radio=1

    Aa ab LAUT CHALE
    nain bichaye baahe pasare
    tujhko pukare desh tera
    aa ab laut chale
    aa ab laut chale
    nain bichaye baahe pasare
    tujhko pukare desh tera
    AA JA RE aa aa aa
    Mukesh & Lata Mangeshkar, Shailendra, Shankar-Jaikishan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMgxhBJ7UWo

    Mere Saamne Se Jab Woh GUJAR JAATE HAIN
    Baarish Liye BADAL CHALE AATEIN HAI
    NFS, Singer Raaj Barman, lyrics Rashmi Virag, music Jeet ganguly
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F7g6Rnx2o

  73. Venkataraman ji,
    Mehdi Hassan’s Ek baar chale aao, phir aa ke chale jana, to my mind remains the best, and it is also a perfect fit. I have heard the other songs too, but I don’t find them as good.

    The search is on for a Golden/Vintage Era famous song which has both Chale aana and Chale jana in it.

  74. Yet to read some of the comments.
    Quiz time again.

    This 70s movie was supposed to be a spin off from WKT. But, unlike the classic WKT, not many have seen it though the husband and wife technical team have given quite a few hit movies and many good songs.
    The popular hero and heroine entered the industry in different capacities/ categories and were highly successful in those.
    A very popular comedian was the villain and a popular villain was seen in a good role.

    One of the rare Ghost songs by the younger sister. Most of the popular ones were by Didi. Only one remarkable song, at least which I remember off hand is from a non Mangeshkar:
    Mere mehboob na jaa
    Aaj ki raat na jaa.

    The song was fairly popular and was regularly heard on the airwaves.

    ‘Aa ‘is there.
    Later, there is a stress on it as if mandatory to ‘ Aa’.

  75. Pradeepji,
    I think I got the answer. Though in a circuitous route, not exactly in a fair way. I will leave it for others to try. Tell me, was there a male solo fitting the theme in the same film ?

  76. I suppose the answer is Ab Kya Hoga 1977. Sawan Kumar and Usha Khanna, Shatrughan Sinha and Neetu Singh. Asrani was the villian

    Aa ddvta tu apni pujarin ke paas aa

  77. Dr Shetty,
    Thanks for giving the song. Now I remembered easily:

    Suman Kalyanpur sings Mere mehboob na ja, aaj ki raat na ja, honewali hai sahar.. from Noormahal, music director, if I remember correctly, was Jani Babu Qawwal. Beyond this I have to cheat. Not possible now as I am away.

    WKT, I first thought you meant WAQT, but I couldn’t see the connection. The song reminded me of Woh Kaun Thi. A nice quiz.

  78. AK ji, NV ji, Rajesh,

    Yes.
    Aa Devta…
    Aana hi hoga..( Or is it Aana hoga? )

    Ranjith in a ‘ good ‘ role.

    Fairly easy, actually. I wanted to add that the heroine sings a song to a Saint who lived till the last century.

  79. NV ji,

    I think there is a Rafi Asha duet. 4 Asha solos. No male solo to the best of my knowledge.

    Let’s see what was on your mind.

  80. Chale jaa chale jaa chale jaa
    JAHAN PYAR MILE

    Sawan ke jhoole pade
    Tum chale aao…
    JURMANA

    Tu kal chala jayega toh main kya karoonga?
    Duet n solo .
    NAAM

    Chitti aayee hai aayee hai..
    has
    Chod gaya, aa jaa several times.

    There is jao na n aa kar here:
    Door door tum rahe…
    CHALTE CHALTE

    Aane se uske aaye bahaar
    Jaane se uske …
    JEENE KI RAAH

  81. Rahulji @120,
    Thank you.
    Both the quiz masters are doing a great job.
    And it is becoming more interesting.

  82. NV ji,
    Very interesting.
    Never heard before!
    Fairly good song. Yes, I think it was edited out.

  83. So glad to learn that your hiatus was nothing more than your wife whisking your remote away. Sensible woman! 🙂 Gladder still to return from my hiatus to read this post.

    I really like the distinction you have made between aaiye and chale aaiye, jaaiye and chale jaaiye.
    This lovely song from Ashiana, however, is rather informal – Chale aao, says Lata… Tum chaand ke saath chale aao.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwcWuLdiH3s

  84. Anu,
    Thanks a lot for dropping in and your comments. Living in Trumpistan, you are in a paradise of fake videos, and frequently changing narratives. Or, you guys have also become insular to the news outside the USA like an average American? An Indian-American friend, who was recently visiting, was surprised to see so much anti-US sentiment in India. I told him he has to thank his President for that.

    I agree with you, Tum chaand ke saath chale aao is a neutral song.

  85. Ashwin,
    I have to welcome you again on SOY. And typical of you, you have forced me to think with your novel idea. I would say, Padhariye in conjunction with aaiye creates the same effect of emphasis. I would say ‘yes’ and thanks a lot for a good example.

  86. Venkataramanji @125, Dr. Shetty @127

    I had some recollection of hearing this Shailendra Singh song in the film, seen years ago.
    Wanted to confirm so, I skimmed through the film.
    And yes only the mukhda plays in the film, twice in the background, once on Bindu and then on Asrani.

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