Songs of Yore completes 15 years.

7 June 2025

Fifteen has a nice ring to it. However, the beginning of the 15th year gave me a little concern. With the introduction of a new law in place of the Indian Penal Code, Taazirat-e-Hind Dafa 302 in our court room movies would be a thing of the past. Because there would be no Taazirat-e-Hind on the statutes. And there would be no Dafa 302, or maqtool’s body being dragged in the court or tumbling out of a wardrobe door either. In those movies the hero, wrongly accused of Dafa 302, used to be acquitted on the basis of Tamaam gawaahon ke bayanat and Vakeele-e-safaai’s daleels, and Memberaan-e-Jury’s opinion. Also gone would be some cultural symbols and songs. However, our parliamentarians were not concerned with that. They were all concerned with protecting our Samvidhan – from the other side. We saw in the election campaign competitive ferocity to protect the Constitution. When the parliament convened, there was pandemonium to save the Constitution with everyone waving a copy of the Book. We saw the same ferocity to protect the Constitution by all the parties in some state elections. We must admire the voters that in this mayhem too they are able to elect a winner.

This takes me to a puzzling situation. Long ago Bhartrihari said सर्वे गुणाः कांचनमाश्रयन्ते (All the virtues reside in the wealthy). Tulsidas said the same thing in different words: समरथ को नहीं दोष गोसाईं (The powerful are faultless). I paraphrase these aphorisms in modern democracies as: People’s mandate purges a person of all crimes. We saw this in the most powerful as well as the most populous democracies – the two countries which pride themselves on the Rule of Law.

Shree 420, Bharatiya Nyay Sanhita and some idiomatic expressions of crimes and criminals

BNS is the new law replacing the Indian Penal Code, or Taazirat-e-Hind of our movies. Though BNS is bilingual as are all our laws, the title Bharatiya Nyay Samhita remains the same, there is no English nomenclature. Along with BNS, the two complementary criminal laws – The Criminal Procedure Code and The Indian Evidence Act – also went through similar transmutation. This was an overdue exercise because these laws/codes were a legacy of the British era, and some redundant crimes needed to be removed, and some new ones added.

I was curious what happens to our dear char sau bees. In the climax of Shree 420 (1955), Raj Kapoor exposes all the white-collar crooks and adds the honorific ‘Shree’ as a sarcasm. He also adds Dekh lijiye, ye poore char sau bees hain; nahin ye aath sau chalees hain. I had once speculated that the idiomatic use of 420 must have started after the RK film. But soon I realised that it had to be earlier because you find this expression in this song of 1950.

1. Humse nain milana BA pass kar ke by Shamshad Begum and Mukesh from Aankhein (1950), lyrics Raja Mehdi Ali Khan, music Madan Mohan

The woman has set the bar very high for her man – he has to be BA Pass, no less (those days BA Pass was a big thing). The man shows his BA degree, but the woman dismisses it as a jhoothi degree. The song is full of earthy and colloquial expressions – Apni ye chaar sau bees kisi aur pe chalao; Koode mein phenk aao; Bhaand mein jaaye aisa pyar; Gussa na dilana bakwas kar ke. Can you believe this is written by Raja Mehdi Ali Khan, who achieved fame as the writer of some superb songs and ghazals for the classes! – Aap ki nazron ne samjha pyar ke qaabil mujhe; Agar mujhse mohabbat hai; Lag ja galey ki phir ye haseen raat ho na ho. And contrast these with the funky lyrics of Humse nain milana:

M: Ye hai BA ki degree, gori gusse mein na aao
F: Apni ye char sau bees kisi aur pe chalaao
Jaao ye hai jhoothi degree isko koode mein phenk aao
Jaaye bhaand mein aisa pyar, tere ye nakhre hain bekaar
Humko gussa na dilana bakwas kar ke

It is interesting how characters from the world of crime enter popular folklore across cultures: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid; Bonny And Clyde; the latter’s Indian inspiration Bunty Aur Babli. There is a most notorious gangster, currently in jail; his name sends terror down the spine of a famous Bollywood superstar. There are now social media posts glorifying him as a selfless protector of our environment, wild life and culture. Natwarlal, a fraudster and con-artist prided himself for his ‘art’ and inspired many persons. He also spawned a famous movie Mr Natwarlal. There are many songs on chor and dakait. Once I had written on Kleptomania in Bollywood in a lighter vein. But the crime-busters have also fascinated filmmakers. An interesting song is Bada hi CID hai wo neeli chhatriwala. Darogaji, Sipahiya have also inspired many songs. (Brand names and proper names, too, becoming products, adjectives, and idiomatic expressions is an interesting phenomenon. Isko xerox karna hai; Fedex kar do; Dalda is not good for health; Bada Gama pahalwan banta hai etc.)

Chaar sau bees as an idiomatic expression was in consonance with the IPC section 420 for cheating. I discussed with some friends when would the word have entered our language. A friend suggested that the earliest time should be 1860 when IPC came into existence. Another friend suggested that the usage might have been popular to mean a cheat, and the Britishers might have considered it expedient to use section 420 for this crime. The chicken and egg question has been rendered irrelevant, because in the BNS it is section 318. Try, Wo bada teen sau attharah hai; Ye teen sau attharah kahin aur dikhao – does not make any sense. There is no hope of restoring its number either, as the total number of sections in BNS is 358. Thus, while I celebrate the 15th anniversary of SOY, there is a tinge of sadness that the popular slang 420 is gone for ever. Same is the fate of Dafa 302 which we all understood for murder. (The crime is there in the BNS under a different number).

But the year was not sadness all through. The world around us was seeing much worse than some MPs coming to fisticuffs – all for the noble cause of honouring the memory of Babasaheb Ambedkar. No one knew who was fighting whom in Syria; we do not know how the world would stabilise after the economic shocks delivered by the Master Disrupter, the current POTUS. Amidst all this D Gukesh gave us unalloyed joy, though it was marred soon after by our cricket superstars in the test series with Australia. They have redeemed themselves somewhat by winning the ICC ODI Championship Trophy 2025.

Kashmir after a long gap was turning into a paradise on earth. The terrorists and their handlers can’t tolerate normalcy in the valley. The Pahalgam massacre shows they are bent upon turning it into hell. This stokes fire in the fringe elements within our society who outdo themselves in senseless rantings. The retaliatory strike by India assuaged the victims to some extent, but can it bring back their lost dear ones? All-out war is not a joke, it was sensible of both the countries to return from the brink of precipice, but the social media heroes were braying for fight to the finish.

Ukraine-Russia was getting more horrifying. Ukraine has just delivered a Pearl Harbour punch on Russia. Now one fears a ferocious reaction from Russia.  I didn’t intend to clutter this post with current events. But how can one ignore the stampede at Bangalore a couple of days ago in which at least 11 people lost their lives? All for having a glimpse of their favourite cricket hero who had just won the IPL final as a team member of Royal Challengers Bangalore! My post on 16 May was about how Haar Jeet, Sukh Dukh, Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham – the two opposite feelings are an integral part of life, sometimes occurring simultaneously. In this case I am simultaneously sad and angry – angry at the collective frenzy and madness of the crowd! And angry at the cricket and state administration on the total mismanagement and complete absence of any crowd control. But why were you in such a tearing hurry to organise their road show and a public facilitation and let lakhs converge on a stadium of capacity 35000? Since the netas are all-powerful in our system, they are faultless, police officers are being suspended, and cricket managers getting arrested.

Rafi Centenary, Kalyanji-Anandji, Usha Khanna, RD Burman

The SOY year spans across two calendar years. Thus, Rafi’s centenary celebrations which started on 1 January 2024 also continued in the 15th SOY year. I had intended to conclude it on 24 December 2024. But some well-known Rafians on SOY could not have enough of Rafi and I had to extend the celebrations in 2025. I thank all the guest authors who joined me in paying their tribute to the legendary singer in the centenary celebrations.

Some readers had once mentioned the omission of Kalyanji-Anandji on SOY. I covered them, too, in a series of articles. The year also saw a series of tributes to the prominent sole female music director of the Golden Era, Usha Khanna, and October 2024 was entirely devoted to her. In the year-wise review of the best songs, I covered 1941 which concluded in the calendar year 2024 year as usual. Besides, we had the usual miscellaneous fare.

What next in 2025? One part of the question is who comes after Kalyanji-Anandji and Usha Khanna? After some agonising, I settled on RD Burman and the year started with a review of his biography by Anirudha Bhattacharjee & Balaji Vittal, on 4th January which was RD Burman’s 31st Remembrance Day. In my mind he is a post-1970 phenomenon. Post-1970s is not my forte. Nevertheless, I hope to give him a befitting tribute with a series of articles on him with support from the readers. RD Burman was renowned for his unique experiments with sound, especially rhythm. Our prolific guest writer, Ashok Vaishnav, had last year concluded an excellent series on musical instruments which embellished our songs. Ashokji has joined the series of tributes to RD Burman with his first article on his improvisations in rhythm. I would continue with the year-wise review of the songs of 1940 in 2025. Thus, quite a busy year and the caravan goes on. I must thank all the readers and guest writers who have made this journey enriching and rewarding.

Heer songs: Waris Shah

During Rafi’s extended centenary celebrations Hans Jakhar had included in his article a song in the Punjabi Heer style rendered nicely by Rafi. That set me on a journey of Heer songs. I am not from that land so what I write is gleaned from the Internet. Heer songs relate to the folk love legend of Heer-Ranjha of Punjab. It seems the tragic ending of love stories has charmed different cultures for centuries spawning a host of folk love legends – Laila Majnu, Heer Ranjha, Shirin Farhad, Sohni Mahiwal, Mirza Sahiban, Sassi Pannun, and many others. Heer Ranjha stories have been written by many Punjabi poets, some going back 400 years, but Waris Shah’s work ‘Heer’, written about 260 years ago, is its most famous rendering and respected for its high literary merit. Now there is a tradition of singing this song at the bidaai of a daughter to her marital place after her wedding.

2. Lo rukh badal raha hai phir zindagi ka by Rafi from the film Banoo (1949), lyrics unknown, music Ram Prasad

This was the song included by Hans in his post. This is rendered by Rafi in perfect Punjabi Heer style. Being from that land, Rafi could master its spirit and style perfectly. Most of the SOY veterans know Ram Prasad as the father of Pyarelal of LP. A highly respected musician and teacher, Ram Prasad could not get much commercial success as a music director. But he gives an excellent song to Rafi.

3. Sadke Heer tujhpe, hum fakeer sadke by Rafi from Mera Naam Joker (1970), lyrics Prem Dhawan, music Sankar-Jaikishan

Rafi shows his prowess in Heer in this song from Mera Naam Joker, but sadly, I think, this song was excised in the final cut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r804WmRRg9I

4. Doli le chadhte hi Heer ne bain kiye, mujhe le chale babul le chale by Lata Mangeshkar from Heer Ranjha (1970), lyrics Traditional/ Kaifi Azmi, music Madan Mohan

Now I post this bidaai song from Heer Ranjha (1970), composed by Madan Mohan in the traditional Punjabi Heer style, sung by Lata Mangeshkar. The uploader wrongly mentions Khayyam as the composer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rDCgJRyB_8

5. Doli charhdiyan marian by Asha Singh Mastana

But for getting the real feel of the soil of Punjab I post here the Heer song from the legendary folk singer Asha Singh Mastana. The label also mentions Surinder Kaur, but I could not hear her voice.

6. Ae baad-e-saba aahista chal yahan soyi hui hai Anarkali by Hemant Kumar from Anarkali (1953), lyrics Rajendra Krishna, music C Ramchandra

Who could have thought that a Maharashtrian music director would have a Bengali singer sing in Punjabi Heer style! There is no limit to creativity of our film makers and music directors. This Hemant Kumar song for another love legend Salim-Anarkali is my great favourite.

7. AR Rahman and plagiarism: Shiv Stuti by Dagars

For a famous celebrity in a creative field, any whiff of plagiarism is a serious charge. AR Rahman was recently in a highly embarrassing situation. Ustad Wasifuddin Dagar, the flag-bearer of the famed Dagar Gharana, has accused AR Rahman of lifting the tune of his family’s composition Shiv Stuti, for his song Veera Raja Veera in the Tamil film PS-2 made by Mani Ratnam. Wasifuddin Dagar says his late father Ustad Nasir Faiyazuddin Dagar and uncle Ustad Nasir Zahiruddin Dagar – known as junior Dagars – made this stuti in Raag Adana world famous, and Rahman’s song, except for changing the lyrics, lifts the same basic tune. This raises complex questions of traditional compositions in classical raags, ownership and copyrights. This has no easy answer and I would not have given much thought to it, but Delhi High Court seems to be convinced by Dagar’s accusation and has asked Rahman to pay ₹2 crores to the Dagar family, plus ₹2 lakhs as legal costs. We are going to see tough legal battle ahead. Please listen to the two compositions for yourself. Needless to say, both are out of this world.

Shiva Shiva Shiva in Raag Adana by Ustad Wasifuddin Dagar

Veera Raja Veera, a traditional Dagarvani sung by various Dhrupad singers from Ponniyin Selvan-2, composed by AR Rahman

8. AR Rahman and Kazi Nazrul Islam family controversy about the song Karar oi lauho kapaat from film Pippa (2023), music AR Rahman

Rahman had landed in a similar controversy over Kazi Nazrul Islam’s iconic song of protest Karar oi lauho kapaat in the film Pippa (2023), a film in the backdrop of liberation of Bangladesh. Kazi Nazrul Islam had written and composed this song protesting the arrest of CR Das in the Non Co-operation movement. In this case Rahman had taken permission from the family to ‘adapt’ the tune. The family was still aggrieved that ‘adaptation of tune’ did not mean ‘to murder the iconic song’ and wanted their name to be removed from acknowledgements. My Bengali friends are convinced Rahman has mauled the tune. हाथ कंगन को आरसी क्या? Let me present both the tunes for yourself. (I think the song means we would break the iron door of the prison.)

Karaar oi lauho kapaat by Kazi Nazul Islam

Karaar oi lauho kapaat by various singers from film Pippa (2023), lyrics by Kazi Nazrul Islam, music AR Rahman

9. S00lamangalam sisters sing Panchashatpeethroopini in Carnatic Devgandhari

I had mentioned once that I was privileged to be on the mailing list of one Mr S Gopalakrishnan. This list he has made only for sharing classical music pieces from both Hindustani and Carnatic music. Recently he sent a composition sung by Sulamangalam sisters in Raag Devgandhari. Both the singers and the raag names were new to me. But the music was absolutely melodious and enthralled me enough to share it with the readers of SOY. One site says it is a Dikshitar composition. Mr Gopalakrishnan says the sisters were one of the earliest duo singers in Carnatic music and were regular at Kerala temple festival circles in the 1960s and 70s. As a lay person, the piece sounds to me like Bhimpalasi, which is similar to Abheri in Carnatic music. Even if Devgandhari is a different raag, I don’t know why it is qualified as Carnatic Devgandhari. I don’t think there is a raag by this name in Hindustani classical system, though there is a Gandhari. There is also a Devgandhar which to my mind is like Asavari/Jaunpuri. I am leaving the finer discussion for the experts, but please enjoy the sublime music.

Acknowledgement and Disclaimer:
The song links have been embedded from the YouTube only for the listening pleasure of the music lovers. This blog has no commercial interest and neither the blog nor the writer claim any copyright over the songs.

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1 Dr. Rajesh Deshpande June 7, 2025 at 10:54 AM

AKji,
Heartiest Congratulations for completing glorious 15 years of SoY. A landmark milestone, it is a remarkable feat to consistently provide such innovative, entertaining and enriching posts one after the other. Shows your passion and dedicated efforts.

The first post that I had commented om, was 5 years ago, when SoY completed 10 years, joining quite late.
This celebration post is equally interesting. As I said before, I am always impressed with the way you create themes incorporating current social and political affairs. This too, is complemented with nice relevant songs, of which some are new to me.

Looking forward to many similar stimulating posts from you and wishing us readers many more years of exciting reading on SoY!!

2 KB June 7, 2025 at 11:26 AM

Heartiest Congratulations on this achievement! It was always enterprising.

3 AK June 7, 2025 at 11:37 AM

Dr Deshpande,
Thanks a lot for your greetings and nice words.

4 AK June 7, 2025 at 11:38 AM

KB,
Thanks a lot for your greetings.

5 Sivanandam June 7, 2025 at 1:31 PM

Congratulations AK Ji for successfully completing 15 years of SOY!!
Truly requires teremendous perseverance to continue a blog for one and half decades with almost the entire Hindi film music artists covered.
As your post appears to be a collection of different themese, I would like to add something from my side that might be of interest.
Soolamangalam sisters were a sister-pair , Jayalakshmi ( elder) and Rajalakshmi and are well known in Tamil Nadu as classical singers and are even more known for their rendering of the Kanda Shashti Kavacham-a devotional song composed by Devaraya Swamigal in 19th Century -a devotee of Lord Murugan as Kartikeya is known in T.N. This hymn is played mostly in everyone’s house during the dusk and is said to give strength and ward off all evil ( similar to Hanuman Chalisa) .
Though many other singers have rendered this , the one by Soolamangalam sisters is most famous .
Also I am posting a link to a very unique Tamil film song by them along with another pair of sister-pair female plaback singers L.R.Eashwari and L.R Anjali. This could be the ONLY film song that has two pairs of real sisters singing. I had read somewhere the 4 Mangeshkar sisters had once sung togther-dont remember which song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kkFyH5aYVI
Film Sharada-1962-Music by K.V Mahadevan -Debut Lyrics by Panju Arunachalam ( who was Kannadasan’s nephew & assistant and later became a well known film producer, writer, director and lyricist and was instrumental in giving Ilayaraja his first break)

6 AK June 7, 2025 at 2:56 PM

Sivanandam ji,
Thanks a lot for your compliments and greetings.

I am not aware if all the four Lata Mangeshkar sisters have sung any film song as a quartet, though there are some sung by three of them. Thanks also for giving so much information about Soolamangalam sisters and the song from the Tamil film Sharda (1962), sung by two sister pairs.

But you need not have stopped short of adding Kanda shasti kavacham by Soolamangalam sisters. It is a beautiful song:

7 AK June 7, 2025 at 3:19 PM

Sivanandamji,
PS. I cannot help remarking that I hear traces of Averi in this too. Have I become Averi-मय or my ignorance is taking over me?

8 Mahesh June 7, 2025 at 9:27 PM

AK ji,

Hearty Congratulations on completing a decade and a half.

The blog is indeed a great place for like-minded people.

9 AK June 7, 2025 at 10:34 PM

Mahesh,
Thanks a lot for your greetings and generous words.

10 Sivanandam June 8, 2025 at 11:15 AM

AK Ji-@7
I didn’t post the Kanda Shashti Kavacham as it is in the pure literary form of Tamil that even most of us cannot comprehend easily! In fcat the language of Thiruvalluvar’s Tirukkural is even more difficult and is almost incomprehensible without translation for a layman.
As far as the raagam it is based on, I am totally at sea when it comes to identifying raaga…except for a very few thanks to listening Sangeet Sarita program in Vividh Bharati. I checked up after seeing your post and understand Abheri ( as it is called in Carnatic music) is also part of the Raagamalika…few other raagas like Kalyani ( Eq -Yaman) , Thodi ( now Thodi in Carnatic is different from Thodi of Hindustani!!) are also there in that composition.
I am leaving the classical aspects to experts.. Incidentally , my wife sings well and she tried to teach me some basics of Sur…after few futile attempts and also hearing my voice that is so heavy and a baritone, she commented-it is better you listen to write about music ..don’t ever sing!!!!!

11 Sivanandam June 8, 2025 at 11:17 AM

* listen to and write about..

12 AK June 8, 2025 at 12:21 PM

Sivanandam ji @10,11,
My primary interest was in the raag. Some raags are especially dear to me, one is Abheri, other is Shudh Saveri and their Hindustani equivalents, or vice versa. Some singers too. Among the new ones Sanjay Subramaniam, and even TM Krishna in spite of his politics.

Thanks for your response in detail.

13 Zafar June 8, 2025 at 1:26 PM

Many congratulations to SOY for completing 15 years. It’s no mean feat to persist for so long with long-form articles on niche subjects in face of social media onslaught and diminishing attention spans. I’ve learned so much from this site and often return to it to deep-dive through its archives and find musical pearls.

One complaint though (as they say in Urdu, Khugar e hamd se thoraa saa gilaa bhi sun le 🙂 The most beloved part for me was the Song of the Year series. I was really hoping to learn more about my most cherished decade of 1950s (which, IMHO, is the golden decade of HFM in terms of melody, creativity, and variety). But I was disappointed to see that after 1955, the series started travelling backwards in time instead of moving forward and even missed two precious years, 1952 and 1954.

Now that 1940s have already been covered, I really hope that we would see in 2025 the series marching forward in the 50s, and beyond.

Once again many congrats on the anniversary to SOY and hoping to see it flourish even more in the next 15 years.

14 AK June 8, 2025 at 2:44 PM

Zafar,
Thanks a lot for your detailed comments and your very generous words. I have earlier explained the reasons for omitting 1952 and 1954 – the films of these years were in Filmfare awards. 1952 was the year when the first awards were given and because of the calendar, two films of 1954 got the awards – Taxi Driver and Nagin. And somehow no film of 1955 was given the Award. Therefore, after covering the gap years I started backwards as that was the demand from some and that was less known. Now that I have embarked on this venture, I will go back to the beginning when it all started.

Filmfare Awards is not a very rational criteria, we have often talked about the best songs in a year without reference to a marker. I now realise that the earlier members who set me on the path of vintage years are no longer with SOY, and I have to be open about the later films too. If not 2025, at least in 2026 I am willing to rethink.

Thanks a lot for your kind words again.

15 Mehfil Mein Meri June 8, 2025 at 3:41 PM

AKji,
Heartiest congratulations for completing 15 years.
Always a delight reading your posts. I’m sure the coming years would see you writing with the same enthusiasm and dedication.
May the journey continue…….

Anup
🙂

16 AK June 8, 2025 at 5:51 PM

Anup,
Thanks a lot for your greetings and good wishes.

17 Hans June 8, 2025 at 10:33 PM

AK,
Congratulations to you and other friends on the SOY anniversary. And what a narrative. Sarcasm is your strong point and you have shown that in your article talking about constitution and law. The Home Minister said about the IPC that it was made by the British for us as their slaves and they used the word Penal which means ‘dand’ and we have replaced it with ‘nyay’. Did he mean that now on instead of the usual line ‘tumhen mrityu dand diya jata hai’ the judge will say ‘tumhen mrityu nyay diya jata hai’. You talked about Bharthari and Tulsidas which means there was never any faith in the nyay system. Now it is even less.

There is this famous song ‘jungle mein mor nacha kisi ne na dekha, hum jo thodi si pee ke jhume sabne dekha’ from Madhumati. This is an indirect reference to the dual policy of the legal system which sees the powerful and the ordinary with a different lens. Look at another song ‘nani teri morni ko mor le gaye, baki jo bacha tha kale chor le gaye’. In the antara we find ‘un choron ki khub khabar li mote thanedar ne, choron ko bhi khoob nachaya jungle ki sarkaar ne’. Here the peacocks are given the punishment to do a work which they like i.e. naachana. If we look at both songs in conjunction it would mean that for mors – which means big fish – there are different standards for identification of the crime as well as the punishment.

As for our law of evidence or justice system I post here a scene from a 1977 film Alibaba Marjeena which gives a very sarcastic view of how the saboots count in law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vYOAw5Dw5s&list=PL0CaUqi81mPncCQPHQF2trJzOdIfpX81V

You presented the five beautiful heers which is a form I like very much. Thanks for that. Asa Singh Mastana was considered to be one of the best heer singers. He was given a heer by Roshan in the film Dooj Ka Chand – 1964, written by Sahir.
Lo apna jahan duniya walo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq1W4otytH0

There is another good heer adaptation by Ravi in the film Kaajal sung by Asha Bhosle.
Samjhi thi ki ye ghar mera hai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsXlUPagd5s

In the context of the case by Dagars on AR Rehman, what would have been the situation if somebody claiming as the successor of Waris Shah had filed a case against the numerous adaptations by different people.

I also support Zafar’s demand. I have been saying this since long and I think other SOYers would also be with us.

18 AK June 9, 2025 at 12:19 AM

Hans,
Thanks a lot for your greetings and your detailed comments in which you always make me think. Interesting point you make about BNS. My light-hearted comment was that our familiar markers 420, Dafa 302 are now thing of the post.

About Jungle mein more nacha kisne dekha my mind evoked a totally different message. Something like who cares whether you are a monarch in heaven. That explains craze for a sarkari naukri in some parts of the country. I know of an IPS officer in North-East preferring to be a State Police officer in home state. Or Indian Foreign Service which was considered among the top choice now ranking very low and so on.

Thanks for the two more Heers. I had not heard them earlier.

AR Rahman-Dagar Brothers controversy I am not sure about the correctness of Delhi High Court’s interim judgement. That is why I said it raises many questions and we are going to see a long legal battle ahead.

About covering 50’s music onwards I have heard you and Zafar earlier. Let us wait for 2026.

19 N Venkataraman June 9, 2025 at 7:40 PM

Akji,
15 years of a SoY is by any measure a significant milestone. My heartiest congratulations. You have marked this occasion with various layers of interest, current affairs marking a new trend, and a brief overview and reflection on last year’s journey of SoY. It was a good read. Thanks

Enjoyed the Heers presented by you. I would like to share a Bengali song based on the Punjabi folk (Heer). Hemant Kumar recorded it in 1949. Hiren Bose penned the lyrics and Anupam Ghatak composed the tune. The record came out in 1949.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvVoUtsZ4hE

As regards the song ‘Veera Raja Veera’ from Ponniyan Selvan, as you have said, it raises the pertinent question- “When it comes to using classical ragas and tunes in film songs, when does inspiration turn into blatant ‘copying’?” Nevertheless, the song is indeed good as is evident from its huge popularity. The serialized mega novel, was set in 10th century, when (I believe) Carnatic music in its present form was not in vogue. Due to non-availability of (marketable) music prevalent during this period, ARR might have resorted to the use of this Dhrupad composition, albeit without appropriate credit. When it comes to Karaar oi lauho kapaat, I tend to go with the views of your (and mine too) Bengali friends. In both the cases some research should have been done prior to using the tune and song respectively.

The composition “Shiva Shiva Shiva” in Raag Adana reminds me of another Dhrupad bandish, “Shankara Girijapati” and a Sanskrit Stotra, “Bho Sambho, Shiva Sambho” written by a South Indian saint Swami Dayanand Saraswati (1930-2015). I take the liberty of presenting both of them here.

Shankara Girijapati Parvati Patiswara in Raag Malkauns, by Wasifuddin Dagar (Vocal) Bahauddin Dagar (Rudra Veena)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re6WT5EUm_w

Bho Sambho, Shiva Sambho in Carnatic Raag Revati, rendered by Sudha Raghunathan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOsP-m_ebuY

I am aware Raag Abheri/Bhimpasi is quite close to your heart. Here I recollect, in the 10th anniversary post, you shared a song “Kandan Karunei puriyum vadivel” composed in Bhimpalsi, sung by Madurai Mani Iyer, with an interesting story send to you by S Goplakrishnan. Carried away by the song, “Beena madhur madhur kachhu bol”, Madurai Mani Iyer asked his poet friend Guhan to compose a similar song which led to the birth of this song. In the comment section, we three – Malayadaji, yourself and me – got engaged in yet another interesting discussion on Abheri/Bhimpalasi.

I join Hansji and Zafarji in wishing SoY and its readers many more years of fruitful blogging. And my heartfelt greeting to all the regular members of SoY.

Thank you once again Akji.

20 AK June 9, 2025 at 11:09 PM

Venkataramanji,
Thanks a lot for your greetings and also thanks for your detailed comments. You always add substantive information in your posts.

Current affairs always intersects with politics which I have been consciously avoiding. But this time lots of things were happening which I could not avoid. For one, Stampede that killed 11 persons, for a glimpse of a cricket star!

I liked Hemant Kumar’s Heer in Bangla. That expands my awareness.

Between two instances of AR Rahman landing in controversy, in one Karar oi lauho kapaat he had taken the family’s sort of permission. After expressing their displeasure they sort of backed off. But you seem to be minimising the said infringement in Shiva shiva shiva; the legal case has taken a more serious turn. This enters a gray area.

Thanks also for the pieces in Carnatic Raaga.

21 Rahul Bhagwanrao Muli June 10, 2025 at 9:23 AM

AK ji
Congratulations on completing 15 years of SOY.
In a comment above you have mentioned about the absence of SOY veterans. Over such a long span it is bound to happen but the blog continues to draw new readers with each new article.
I think there is no film song in which all Mangeshkar sisters have lent their voices but there is a marathi (NFS) where all Mangeshkar siblings (including Pt. Hridaynath but excluding Asha) have.
It is a poem written by Swatantrya veer Savarkar (who the current contender loves to hate for unknown reasons).
As an ardent fan of SOY, I wish the blog continues to enlighten us for many more years.

22 Ravindra Kelkar June 10, 2025 at 1:59 PM

AK Ji!
Great achievement! Congratulations. Reading your post felt like reading a ‘Sunday Newspaper Column’ reviewing the year gone by, but having links to music. Take this comment in a light hearted manner.

23 Deepak Verma June 10, 2025 at 2:28 PM

Congratulations on the 15th anniversary of SOY. A decade and half of its existence is testimony of the persistence ,commitment and intensity of interest of the blogger as well as the support, appreciation and contributions of its followers.
I’ve just been introduced to the blog.Going by the range and in-depth quality of its content, I have no doubt that I have begun on an exciting journey!

Coming to this anniversary blog ,the take on the BNS in the context of films is quite interesting! In a lighter vein, the lawmakers could have permitted use of articles , sections of the IPC for their dramatic use in films as an exception!
Shamshad Begum song is quite hilarious. ‘Jhoothi degree’ was an issue even then!

I think comments on the current affairs is in order. Even though the blog is dedicated to music, it can’t be a just a स्वान्तः सुखाय activity. Besides the recent events have been too impactful, close and immediate.The conflict with our incorrigible neighbour ,following a dastardly terrorist action, re- established that in a crisis, our armed forces, political leaderships and the people at large are capable of standing up as a Nation, despite our differences and diversity. Certain events and statements did leave a bad taste in the mouth , though. Globally, the one who claimed to have brokered peace between two nuclear nations , continued to ‘nuke’ the world with his tariff and other ‘warheads’ causing mayhem in the world economies.The position of his disrupter buddy has been pithily captured in an Amul ad today “ Whatever goes up Musk come down”!

Listening to a Heer tune by Hemant Kumar is quite a delightful experience. I’m reminded of an interview by Puranchand Wadali of the famed Wadali brothers, in which he relates a story. Heer says “ Ranjha dhoodiayan main chali. Ranjha miliya naahin. Mainu Rab miliya, par Rab Ranjha varga naahin”. Heer by Wadali brothers is available on YouTube.
Plagiarism indeed cannot be considered desirable. But there is a flip side too. The controversy draws our attention and we get to watch/listen to the original work!
Thanks ! Look forward to the next blog.

24 Ashok Kumar Tyagi June 10, 2025 at 4:24 PM

AK ji,
Heartiest congratulations on completion of 15 wonderful years of SoY. This is my favourite blog. Sorry I remained out of contact due to myself being busy concerning some health issues in the families of my brother and sister.

The pertinent remarks on our leaders, legal/political situation made by you above and comments by SoY readers are very apt and put forward in an amusing way. Thanks.
Wishing you all a very special 16th year.

25 AK June 10, 2025 at 4:40 PM

Mr Muli @21,
Thanks a lot for your greetings. About Mangeshkar siblings thanks a lot for giving additional information from Marathi music.

The current contender perhaps you mean the prince. I feel sad for his desperation. Maharashtra was one battle ground where he has to fight the rigging also. He is a brave man, he would continue to hate Veer Savarkar.

26 AK June 10, 2025 at 4:41 PM

Mr Kelkar @22,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation.

27 AK June 10, 2025 at 5:15 PM

Vermaji @23,
Welcome to Songs Of Yore, and thanks a lot for your detailed comments. Your first comment on the blog shows your range of interests. Hemant Kumar’s song from Anarkali is too well-known. Mentioning it in the context may be a revelation, as is his Bangla Heer NFS.

Wadali’s Heer is perfect. Your comment about plagiarism is very interesting but not when it makes you poorer by Rs. 2 cr.

28 AK June 10, 2025 at 5:18 PM

Tyagiji,
Thanks a lot for your greetings and gracious words. Hope you are able to resume your regular participation.

29 Hans June 10, 2025 at 9:43 PM

AK, @ 18
Both of the songs I mentioned were written by Shailendra whose lyrics have a lot of depth and they can be interpreted in more than one way. There was this JW-Rafi song ‘main bambai ka babu’ in Naya Daur which had the antara ‘kaam ki baat bata di maine kamedy gaana ga ke’. This says it all. JW comedy songs in those had important messages in them as they were written by quality lyricists. That was one of the reasons they got so popular.

30 Hans June 10, 2025 at 10:29 PM

Venkataramanji,
Thanks for the bengali heer. Hemant Kumar sang it beautifully. The mukhda is composed in heer style but antara is slightly different. It was perhaps due to lyrics. Looked nice that Bengali composers knew about heer which even not many Panjabi composers had used in films.

31 Anita June 11, 2025 at 8:38 PM

AK ji,
Congratulations on achieving this awesome feat! You are an inspiration for bloggers like me. Coming up with something new and different every fortnight is by no means easy.

Your post has touched on lots of issues….

Somehow, I do not understand how so many people (they are called fans but I do not understand the term at all) have the kind of time and enthusiasm to crowd a stadium just to see their so-called stars!! I am sure there are better ways and places to spend one’s time and money. Hope this turns out to be an eyeopener for all the fans!!

For the part on 420 and how the law is for the mighty, I feel the song dil ka haal sune dilwala would also be apt.

Best Wishes
Anita

32 Roma Prakash June 11, 2025 at 9:19 PM

https://youtu.be/_c27HIxt9LU?feature=shared. Love this song though not a Heer.

33 AK June 12, 2025 at 4:49 PM

Anita @31,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation and kind words. I couldn’t agree with you more on ‘fans’. That is why you must have noticed my first anger was towards ‘collective madness’, and, of course, you can’t but feel angry at the mighty who are faultless, and who can suspend officers left and right and file FIRs against others.

On 420 and Dil ka haal sune dilwala you are spot on.

34 AK June 12, 2025 at 4:59 PM

Roma Prakash @32,
Thanks a lot for adding this full song. You must have noticed it starts with a perfect Heer tune and segues in the song. This is my favourite song. Rafi has sung at least two more songs on this tune. The first was from Safar (1946), composed by C Ramchandra: Kah ke bhi na aaye tum, ab chhipne lagey taarey, and the second should be more well-known from Naya Daur (1957): composed by OP Nayyar: Dil de ke daga denge.

35 Dr Pradeep K Shetty June 14, 2025 at 1:52 PM

Congratulations on another milestone. Many more to cross in the coming years.

Soolamangalam Rajalakshmi has sung many beautiful Kannada songs from the 50s to 70s. She was an integral part of B R Pantulu ‘s Padmini Pictures. There is a unique record of B R Pantulu having T G Lingappa as the composer for all the Kannada movies he produced and directed ( he had other composers for his Tamil,Telegu, Hindi movies in addition to TGL.

One of the most popular evergreen song of this combination is …

Sevantige chendinantha muddu koli
ಸೇವಂತಿಗೆ ಚೆಂಡಿನಂತ ಮುದ್ದು ಕೋಳಿ…

CHINNADA GOMBE, 1964.
ಚಿನ್ನದ ಗೊಂಬೆ.

Incidentally, the last of the 4 Kannada movies Jayalalithaa starred in.

36 S Joseph June 14, 2025 at 2:28 PM

To be on top for 15 years with such a large fan following , despite the tough competition , is great. Congratulations ! May SOY keep growing . 32 posts in the 15th year is remarkable . Add to that the enlightening discussions here that give so much.

Rafi centenary celebrations had to close on 24/12/24. Centenary year or not , tributes to Rafi would continue forever .

Listening to the Dagar and Rehman tunes , even a layman like me would appreciate the HC decision .

@13,@17 ; I always thought SOY deals with the HFM golden era (1950-’70) . Therefore I would support any proposal to prioritise topics/discussions pertaining to the period 1950 – ’70 .

37 Arunkumar Deshmukh June 14, 2025 at 5:33 PM

AK ji,

Heartiest Congratulations on the completion of 15 musical years of SOY.
I am happy to see its progress. I have been associated with this Blog since more than 10 years or so.
During this period I enjoyed different angles of Hindi films and a variety of songs.
This is undoubtedly one of the most popular Blogs on the internet, looking at the visitors and the contributors from various fields and likings.
I am happy that I am a member of the SOY Team.
Well done and all the best for the future.
-AD

38 AK June 14, 2025 at 5:35 PM

Dr Shetty,
Thanks a lot for enlightening me on Shoolmangalam Rajalakshmi. I thought they were famous as classical singers. Here is the link of your song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW-tJH9l6Vc&list=RDMW-tJH9l6Vc&start_radio=1

39 AK June 14, 2025 at 5:41 PM

Mr S Joseph,
Thanks a lot for your greetings and your generous words.

Copyright in classical songs is a very complex issue. The traditional bandishes typically come down from generations and often the writer is not known. Some get associated with a particular raag, and everyone starts singing it. I am not aware if the Dagars are the original creators of ‘Shiva Shiva Shiva’. AR Rahman would go to any extent to clear his name. I believe there would be a long legal battle.

40 AK June 14, 2025 at 5:44 PM

Arunji,
Thanks a lot for your greetings and kind words. We are equally proud that you are associated with this blog. You are an inspiration for many of us.

41 Dr Pradeep K Shetty June 16, 2025 at 4:43 PM

KHOOBSURAT

Saare niyam tod do
Niyam pe chalna chod do…

Kayda tod ke socho ek din…
This has the unusual pair of Rekha and Sapan Chakraborty as the singers.
RDB takes a line from Papa ‘s
Oopar gagan vishal..
in the song!

42 Dr Pradeep K Shetty June 16, 2025 at 5:20 PM

SAMAJ KO BADAL DALO.

Dharti Maa ka shaan hamara lal nishan

Desh ka sanvidhan desh ka maan hai…

I can’t think of another song with the word sanvidhan in it.

43 AK June 17, 2025 at 12:21 PM

Dr Shetty @41,
What a connection. Nice one. This made me remember the sweet little film in which everyone plays his part to perfection. Shashikala’s coming out was a discovery.

@42,
Wow, so you could ferret out a Samvidhan song too. However, I could not find that line in the song. Pyara lal nishan, but that word was missing. It is a pronounced political song. Very pro-left, union, laal nishan makes its leaning clear. Balraj Sahni-Ajay Sahni, aka Parikshit Sahni must have beel leftist activists.

44 Ashok M Vaishnav June 18, 2025 at 3:27 PM

Heartiest congratulations for achieving the milestone of completing 15 years of blogging journey.

SoY has established several benchmarks in this journey.

Even more importantly, it has brought around a group of several readers who also have deep interest in the film songs of this period.

I remain one of SoY’s biggest beneficiary, through reading the posts, participating therein with the articles and gaining the benefit of knowledge of SoY’s readership participants.

45 AK June 18, 2025 at 5:13 PM

Ashokji,
Thanks a lot for your good wishes and kind words. You have been a pilar of SOY.

46 Malyada June 23, 2025 at 3:32 PM

Dear AK Ji,

Many, many congratulations on completing 15 glorious years of blogging on one of the most soul-satisfying topics of all – old hindi film songs. What a great discovery your blog has been for me, and through it, countless gems which have given so much succour and pleasure in these mad, rushed times. SOY is like a time-hole where I spent countless hours whenever I get the time to go down it.

I can see you also have been bitten by the Abheri/Devagandhari question – multiple people have been on the same boat. I still haven’t gotten the grasp of it. A very detailed and technical explanation is here along with sample vocals:
https://sunson.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/the-abheri-conundrum/

A one note difference (mostly credited to Musiri Subramania Iyer) changes the older Abheri (Veenabheri) to Karnataka Devagandhari (also called new Abheri). Shudhha Dhaivatam D1 in the former to ChatuSruti Dhaivatam D2 in the latter. Now which one is Bhimpalasi – well, I am still stumped on that question. Maybe, this can throw some light:
https://www.parrikar.org/hindustani/bhimpalasi/#jump

Here is the great master singing the timeless song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mpsxzxzl10

Forever grateful to SOY for introducing me to the Bhimpalasi classic – Bina Madhur Madhur Kachhu bol, if I remember correctly, in one of your anniversary celebration blogs.

Here’s wishing you many more years of active blogging and good health. Waiting eagerly for you to start moving beyond 1955 towards the 60s.

47 AK June 23, 2025 at 7:06 PM

Malyada,
Thanks a lot for your greetings, your generous words and very enlightening comments. I am happy to know that Abheri-Devgandhari-Karnataka Devgandhari has intrigued scholars too, and thanks for confirming my conjecture.

You are right; I had mentioned Beena madhur madhur kachhu bol in the 9th Anniversary Post. That was in the context of a story sent to me by S Gopalakrishnan:

“Madurai Mani Iyer (1912-1968) once heard the Hindi film song ‘Beena madhur madhur kachhu bol‘ from the 1943 Vijay Bhatt film ‘Ram Rajya’. The song set in the Raga Bhimpalasi, composed by Shankar Rao Vyas, was sung by Saraswati Rane, daughter of Ustad Abdul Karim Khan of the Kirana Gharana. Mani Iyer, the Carnatic maestro, was totally carried away by the song, and wished to have a similar composition in Tamil for his concerts and requested his poet-friend Guhan. Hence the famous Tamil composition ‘Kandan karunai puriyum vadivel‘ in Raga Abheri (Bhimpalasi) was born, and Mani Iyer made it immortal during his last one year in life and music. (Source: Charukesi, The Hindu, November 25, 2010)”

I have heard many voices for Review of Post-1955 songs too. I am not stone-deaf, yet!

48 RSR September 17, 2025 at 5:05 PM

Congratulations, Sir. ..Recently, thanks to the web and incredible Tommydan55, an american from Hawai, i had the good fortune to view and cherish about 40 Bengali filmx of 1951 -1970 period…Ofcourse, I had seen almost all the internationally famous films of Sathyaji Ray, Mrinal Sen, Tapan Sinha, long back in my college days in 1962 in Madras without following the language.
.
But the fine films of Uttam Kumar, Suchitra Sen , Soumithra Chatterji, Supriya Chowdri are no less grand.
..200 Old Indian Films Owe Their Preservation to A Retired Fisherman in Hawaii.
https://thebetterindia.com/282184/american-fisherman-restores-old-rare-indian-classic-movies-on-youtube/
.
…Tommydan55 had provided english subtitles to many of them, assisted by Anu Warrior and others. He has the technical expertise in restoring old films. It led me to create an exclusive web site for such nice films.
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https://sites.google.com/view/bengali-films/home.

Saath pake bandha, was one such great film starring Soumitra Chatterjee and SUCHITRA SEN..

https://youtu.be/lVfM367v8Hs?si=upJwbI88-T86al0h
.
. Unfortunately, there are no english subtitles. I request Sri.Venkataramanji of this forum to provide, english captiins.
To make the job easier, there is a very fast google transxript extractor,
which gives bengali transcript.
I tries google bengali to English translator, but it seemed to be a jumble requiring editing.
May I suggest that SOY extend its reach beyond hindi alone and bring to light gems of Bengali cenema of 1951-1965?kindly pass on this request to Sri.Venkataraman. He can do a series on stars like Suchitra, Supriya, Uttam, Bikash Ray, Soumithra, Chabbi Biswas, and many more dazzling angels of yore of Bengali fikms of golden era.
Thank you.

49 Harikrishnan, M. October 23, 2025 at 6:12 PM

I like listening to the Hindi film songs of the 1950s in particular, also to some of the earlier and later decades, when I was a boy before becoming a college student and getting a job. A period of about 15 years.
I got to know of “Songs of Yore” as a website recently and greatly admire what I can read of it. I look forward to more.

50 AK October 24, 2025 at 7:26 AM

M Harikrishna,
Thanks a lot for your gracious words. It is always gratifying to come across silent admirers of SOY. I wish you could spare some more time to read through the old posts and comments, and interact with us.

51 AK October 24, 2025 at 12:03 PM

RSR @48,
I am sorry I am coming to your comment after a good gap. But such a substantial comment I just couldn’t pass on. First, thanks a lot for your nice words.

I am aware of Tom Daniels’s work towards restoration of our films, and Anu Warrior’s sub-titling. I am not aware if N Venkataraman has that kind of time and inclination for doing this work. He must have read your comment. You can also contact him directly.

I should also thank you for some more introduction of Tommy33. A great work he is doing.

52 Harikrishnan, M. October 24, 2025 at 2:43 PM

Respected AK,
Thanks a lot for your prompt reply. I admit having been a silent admirer of SoY. Couldn’t quite put together what it takes to make a more solid contribution !
A little more about myself. My father was from Chennai, and my mother, a Maharashtrian, was from Bangalore. While I know some Tamil and a little Marathi, I feel comfortable in English. My Hindi is just about passable. I went to school in Bangalore, where I live now.
I remember seeing “Khazanchi” as a boy, maybe “Sikandar” and a few others.
My particular affection for songs in Hindi films began in the ‘40s and remained an important part of life for over 20 years.
What is most endearing about SoY are the opinions brought out in the letters to you and your distinctive blend of generosity and restraint in replying.
Great.
Not nice, I know, to point out a correction.
My name is Harikrishnan, not Harikrishna, the latter common in Karnataka.
Hope you don’t mind.
I am quite used to being named Hari.
Let me read more of SoY to know enough to say more that can find a place in this most charming website.

53 AK October 24, 2025 at 6:29 PM

Mr Harikrishnan,
I think I must apologise first for not noticing the last ‘n’ in your name. I am surprised to see such lack of brain-eyes co-ordination in myself, and perhaps others too.

Nice to know more about you. I have been lucky to make friends with so many people who know so much more than me.

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